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Johnson & Chapman

Post: # 832117Post St. Luke »

Surely Johnson and Chapman, whilst they are gun players, may have some issues running out a high impact, fast run game due to their past injury records???

I can imagine no bench for Geelong going into the last quarter and some very tired players trying to hold back a St Kilda tide!

Looking at the ages and games played for each side, it looks relatively even. The thing that appears better on paper to me is that we’ve got a side who looks as if they could handle more of the run this game will produce.

No doubt Schnides and Milney must fire, produce goals and apply pressure for us to run the Cats into the ground!

Thoughts anyone??


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Their recent 'outs' have returned just in time , but they must be suspect in a hard grinding St Kilda game. We are not another Collingwood of last weekend.... we had a tough game but that probably did us good .


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Anyone else surprised Stevie J played 80% game time last week?


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Post: # 832125Post paws »

i expect both of them to murder us


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Post: # 832127Post mightysainters »

injection to stevie j obviously... but if we nullify them with gilbert and dempster its a loooong way to winning there fwd line looks crap without them.


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mightysainters wrote:injection to stevie j obviously... but if we nullify them with gilbert and dempster its a loooong way to winning there fwd line looks crap without them.
there's no way known dempster will play on chapman. chapman's way too quick for him. dempster will play third tall forward on harley or milburn.


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Post: # 832166Post mightysainters »

Dempster slow? Ummm I think you'll find he's actually quite quick and he will go to either stevie j or chapman...

He looks slow when he plays forward because he is a decoy and that is not his natural position..


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Post: # 832174Post skeptic »

I think Chapman will run out the game just fine

Johnson's impact you would expect to down due to lack of match fitness ditto Ottens


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Post: # 832176Post mightysainters »

Chapman is the problem... he was so good against us last time I hope ross has worked a hell of alot in finding how to nullify him (in ross we trust) but of course he has....

Chapman is THE leader in the Geelong lineup hard tough uncompromising.... I hope whoever gets the job does it extremely well.


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Post: # 832177Post St. Luke »

Looks like there goes my lame theory :lol:


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Post: # 832184Post saintsRrising »

St. Luke wrote:Surely Johnson and Chapman, whilst they are gun players, may have some issues running out a high impact, fast run game due to their past injury records???
With them and Ottens plus one or two others such as Rooke I believe that the Saints will have a fitness edge and that this could be telling in the last quarter if the game is close or the Saints are in froint.

This is predicated by the first 3 quartes being hard and exhausting....

The Cats often start well, even though last time against they did not and so it is important for the saints that the Cats do not gert off toa great start which could open up the game making it less taxing.


I am reminded of the Pies/Crows match where the underdone Birdman Burton was real liability in the last quarter as his stamina was spent.


So IMO we haveafitness adavantage, but that will only come to fore if our players ensure that it is avery taxing match.


Also this is issue and concern was probably one reason (in addition to Zac being better offensively) why Max was not selected. The risk of him going down and leaving us 21 to 22 would hurt in the rotations.


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bergholt wrote:
mightysainters wrote:injection to stevie j obviously... but if we nullify them with gilbert and dempster its a loooong way to winning there fwd line looks crap without them.
there's no way known dempster will play on chapman. chapman's way too quick for him. dempster will play third tall forward on harley or milburn.
Dempster ain't slow and Chapman ain't quick.

Both are very strong.


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Post: # 832191Post flyingwhale18 »

Both Dempster and Chapman are units. i think Dempster has the strength to go to chappy though.


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paws wrote:i expect both of them to murder us
Now that's real positive. How about changing your thinking to our defence "murdering" them tomorrow. :)


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Post: # 832238Post degruch »

SuperSaint wrote:
paws wrote:i expect both of them to murder us
Now that's real positive. How about changing your thinking to our defence "murdering" them tomorrow. :)
I think by 'us', Paws means Geelong. :wink:

Imagine how many trolls would be on here if we were playing Carlton!?!


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Post: # 832250Post claystreet »

paws wrote:i expect both of them to murder us
Loser comment


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Post: # 832417Post The Saintsational Man »

claystreet wrote:
paws wrote:i expect both of them to murder us
Loser comment
I guess the username doesn't give away any clues......


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paws wrote:i expect both of them to murder us
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Post: # 832466Post St. Luke »

The reason we sadly dropped one of our legendary heroes will become prevalent tomorrow! Geelong will come to realize this when some of their "big names" lose some of their shine!


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St. Luke wrote:The reason we sadly dropped one of our legendary heroes will become prevalent tomorrow! Geelong will come to realize this when some of their "big names" lose some of their shine!
I am curious to see how their older bodies hold up, Milburn for example, seemed to really struggle when Collingwood had them under pressure in the first half.


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Post: # 832482Post chook23 »

St. Luke wrote:The reason we sadly dropped one of our legendary heroes will become prevalent tomorrow! Geelong will come to realize this when some of their "big names" lose some of their shine!
Just which champion was dropped!!!


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chook23 wrote:
St. Luke wrote:The reason we sadly dropped one of our legendary heroes will become prevalent tomorrow! Geelong will come to realize this when some of their "big names" lose some of their shine!
Just which champion was dropped!!!
Agree. Eddy's looking like he may be a player and all, but I reckon labelling him a 'champion' is probably a bit premature...


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Post: # 833346Post St. Luke »

Well......we've almost got one of em down!

The lame theory isn't looking too bad atm :lol:


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