Saints officially in the hunt for Lovett, offer 3 yr deal!

hotdish · Post: # 841785Post **hotdish** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 12:35am

Lovett met with a St Kilda delegation of coach Ross Lyon, captain Nick Riewoldt and vice captain Lenny Hayes on Friday to attempt to convince him his best chance of playing in a premiership was to join this year's runners-up...

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews ... ntentSwap1

flyingwhale18 · Tue 06 Oct 2009 12:35am

after all the shattering news today, this is a good sign.

thirty-seven!? · Tue 06 Oct 2009 12:39am

From the same article:

"To secure a trade for him to go to Moorabbin, the Saints are likely to have to part with their first draft pick (16) in a deal that may incorporate defender Matt Maguire heading to Windy Hill for the Bombers' second-round draft pick.

The prospects for that deal were complicated by suggestions late yesterday that the Saints retained interest in disenchanted Bulldog Andrejs Everitt. With Carlton prepared to offer its second-round pick (26) and the Dogs insisting on a pick under 20 it would appear the Saints might need to give up their first-round pick - or a player - to do the deal."

If the first trade hypothetically took place, we could actually trump Carlton (for Everitt's) services with the second pick ontraded by Essendon!

Which = Pick 16 + Goose = Lovett & Everitt!!

And that hasnt even had anything to do with the Ball trade!!

battye · Post: # 841793Post **battye** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 12:43am

Not so keen on Maguire leaving. With Hudghton retiring I would have thought Maguire had become a required player. We don't have any matured big bodied backmen in reserve.

Saint Bev · Post: # 841794Post **Saint Bev** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 12:45am

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, not Goose as well. I hate trade week

SaintDebi · Post: # 841799Post **SaintDebi** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 12:48am

Saint Bev wrote:Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, not Goose as well. I hate trade week

Me too. Its like shopping around your children.

savatage · Post: # 841800Post **savatage** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 12:51am

Very happy with this news.

SainterK · Post: # 841804Post **SainterK** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 12:54am

Hmm, not sold on the Lovett idea....I can however appreciate the fact when we play the bombers, that I would rather him in our colours!

Beej · Post: # 841809Post **Beej** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 1:02am

SainterK wrote:Hmm, not sold on the Lovett idea....I can however appreciate the fact when we play the bombers, that I would rather him in our colours!

At Essendon Lovett is always the first tagged.

At St Kilda he'll have much, much more freedom.

His work-rate is the only question mark.

Pace to burn, beautiful skills, loves a goal and is not averse to a good run-down from behind either.

Cats were very keen last season.

ausfatcat · Post: # 841811Post **ausfatcat** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 1:05am

Would be perfect for the saints

If he was a couple of years younger imo

Batnoe · Post: # 841816Post **Batnoe** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 1:09am

If we could somehow get Lovett and Everitt i will be happy.

So if we can get Lovett and their 2nd round for Maguire and first round i will be happy

Then on trade our second to Bulldogs for Everitt

I then hope we can get something for Luke Ball and wouldnt have dont too badly

However, if we then trade our 2 2nd rounders to Fev would be even better, but losing Maguire and gaining Everitt will be ok as they are both defenders

Munga · Post: # 841822Post **Munga** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 1:13am

ausfatcat wrote:Would be perfect for the saints

If he was a couple of years younger imo

I had to check, he's turning 27 next month. I just hope his hammies don't start going 'twang'

Batnoe · Post: # 841829Post **Batnoe** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 1:34am

gets the ball and is quick

worth the pick IMO

Stats

Round 1 Port Adelaide 9 13 6 4 0 6 2 2 1 0 91.0 - disposals 22
Round 2 Fremantle 11 6 6 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 45.0 - 17
Round 3 Carlton 13 8 1 5 0 4 1 4 0 1 76.0 -21
Round 4 North Melbourne 9 6 8 1 0 4 1 1 1 2 64.0 - 15
Round 5 Collingwood 14 3 13 5 0 2 1 0 2 1 85.0 -17
Round 6 Brisbane 14 11 6 3 0 3 1 0 1 0 92.0 -25
Round 7 Hawthorn 10 8 8 0 0 1 2 1 1 2 57.0 -18
Round 8 St. Kilda 15 10 0 3 0 4 1 0 0 0 91.0 - 25
Round 9 Richmond 14 9 13 6 0 3 2 1 2 1 102.0 -23
Round 10 Geelong 10 11 6 3 0 3 0 1 1 0 76.0 -21
Round 11 Adelaide 23 8 7 3 0 3 2 1 1 1 112.0 -31
Round 12 Melbourne 14 8 0 1 0 4 0 0 0 0 77.0 -22
Round 13 Carlton 12 7 19 5 0 2 2 1 3 1 91.0 -19
Round 14 Collingwood 18 6 6 4 0 2 1 1 1 0 90.0 -24
Round 15 Sydney 21 8 1 5 0 1 1 0 0 1 100.0 -29
Round 16 Western Bulldogs 21 6 1 5 0 0 1 0 0 1 92.0-27
Round 17 Richmond 13 6 12 5 0 5 2 2 2 0 94.0 -19
Round 18 West Coast 8 4 0 2 0 4 0 0 0 0 54.0 -12
Round 20 St. Kilda 17 5 9 6 0 2 0 0 1 3 96.0 -22
Round 21 Fremantle 12 11 2 5 0 0 1 0 0 2 76.0 -23
Round 22 Hawthorn 4 7 12 1 0 2 1 0 2 0 50.0 -12
2009 Average: 13.4 7.7 3.4 0.0 2.6 1.0 0.8 1.0 0.8 81.5

Lowest possessions 12

Averages 1 goal a game and .8 behinds so a midfielder that averages 2 shots at goal a game is not bad for a stkilda mid

over 2 tackles a game and deadly quick

True Blue Sainter · Tue 06 Oct 2009 1:40am

Lovett is a player who would fit in very well here. We need a bit of dash down a wing...

C: Lovett Hayes Gram
R: Gardiner Dal Monty

BJ (HFF) and Armo (bench) also able to rotate through regularly!

mick13 · Post: # 841834Post **mick13** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 1:44am

Get it done St Kilda.

Bring Lynchy and Armo into the team next season. And thats all our holes covered...

Batnoe · Post: # 841835Post **Batnoe** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 1:50am

Does anyone have his efficiency rate at hard ball gets?

i seem to recall that players like Lovett make a player like Jay Neagle look good as they can can pin point a pass

mad saint guy · Tue 06 Oct 2009 1:51am

B: Gilbert, Dawson, Baker
HB: Gram, Blake, S.Fisher
C: Montagna, Hayes, Lovett
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, McQualter
F: Lynch, Koschitzke, Milne

Foll: Gardiner, Goddard, Dal Santo
Int: Armitage, Jones, King, Ray

Res: R.Clarke, Geary, Steven, McEvoy, Gwilt

I like it

Armoooo · Post: # 841840Post **Armoooo** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 2:06am

MAKE IT HAPPEN!!

Although as far as I'm aware though Essendon aren't all that interested in Maguire...

SydneySainter · Tue 06 Oct 2009 2:52am

battye wrote:Not so keen on Maguire leaving. With Hudghton retiring I would have thought Maguire had become a required player. We don't have any matured big bodied backmen in reserve.

Might be time for Colm Begley to take his shot!

st_Trav_ofWA · Tue 06 Oct 2009 2:55am

SydneySainter wrote:
battye wrote:Not so keen on Maguire leaving. With Hudghton retiring I would have thought Maguire had become a required player. We don't have any matured big bodied backmen in reserve.
Might be time for Colm Begley to take his shot!

begley is usless !!! i reckon he will be delisted !!!

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Tue 06 Oct 2009 2:58am

Glad to see, as we could so do with someone with Lovett's blistering speed and goalkicking abilities. He could make a hell of a difference to us. If we were to get him and their 2nd round pick, for our first and Goose, I reckon we'd jump at that. Especially if the Ball trade also happened. We'd need to get someone like Everitt, though, I imagine, if Goose left.
If Hawthorn are only prepared to offer their no.9 pick for Burgoyne, though, I reckon we ought to offer them our first and someone from our list, if we haven't already. Either Burgoyne or Lovett could be awesome for us.
We need to land a "big fish" from somewhere, though, if Bally goes and opens up room in our salary cap.

S.A Saint · Post: # 841874Post **S.A Saint** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 3:24am

actually thinking about it i would actually prefer lovett over burgoyne....sure he might be a better player but moving interstate and needing time to settle in and would be way more expensive then lovett...plus he seems to be injured last few years and very inconsistent...

SaintBot · Post: # 841896Post **SaintBot** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 7:02am

So how bout it.

Trade 1:
St Kilda Receive: Andrew Lovett + Selection 26
Essendon Receive: Matt Maguire + Selection 16

Trade 2:
St Kilda Receive: Andrejs Everitt
Western Bulldogs Receive: Selection 26

Trade 3a:
St Kilda Receive: Brett Peake + Selection 20 (Fre)
Collingwood Receive: Luke Ball + Selection 48 (St K)
Fremantle Receive: Leon Davis + Selection 30 (Coll)

or
Trade 3b:
St Kilda Receive: Ben McKinley
Collingwood Receive: Luke Ball
West Coast Receive: Leon Davis + Selection 30 (Coll)

Essentially for St Kilda (In case of 3a):
Receive: Andrew Lovett, Andrejs Everitt, Brett Peake, Selection 20
Discard: Matt Maguire, Luke Ball, Selection 16, Selection 48
Picks in draft: Selections 20 + 32 (We will only select two players this year hence why we can trade selection 48.)

(In case of 3b):
Receive: Andrew Lovett, Andrejs Everitt, Ben Mckinley)
Discard: Matt Maguire, Luke Ball, Selection 16)
Picks in draft: Selections 32 + 48

saint66au · Post: # 841898Post **saint66au** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 7:08am

Hope we make a really hard play for Lovett

EXACTLY the sort of player we need. Explosive midfield speed coupled with excellent disposal and real goal sense.

I rate Spida jnr also. Work with a bloke whos known him all the way thru junior ranks..reckons hes an A grade lad with none of his brothers brainfade attributes.

Im not usually a fan of trading picks but Id lose a couple to get these 2 to the Saints

thirty-seven!? · Tue 06 Oct 2009 7:37am

I like ur ideas Saintbot - was actually thinking about that WCE one last night... although i reckon we would get one of WCE picks, not Collingwood - McKinley is def not worth the same as Ball or Davis! But otherwise, i like it! I love it! (although i get worried about making too many list changes!) but who cares - gotta love a good hypothetical!