Fev Up for Trade - Nominates Saints

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Wed 07 Oct 2009 12:05pm

If Lovett, or Everitt free up Goddard to play forward, that would probably also give us the 2-3 goals extra per game that Fev might bring. And for a lot less baggage, trade cost and dollars.
I'd be happy to get Fev, but I'd also be extremely pumped to see BJ doing a James Hird across half forward.

samoht · Post: # 843312Post **samoht** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 12:14pm

AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:If Lovett, or Everitt free up Goddard to play forward, that would probably also give us the 2-3 goals extra per game that Fev might bring. And for a lot less baggage, trade cost and dollars.
I'd be happy to get Fev, but I'd also be extremely pumped to see BJ doing a James Hird across half forward.

Our forward line above all needs a quick medium sized goal kicker.
Neither Goddard or Fev for that matter are medium sized - they are both big bodied.
- but in Fev's case he would add 40 goals/year if he played FF instead of Kosi, so Fev will be replacing another less effective big bodied FF and adding 40 goals plus /year.

I still would prefer to forget Fev and keep Kosi at FF if it means we could add instead a quick medium sized half forward flanker/goal kicker - we certainly don't need a third big bodied player in Goddard in our forward line.

BelfastSaint · Wed 07 Oct 2009 12:14pm

No media mention or rumours for days re Fev to the Saints ......
Much as I would love to have him I dont think we are even in the running ...

SaintWodonga · Wed 07 Oct 2009 12:19pm

Why can't we use Lynch as our medium forward? Or give Heyne a go?

samoht · Post: # 843318Post **samoht** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 12:30pm

SaintWodonga wrote:Why can't we use Lynch as our medium forward? Or give Heyne a go?

Actually they are probably as good as anyone else we have already tried and has failed at the moment - but they would still obviously need to develop.

But anyway is there a good proven mid sized (around 188 cm/85 kg) goal kicker/forward available in the trades at the moment ?

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Wed 07 Oct 2009 12:39pm

samoht wrote:
AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:If Lovett, or Everitt free up Goddard to play forward, that would probably also give us the 2-3 goals extra per game that Fev might bring. And for a lot less baggage, trade cost and dollars.
I'd be happy to get Fev, but I'd also be extremely pumped to see BJ doing a James Hird across half forward.
Our forward line above all needs a quick medium sized goal kicker.
Neither Goddard or Fev for that matter are medium sized - they are both big bodied.
- but in Fev's case he would add 40 goals/year if he played FF instead of Kosi, so Fev will be replacing another less effective big bodied FF and adding 40 goals plus /year.

I still would prefer to forget Fev and keep Kosi at FF if it means we could add instead a quick medium sized half forward flanker/goal kicker - we certainly don't need a third big bodied player in Goddard in our forward line.

So Goddard is small enough to play in the midfield, yet too "big bodied" to play in the forward line? You've got to be kidding! Whatever size he is, he would dominate up there, like he does everywhere else and like he did against West Coast, in the first quarter, early in the year. We already have 3 "smalls" up there, in Milne, Schneider and Mini, so Goddard would fit in beuutifully. Which would be why, on 3AW the other day, Ross was quoted as saying he'd preferably like to "play BJ forward". Our president was also quoted after the GF as saying that drafting "another tall forward was our priority", so the club don't seem to agree with what you're saying either (not that I consider BJ to be a "genuine tall forward").

samoht · Post: # 843331Post **samoht** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 12:45pm

Goddard is not going to bring the right balance with both Kosi and Riewoldt operating - we'll have 3 big bodies and 2 or 3 smalls (McQualter, Schneider and Milne)- where are our quick medium sized players ?

We need to add 1 or 2 good medium sized forwards - not big bodies for balance and we need to lose one or 2 smalls.
- we clearly have enough big bodies at the moment.

It's to do with balance and harmony.

eppo67 · Post: # 843339Post **eppo67** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 12:58pm

What about Lockyer from Collingwood for BAll as the Mid size Fwd we seem to all want.

mustangjack · Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:08pm

eppo67 wrote:What about Lockyer from Collingwood for BAll as the Mid size Fwd we seem to all want.

Ihope your joking

Animal Enclosure · Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:13pm

mustangjack wrote:
eppo67 wrote:What about Lockyer from Collingwood for BAll as the Mid size Fwd we seem to all want.
Ihope your joking

Lockyer aint mid sized, he's a midget.

Jack Anthony is mid sized.

samoht · Post: # 843349Post **samoht** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:14pm

mustangjack wrote:
eppo67 wrote:What about Lockyer from Collingwood for BAll as the Mid size Fwd we seem to all want.
Ihope your joking

Lockyer would be another small - solid little prig but he's not really midsized.

saint66au · Post: # 843350Post **saint66au** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:14pm

Hilarious

A bloke who kicked 99 goals in 07 and won the Coleman medal last year, is up for trade...and noone wants him!!!!!!

Whats that say about ya Fev ??????

degruch · Post: # 843352Post **degruch** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:16pm

Animal Enclosure wrote:
mustangjack wrote:
eppo67 wrote:What about Lockyer from Collingwood for BAll as the Mid size Fwd we seem to all want.
Ihope your joking
Lockyer aint mid sized, he's a midget.

Jack Anthony is mid sized.

Either way, they'd be seen as club legends and untouchable...the only way in would be if we went for one of their lesser lights. Any of value?

Thinline · Post: # 843353Post **Thinline** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:16pm

eppo67 wrote:What about Lockyer from Collingwood for BAll as the Mid size Fwd we seem to all want.

If that wet little poonce Lockyer came anywhere near Moorabbin I would cry for years.

Animal Enclosure · Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:16pm

saint66au wrote:Hilarious

A bloke who kicked 99 goals in 07 and won the Coleman medal last year, is up for trade...and noone wants him!!!!!!

Whats that say about ya Fev ??????

I think there's a few clubs that are holding off until Friday & hope they get him in a fire sale.

eppo67 · Post: # 843366Post **eppo67** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:29pm

Sorry guys just a thought! Your right on second thoughts he is too small.

What about Anthony then.

lefty · Post: # 843391Post **lefty** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:52pm

I wouldnt mind fev (as long as he doesn't be an idiot off the field).

I guess Gardiner had a similar/poor background and turned it around.

You'd have Fev at FF, then Kosi and Roo on the 50m arch each side of the oval, giving 2 options rather than always to Roo option.

Bardon Saint · Wed 07 Oct 2009 2:48pm

lefty wrote:I wouldnt mind fev (as long as he doesn't be an idiot off the field).

I guess Gardiner had a similar/poor background and turned it around.

You'd have Fev at FF, then Kosi and Roo on the 50m arch each side of the oval, giving 2 options rather than always to Roo option.

Or even Roo on a wing like Matt Richardson. Push forward at times and kick a goal or two. Would be bloody hard to match up on. He has the tank to do it.

SainterK · Post: # 843566Post **SainterK** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 3:33pm

saint66au wrote:Hilarious

A bloke who kicked 99 goals in 07 and won the Coleman medal last year, is up for trade...and noone wants him!!!!!!

Whats that say about ya Fev ??????

It says an awful lot IMO

saint75 · Post: # 843664Post **saint75** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 4:40pm

SainterK wrote:
saint66au wrote:Hilarious

A bloke who kicked 99 goals in 07 and won the Coleman medal last year, is up for trade...and noone wants him!!!!!!

Whats that say about ya Fev ??????
It says an awful lot IMO

It is not so much what he is done, but it is what is required to get the deal done. No one wants to give away a first round pick, a player and THEN be stuck with his massive contract salary. Not for a person of his age and his antic. Was OK for Carlton as he would be shifted to their Veterans list and half of his salary not be counted towards their salary cap in the next year. No other club has that luxury.

Will be interesting to see what happens by the close of business Friday. Still think there are many twists and turns to come with this deal an a few others yet....

Milton66 · Post: # 843665Post **Milton66** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 4:40pm

I'd say his asking price would have a lot to do with it. MAke him availabe for $300k and see what happens.

saint75 · Post: # 843669Post **saint75** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 4:45pm

Milton66 wrote:I'd say his asking price would have a lot to do with it. MAke him availabe for $300k and see what happens.

Doesn't worry Fev. Carlton or his new club will pay him what his contract states. It is up to Carlton and another club to come to terms over who gets stuck with the bill. Granted, Fev could take less and renegotiate a lesser contract, but would you in his position? He is currently guaranteed that money. He wouldn't care less who ends up paying it.

BaysideSaint · Wed 07 Oct 2009 4:47pm

mate, it aint the asking price.
like i have been saying all along:
carlton have had three (3) FAIR DINKUM trades put in front of them and in this order: jolly, davis and ball.
what carlton decide to do is up to carlton.

SainterK · Post: # 843676Post **SainterK** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 4:52pm

Is everyone confident that Ross Lyon is the kind of character that would be swayed by the sudden availability of Fev come trade week? He would have been quite methodical in what we needed, and I will be surprised he if suddenly abandons plans and targets Fev.

saint75 · Post: # 843684Post **saint75** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 4:58pm

SainterK wrote:Is everyone confident that Ross Lyon is the kind of character that would be swayed by the sudden availability of Fev come trade week? He would have been quite methodical in what we needed, and I will be surprised he if suddenly abandons plans and targets Fev.

This thread is purely based on speculation. No one (or not that I have read so far) is questioning Ross. If Ross wants Fev, he will go after him. If he doesn't see him in his plans, he won't.

I personally believe that Fev would be a great addition but if Ross believes we don't need him, I htrust his judgement 100%. He hasn't let us down so far and I don't believe he will.