ARMITAGE

bakes · Post: # 828775Post **bakes** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 3:18pm

I just get the feeling that the worse the weather forecast is for Saturday (i.e. rain, hail, wind), the more of a chance Armitage is to replace Eddy.

Think back to all his games this year.
- Plenty of tackles
- Contested ball
- Can kick goals too
- Has a good disposal by foot.

Yes, perhaps he does lack match fitness, however I would only expect him to play 70% game time coming off the bench to give mids a breather.

Players like him are needed against Geelong, especially on a wet day when tough bodies are needed.

I would even consider bringing in Dempster for Farren Ray, but hey, that's just my opinion.

woooosaints · Tue 22 Sep 2009 3:34pm

i think there is something behind the scenes we dont know about armitage maybe a very poor attitude or very poor fitness. his form in the few games he played has been really good im not sure why he is not in for a few guys

DWOODROW · Post: # 828808Post **DWOODROW** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:00pm

Doesn't have a tank apparently. Havn't seen evidence of it yet though. At least he gets possessions.

ausfatcat · Post: # 828811Post **ausfatcat** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:05pm

DWOODROW wrote:Doesn't have a tank apparently. Havn't seen evidence of it yet though. At least he gets possessions.

Always seems to play well in the first half and go missing in the second, this would indicate a lack of fitness base.

Joffa 5 · Post: # 828812Post **Joffa 5** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:06pm

DWOODROW wrote:Doesn't have a tank apparently. Havn't seen evidence of it yet though. At least he gets possessions.

Do you think (know if) he'll be at the saints next year?

DWOODROW · Post: # 828815Post **DWOODROW** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:09pm

Joffa 5 wrote:
DWOODROW wrote:Doesn't have a tank apparently. Havn't seen evidence of it yet though. At least he gets possessions.
Do you think (know if) he'll be at the saints next year?

Still has a year left on his contract so will still be their. Would be expecting him to get games if not he should look elsewhere to have a career.

Moccha · Post: # 828816Post **Moccha** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:11pm

bakes wrote:I just get the feeling that the worse the weather forecast is for Saturday (i.e. rain, hail, wind), the more of a chance Armitage is to replace Eddy.

Think back to all his games this year.
- Plenty of tackles
- Contested ball
- Can kick goals too
- Has a good disposal by foot.

Yes, perhaps he does lack match fitness, however I would only expect him to play 70% game time coming off the bench to give mids a breather.

Players like him are needed against Geelong, especially on a wet day when tough bodies are needed.

I would even consider bringing in Dempster for Farren Ray, but hey, that's just my opinion.

I'm with you on this one. I have a sneaking suspicion he could play

Moods · Post: # 828825Post **Moods** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:16pm

Doesn't work hard enough to get to the contests. Once at the contests works very hard though. Notice how he only wins contested ball, and not much loose ball. Bit like Luke Ball himself. Can only afford to have one of this type in the team though. Need our on ballers to receive and deliver as well as give.

As for Eddy - not sure that Armo would replace him. A run with type of player like Dempster is more likely if Lyon was to change anything I eckon.

Mr Magic · Post: # 828826Post **Mr Magic** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:18pm

Who was his opponent in his last game and how did he go?
(I believe it was North Melbourne)

That may give a clue as to why he's not in the team?

Armoooo · Post: # 828828Post **Armoooo** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:21pm

Don't remember but based on your post I'm assuming it would be Andrew Swallow?

IMO Armitage has no chance of getting a game, if RL couldn't trust him the rest of the year he's unlikely to roll the dice with him in the big one...

Armitage needs a big pre-season working on whatever it is that's keeping him out of the team, whether it be attitude, ball use, fitness etc. He has one more year to prove he deserves to be here...

DWOODROW · Post: # 828838Post **DWOODROW** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:32pm

Mr Magic wrote:Who was his opponent in his last game and how did he go?
(I believe it was North Melbourne)

That may give a clue as to why he's not in the team?

Are you sure he was his opponent the whole game. or even the whole of the first qtr for that matter. I think not.

InkerSaint · Post: # 828840Post **InkerSaint** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:33pm

It's not about having to prove himself.

Look at who he came in for - Lenny Hayes. He's fighting for a spot where we have a truckload of talent currently on the park.

Armitage may have to settle for a bit-part for the next couple of years as part of the price we will pay for having a glut of talented 26-year olds.

Mr Magic · Post: # 828845Post **Mr Magic** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:36pm

InkerSaint wrote:It's not about having to prove himself.

Look at who he came in for - Lenny Hayes. He's fighting for a spot where we have a truckload of talent currently on the park.

Armitage may have to settle for a bit-part for the next couple of years as part of the price we will pay for having a glut of talented 26-year olds.

Or choose to go to Gold Coast at the end of 2010, where he is likely to be one of their premier mids?

I have absolutely no inside knowledge and am purely speculating, but it has been my thoughts all year that he will be our 'uncontracted player' for them.

DWOODROW · Post: # 828846Post **DWOODROW** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:36pm

InkerSaint wrote:It's not about having to prove himself.

Look at who he came in for - Lenny Hayes. He's fighting for a spot where we have a truckload of talent currently on the park.

Armitage may have to settle for a bit-part for the next couple of years as part of the price we will pay for having a glut of talented 26-year olds.

Then why would he stay at Saints if he can get a game elsewhere. Who wants to be a just in case player or a back up.

hotdish · Post: # 828851Post **hotdish** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:42pm

It has been reported that match committee will only consider 3 players to bring in: Dempster, Geary and Hudghton.

Armitage nor Gwilt will play.

plugger66 · Post: # 828856Post **plugger66** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:45pm

Mr Magic wrote:Who was his opponent in his last game and how did he go?
(I believe it was North Melbourne)

That may give a clue as to why he's not in the team?

Where did you hear that?

Red · Post: # 828860Post **Red** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:48pm

He played two good games in the midfield and one poor game at half

forward. Maybe he needs to play in the midfield to have an impact.

Although I would be inclined to give him or Dempster a shot especially if

it wet.

Mr Magic · Post: # 828867Post **Mr Magic** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:54pm

plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Who was his opponent in his last game and how did he go?
(I believe it was North Melbourne)

That may give a clue as to why he's not in the team?
Where did you hear that?

Just pure speculation on my part.

I figure he must have done something wrong to have been dropped?
He seemed to get plenty of the footy so it must have been another area that was considered poor.

plugger66 · Post: # 828879Post **plugger66** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:59pm

Mr Magic wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Who was his opponent in his last game and how did he go?
(I believe it was North Melbourne)

That may give a clue as to why he's not in the team?
Where did you hear that?
Just pure speculation on my part.

I figure he must have done something wrong to have been dropped?
He seemed to get plenty of the footy so it must have been another area that was considered poor.

That is an excellent point. And that is why using stats to say player A or B is better than Eddy is rubbish unless of course they do other things exactly the same.

Milton66 · Post: # 828882Post **Milton66** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 5:00pm

I'm still amused at people speculating on players who have not played regular footy this, being called up for a GF of all games.

ace · Post: # 828886Post **ace** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 5:02pm

Armoooo wrote:Don't remember but based on your post I'm assuming it would be Andrew Swallow?

IMO Armitage has no chance of getting a game, if RL couldn't trust him the rest of the year he's unlikely to roll the dice with him in the big one...

Armitage needs a big pre-season working on whatever it is that's keeping him out of the team, whether it be attitude, ball use, fitness etc. He has one more year to prove he deserves to be here...

Ouch! the umpires gave Swallow 3 votes in that match.

DWOODROW · Post: # 828890Post **DWOODROW** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 5:04pm

Milton66 wrote:I'm still amused at people speculating on players who have not played regular footy this, being called up for a GF of all games.

You mean regular footy at AFL level. All be it the fact that we are in the grand final without players who may offer more than some is a credit to the players playing but doesn't mean peoples opinions aren't warranted about particular inclusions.

Mr Magic · Post: # 828892Post **Mr Magic** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 5:05pm

plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Who was his opponent in his last game and how did he go?
(I believe it was North Melbourne)

That may give a clue as to why he's not in the team?
Where did you hear that?
Just pure speculation on my part.

I figure he must have done something wrong to have been dropped?
He seemed to get plenty of the footy so it must have been another area that was considered poor.
That is an excellent point. And that is why using stats to say player A or B is better than Eddy is rubbish unless of course they do other things exactly the same.

Yep, it's great to see all these threads/posts on Robert Eddy and:-
'the photographs he has of Ross Lyon'
'that he is Ross' love child'
'that he is a favourite of Ross'
etc

How would anybody outside the team and coaching/match committee actually know what a player's role is and how he performed that role?

And yet some feel 'expert' enough to pass judgment in the most derogatory manner on players.
Mind boggling.

Milton66 · Post: # 828896Post **Milton66** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 5:07pm

DWOODROW wrote:
Milton66 wrote:I'm still amused at people speculating on players who have not played regular footy this, being called up for a GF of all games.
You mean regular footy at AFL level. All be it the fact that we are in the grand final without players who may offer more than some is a credit to the players playing but doesn't mean peoples opinions aren't warranted about particular inclusions.

So why would you pick Armo? In a GF?

DWOODROW · Post: # 828901Post **DWOODROW** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 5:09pm

Milton66 wrote:
DWOODROW wrote:
Milton66 wrote:I'm still amused at people speculating on players who have not played regular footy this, being called up for a GF of all games.
You mean regular footy at AFL level. All be it the fact that we are in the grand final without players who may offer more than some is a credit to the players playing but doesn't mean peoples opinions aren't warranted about particular inclusions.
So why would you pick Armo? In a GF?

Don't remember saying I would pick him

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