LUKE BALL and 2nd ROUND for FEVOLA... YES or NO?

Eastern · Post: # 838826Post **Eastern** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 5:22pm

Back on Fevola;

Does Fev want a premiership medelion for Fev? or

Does Fev want to be part of a premiership team?

Both are ver different and I suspect the former, and that is one of the reasons why I believe we should give him a wide berth !!

Milton66 · Post: # 838828Post **Milton66** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 5:24pm

Eastern wrote:Back on Fevola;

Does Fev want a premiership medelion for Fev? or

Does Fev want to be part of a premiership team?

Both are ver different and I suspect the former, and that is one of the reasons why I believe we should give him a wide berth !!

Does the end jsutify the means?

Then again... sleep with dogs and you wake up with fleas.

SainterK · Post: # 838831Post **SainterK** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 5:26pm

Eastern wrote:Back on Fevola;

Does Fev want a premiership medelion for Fev? or

Does Fev want to be part of a premiership team?

Both are ver different and I suspect the former, and that is one of the reasons why I believe we should give him a wide berth !!

I suspect you are right Eastern, let's reflect on the team player that is Brendon.....

He booed and gave the thumbs down if anyone in his team received more brownlow votes than he did, he didn't go to the B&F probably because it was not likely that he was going to win, he is generally ungracious in defeat and belays that in his body language after a loss...

Anything I have missed?

saint75 · Post: # 838843Post **saint75** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 5:45pm

SainterK wrote:
Eastern wrote:Back on Fevola;

Does Fev want a premiership medelion for Fev? or

Does Fev want to be part of a premiership team?

Both are ver different and I suspect the former, and that is one of the reasons why I believe we should give him a wide berth !!
I suspect you are right Eastern, let's reflect on the team player that is Brendon.....

He booed and gave the thumbs down if anyone in his team received more brownlow votes than he did, he didn't go to the B&F probably because it was not likely that he was going to win, he is generally ungracious in defeat and belays that in his body language after a loss...

Anything I have missed?

You really don't like Fev much, do you SainterK?

Make no mistake, IF he comes to Sainterland, it will be with a different attitude and quite a few stipulations or he will quickly be shown the door. Our team and coaching staff wouldn't put up with his carp. Maybe it is just what he needs to get back on track. Sure, he can be an idiot, but he has never really hurt anyone but himself. Could a few of the other AFL players going around at the moment say the same....??

IluvHarvey · Post: # 838847Post **IluvHarvey** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 5:49pm

saint75 wrote: You really don't like Fev much, do you SainterK?

That makes 2 of us.

This is something that i wrote in the other thread

Personally I do not want Fev at the Saints. He is everything that we have tried to steer clear of in recent times (culture wise). I also don't want to lose any of our current players to gain him, this would not sit well with me. I don't like his attitude, I think it stinks and a bad attitude has a way of influencing others. Would Cloke, Betts and Garlett have gone out on the p**s if they were at our club? Who knows but probably not. Bad attitude breeds and Fev is the king of bad attitudes. This is just my opinion, not fact. Thanks for your time

barks4eva · Post: # 838850Post **barks4eva** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 5:54pm

We must remember that Fevola has been in a very piss poor and morally corrupt environment for his whole AFL career, put him in a professionally run club like St kilda and he will soon reform!

St Fidelius · Thu 01 Oct 2009 6:03pm

barks4eva wrote:We must remember that Fevola has been in a very piss poor and morally corrupt environment for his whole AFL career, put him in a professionally run club like St kilda and he will soon reform!

My tip is that he'll stay at Carltoon or go to the Filth, where he can mix and socialise with Didak and the other liar Shaw

Eastern · Post: # 838866Post **Eastern** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 6:22pm

barks4eva wrote:We must remember that Fevola has been in a very piss poor and morally corrupt environment for his whole AFL career, put him in a professionally run club like St kilda and he will soon reform!

Creature of habit?

Past the point where he could/would change?

!!

Dan Warna · Post: # 838868Post **Dan Warna** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 6:24pm

I would have (and have) said that about Gardiner.

emmdee · Post: # 838914Post **emmdee** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 7:27pm

No No No....Bally is gold with his leadership & inspiration, never let guys like him & lenny go...

St Fidelius · Thu 01 Oct 2009 7:35pm

emmdee wrote:No No No....Bally is gold with his leadership & inspiration, never let guys like him & lenny go...

spot on mate...

Ball has great leadership and a former Captain, Best and Fairest winner V Fevola alcohol problems and gambling issues, with little qualities what so ever off field and sometimes shows little leadership qualities with fellow team mates on field.

From memory didn't Fevola get kicked off the Australian team in Ireland after a brawl at a pub???

He is a flowing loser and I just feel for his wife and kids, some of these types never grow up until it's way too late

Johnny Favier · Thu 01 Oct 2009 7:55pm

emmdee wrote:No No No....Bally is gold with his leadership & inspiration, never let guys like him & lenny go...

+1

Luke Ball should be going nowhere. He is exactly the type of guy we need to have around our football club.
His worth beyond what he produces on the field can never be underestimated.

To me he is a big part of the heart and soul of this club and to tinker with that chemistry is inviting disaster IMO.

3rd generation saint · Thu 01 Oct 2009 8:07pm

Let's see, Ball get's dropped to the two's, isn't happy, but works his butt off and get's play finals and just misses out on apremiership.
Fevola get's dropped to the twos, probably sooks and goes out on the booze and get's plastered.
Who would you rather have?

plugger66 · Post: # 838938Post **plugger66** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 8:15pm

3rd generation saint wrote:Let's see, Ball get's dropped to the two's, isn't happy, but works his butt off and get's play finals and just misses out on apremiership.
Fevola get's dropped to the twos, probably sooks and goes out on the booze and get's plastered.
Who would you rather have?

The person who helps us win the flag.

St Fidelius · Thu 01 Oct 2009 8:17pm

oh, I forgot to answer the title of the thread

NO!!!

Yes, if Ball is on the suggested $600K, the Club will no doubt offer a lesser contract with probably some performance incentives to bolster that contract.

But again, NO way trade Luke Ball for a cretin like Fevola, who time and time again proves he has issues with alcohol and possibly gambling.

F*** him he deserves to stay at Carltoon or go to the filth

MACEwasACE · Post: # 838952Post **MACEwasACE** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 8:25pm

No Ball. No Goose.

Not sure who, but definately not those two.

skeptic · Post: # 838954Post **skeptic** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 8:27pm

while i'm not completely against the idea of drafting Fev, i think we lose in this deal hardcore

I wouldn't straight swap Ball for Fev alone never mind a 2nd rd pick

SainterK · Post: # 838974Post **SainterK** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 8:53pm

plugger66 wrote:
3rd generation saint wrote:Let's see, Ball get's dropped to the two's, isn't happy, but works his butt off and get's play finals and just misses out on apremiership.
Fevola get's dropped to the twos, probably sooks and goes out on the booze and get's plastered.
Who would you rather have?
The person who helps us win the flag.

And why is that Fev, and don't just give me the coleman medallist spin...

Keeping in mind that he would need to adhere to the trademark of course?

Sam23 · Post: # 839064Post **Sam23** » Thu 01 Oct 2009 10:47pm

PJ · Post: # 839067Post PJ » Thu 01 Oct 2009 10:50pm

In order for Fev to join the saints he would have to have the backing of our leadership group. Now that would be an interesting meeting to be at. If it came at the cost of Bally you could find a few cracks appearing in the solidarity.

Bernard Shakey · Fri 02 Oct 2009 12:33am

PJ wrote:In order for Fev to join the saints he would have to have the backing of our leadership group. Now that would be an interesting meeting to be at. If it came at the cost of Bally you could find a few cracks appearing in the solidarity.

He's a good mate of most of our leadership group.

georgie girl · Fri 02 Oct 2009 12:33am

IluvHarvey wrote:
saint75 wrote: You really don't like Fev much, do you SainterK?
That makes 2 of us.

This is something that i wrote in the other thread

Personally I do not want Fev at the Saints. He is everything that we have tried to steer clear of in recent times (culture wise). I also don't want to lose any of our current players to gain him, this would not sit well with me. I don't like his attitude, I think it stinks and a bad attitude has a way of influencing others. Would Cloke, Betts and Garlett have gone out on the p**s if they were at our club? Who knows but probably not. Bad attitude breeds and Fev is the king of bad attitudes. This is just my opinion, not fact. Thanks for your time

I AGREE! We don't need his attitude at the club!
We do need those who are loyal to what is best for the team - i.e. the likes of Luke Ball!
Go Saints in 2010!

PJ · Post: # 839155Post PJ » Fri 02 Oct 2009 12:36am

He's a good mate of most of our leadership group.

I know but where do you draw the line between mates and mates you respect and play with.

CaptainRiewoldt · Fri 02 Oct 2009 2:58am

BTW this wasnt my opinion or anything it was stated in the herald sun as a possible trade.

I reckon the Goose will be awesome next year. Surely theyll be a spot for him come open. Rossy has said he wanted a full year of VFL from Matt before putting him back in. Well people he is now ready to go. CARN THE GOOSE!!!

Armitage, Steven, Lynch even Stanley all hoping they stand up and play 10 games next year. it would be nice.

Con Gorozidis · Fri 02 Oct 2009 5:12am

Eastern wrote:QUESTIONS Re FAVOLA?

It is said that there is more to come out. What? and When?

Is alcohol his ONLY problem?

Is he an alcoholic? or a binge drinker?

When was the last time he was drug tested?

Has he tested positive in any drug test? 3 strike policy?

A lot of commentators are calling for him to go into rehab. Why?

Is this another Ben Cousins type scenario?

These, and many more questions need to be answered before even thinking of ANY trade for him !!

fev is fine. binge drinker. not real bright. who cares???
so called commentators are full of sh*t.

zero strikes. get over it. very good footballer.

ratten trying to make a "stand" hoping it works. hes a goose . he will just lose 100 goals. next.