How about this?

xander · Post: # 841446Post **xander** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:44pm

Thinline wrote:
Super post.

Daisy as a Saint makes me feel vaguely vomitous...but the possibility is there...Gawd...

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No way

besides he'd probably get scared of Goddard

Eastern · Post: # 841459Post **Eastern** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:47pm

If Brock McLean is worth a 1st rounder Luke Ball is worth 2 players in the top 10 !!

claystreet · Post: # 841462Post **claystreet** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:48pm

xander wrote:
Thinline wrote:
Super post.

Daisy as a Saint makes me feel vaguely vomitous...but the possibility is there...Gawd...

I
No way
besides he'd probably get scared of Goddard

Daisy is a pillow with a handbag pleeez your making me crook

sax · Post: # 841463Post **sax** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:48pm

Pick 14! That's it! If they don't like it flower off and we'll deal with someone else. We then trade pick 16 and a player (Goose, L. Fisher, whoever) to Carlton for Fev.
Ball was on $600k per year, Carlton have said they'll pay some of Fev's salary if the deal's right, should be able to fit him under the cap now!!!!

ausfatcat · Post: # 841466Post **ausfatcat** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:49pm

sax wrote:Pick 14! That's it! If they don't like it flower off and we'll deal with someone else. We then trade pick 16 and a player (Goose, L. Fisher, whoever) to Carlton for Fev.
Ball was on $600k per year, Carlton have said they'll pay some of Fev's salary if the deal's right, should be able to fit him under the cap now!!!!

That's already going to Sydney for Jolly.

claystreet · Post: # 841469Post **claystreet** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:49pm

I mentioned on another thread about Fev i could cuite warm to a Coleman medalist behaving himself and kicking 80 or 90

sax · Post: # 841470Post **sax** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:50pm

ausfatcat wrote:
sax wrote:Pick 14! That's it! If they don't like it flower off and we'll deal with someone else. We then trade pick 16 and a player (Goose, L. Fisher, whoever) to Carlton for Fev.
Ball was on $600k per year, Carlton have said they'll pay some of Fev's salary if the deal's right, should be able to fit him under the cap now!!!!
That's already going to Sydney for Jolly.

Is that a DONE DEAL is it??
If it is, give us Harry O and a 3rd rounder! We'll still trade for Fev!!

ausfatcat · Post: # 841471Post **ausfatcat** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:50pm

No but they need Jolly more than Ball if it comes down to it.

bigred · Post: # 841474Post **bigred** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:51pm

Collingwood have f*** all.

And they will trade like arseholes.

xander · Post: # 841477Post **xander** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:52pm

ausfatcat wrote:
sax wrote:Pick 14! That's it! If they don't like it flower off and we'll deal with someone else. We then trade pick 16 and a player (Goose, L. Fisher, whoever) to Carlton for Fev.
Ball was on $600k per year, Carlton have said they'll pay some of Fev's salary if the deal's right, should be able to fit him under the cap now!!!!
That's already going to Sydney for Jolly.

Is that all they are offering? If it is i'd be shocked if sydney accepted it. Jolly is clearly worth at least 2 Pick 14s.

vacuous space · Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:52pm

ausfatcat wrote:No but they need Jolly more than Ball if it comes down to it.

If they've offered Bally $500K, they might disagree with you. Remember, Mick isn't the world's biggest fan of ruckmen.

snippa · Post: # 841482Post **snippa** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:52pm

Serious suggestion here

Pies want Jolly and Ball

So say pick 14 and Cox or or Dawes for Jolly and sydney's third round pick

Then pies use sydney's third and their second and third to Saints for Ball .

Saints on trade pies second and third to Eagles for Ben McKinley

Thoughts?

saint66au · Post: # 841485Post **saint66au** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:53pm

The next few days will show if Collingwood wants Luke Ball as much as Luke Ball wants Collingwood

The Pies are notoriously unrealistic traders...they always want the world and are prepared to give bugger-all in return. They'll play the OP card and offer a third round pick. We'll play the Top 3 draft pick and ex-captain card and want Dayne Beams and Harry O'Brien

Lets hope the final outcome is closer to the second scenario than the first!

ausfatcat · Post: # 841488Post **ausfatcat** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:53pm

For this draft most clubs will be after quality not quantity in draft picks. So a 2nd and 3rd round probably wont do it for MckINLEY

Animal Enclosure · Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:54pm

xander wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:
sax wrote:Pick 14! That's it! If they don't like it flower off and we'll deal with someone else. We then trade pick 16 and a player (Goose, L. Fisher, whoever) to Carlton for Fev.
Ball was on $600k per year, Carlton have said they'll pay some of Fev's salary if the deal's right, should be able to fit him under the cap now!!!!
That's already going to Sydney for Jolly.
Is that all they are offering? If it is i'd be shocked if sydney accepted it. Jolly is clearly worth at least 2 Pick 14s.

Don't be surprised if we end up with Jolly.

sax · Post: # 841497Post **sax** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:56pm

Animal Enclosure wrote:
xander wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:
sax wrote:Pick 14! That's it! If they don't like it flower off and we'll deal with someone else. We then trade pick 16 and a player (Goose, L. Fisher, whoever) to Carlton for Fev.
Ball was on $600k per year, Carlton have said they'll pay some of Fev's salary if the deal's right, should be able to fit him under the cap now!!!!
That's already going to Sydney for Jolly.
Is that all they are offering? If it is i'd be shocked if sydney accepted it. Jolly is clearly worth at least 2 Pick 14s.
Don't be surprised if we end up with Jolly.

3-way

Ball to Collingwood
Pick 14 to Sydney
Jolly to Saints!

thirty-seven!? · Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:57pm

sax wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:
sax wrote:Pick 14! That's it! If they don't like it flower off and we'll deal with someone else. We then trade pick 16 and a player (Goose, L. Fisher, whoever) to Carlton for Fev.
Ball was on $600k per year, Carlton have said they'll pay some of Fev's salary if the deal's right, should be able to fit him under the cap now!!!!
That's already going to Sydney for Jolly.
Is that a DONE DEAL is it??
If it is, give us Harry O and a 3rd rounder! We'll still trade for Fev!!

Far from done... Sydney actually think pick 14 is not enough (Jolly is still in contract so they can play hardball)... whether that means that Pies will back out or not, time will tell... But Ball is definately moving... Jolly is still suspicious

Eastern · Post: # 841502Post **Eastern** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:58pm

I believe we should demand a top 10 pick and a reasonable player under 23yo for Bally. How the filth obtain the pick to deal with I don't care !!

Richter · Post: # 841503Post **Richter** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 9:59pm

Crikey, I'd take Dale Thomas for Luke Ball in a heartbeat. Won't happen though.

Whilst I'd love to be able to say that LB is worth a first rounder, I don't think he actually warrants it these days.

Will all come down to how desperate the pies are to have him. If the best we can get from them is a 2nd round pick - rather than a player or 3-way - then I'd rather let him go into the PSD than get stung by the pies.

sax · Post: # 841518Post **sax** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 10:06pm

How about this???

Luke Ball to Collingwood,
Our Pick 32 to Carlton,
Pies Pick 14 to Carlton,
Fev to Saints!!!!

vacuous space · Mon 05 Oct 2009 10:07pm

If Brock McLean is worth pick 11 in this draft, surely Luke Ball's worth at least pick 14, if not more. Since Collingwood are unlikely to part with players like Dick, Sidebottom and Beams, what else have they got to offer?

Jared Blight - Utility from Swan Districts (WA). Hasn't played a game. Turns 19 in January. Don't know much about him, but apparently we were keen to look at him at last year's WA state screening.

Nathan J. Brown - Highly touted key defender who couldn't keep his spot as the year progressed. Turns 21 in December. Probably not needed with the emergence of Zac Dawson.

Ben Reid - Taken the pick before Armitage in 2006. Very athletic tall who struggles with his kicking. Don't see a fit there.

Luke Rounds - Pick 46 last year. Midfielder from the Geelong Falcons. Turns 19 in Feb. Not sure how he went this year in the VFL. Didn't play an AFL game. Is very quick and has a huge tank.

So there's not a lot in the way of kids. Fringe players like Goldsack and Dawes aren't exactly what we want either. They're probably going to want to hold onto their core group.

The only way I can see this one working out is if Sydney will take, say, Brown and Reid for Jolly, leaving the pick for us. Pick 14 and, say, Rounds, might not be ideal, but it may be the best we can get. Indeed, given Luke's history it might be better than any offer we get.

I just can't shake the feeling we're going to get screwed on this one.

EDIT: Removed Dyas since he's gone home.

Teflon · Post: # 841524Post **Teflon** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 10:08pm

Richter wrote:Crikey, I'd take Dale Thomas for Luke Ball in a heartbeat. Won't happen though.

I think youve been smoking stuff again - last night you told us Josh Fraser was a ruckman....even my Collingwood mates laugh at that FFS...

"dAISY" is just that. Goes missing and is defensively spastic.

NO thanks

Also I cant believe some posters are suggesting a 179cm Medhurst is "just what we need for a third talkl fwd option"....frk me he was DROPPED for finals as his form was so woeful and has played 1 good year....

Collingwood have little for us that they WILL trade Im afraid.

claystreet · Mon 05 Oct 2009 10:09pm

The thought of Medhurst scares me, just another head on a stick

bergholt · Post: # 841531Post **bergholt** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 10:11pm

vacuous space wrote:Kevin Dyas - Irish lad who turns 22 later this month. Currently on the Pies rookie list. Supposedly skilled. VFL followers might know a bit more.

Dyas has retired - he's going home.

vacuous space · Mon 05 Oct 2009 10:15pm

bergholt wrote:Dyas has retired - he's going home.

Thanks. Corrected my post.