Greg Westway Nathan Burke and the board

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
saint1974
Club Player
Posts: 425
Joined: Mon 01 Sep 2008 4:31pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Greg Westway Nathan Burke and the board

Post: # 822056Post saint1974 »

If by any chance any of our board members read this I hope you understand how many FOUNDATION Social Club members are very disappointed with you.
When I elected you to the board one question I asked was would Foundation social club membership stil hold it's importance I was told yes it was.
Well now I"m told by the club on equal level to the Johnny come latelys who signed up May June this year well yep thats great the club have new members what about us supporters who pay and renew our memberships every year even when we win 2 or 3 games.
Thanks for breaking that promise I have registered for grand final tickets excluding standing room as I have 3 children and are still recovering with a chronic illness from cancer treatment.
35 years of continuos membership plus all my clidren registered from birth obviuosly as a foundation counts for nothing.
Very Disappointed! :cry: :cry:


User avatar
ausfatcat
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6536
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:36pm
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 101 times

Post: # 822060Post ausfatcat »

Wait untill you know the outcome before getting upset.


Everyone has a story remember that as well.


User avatar
mordi
Club Player
Posts: 720
Joined: Tue 18 May 2004 7:15pm
Location: out of the back pocket...bound for HBF
Been thanked: 4 times

Post: # 822063Post mordi »

saint1974, I suggest you contact/email Ben Hall ASAP.

Post edited to remove contact details, which can be accessed via www.saints.com.au

Thanks MODS for removing the mobile no. That was not intended, just copied the whole thing in haste.
Last edited by mordi on Thu 17 Sep 2009 6:25pm, edited 2 times in total.


What's the Point of it All?
BonoRocks
Club Player
Posts: 283
Joined: Thu 10 Jun 2004 6:26pm
Location: Home
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 10 times

Re: Greg Westway Nathan Burke and the board

Post: # 822064Post BonoRocks »

saint1974 wrote:If by any chance any of our board members read this I hope you understand how many FOUNDATION Social Club members are very disappointed with you.
When I elected you to the board one question I asked was would Foundation social club membership stil hold it's importance I was told yes it was.
Well now I"m told by the club on equal level to the Johnny come latelys who signed up May June this year well yep thats great the club have new members what about us supporters who pay and renew our memberships every year even when we win 2 or 3 games.
Thanks for breaking that promise I have registered for grand final tickets excluding standing room as I have 3 children and are still recovering with a chronic illness from cancer treatment.
35 years of continuos membership plus all my clidren registered from birth obviuosly as a foundation counts for nothing.
Very Disappointed! :cry: :cry:
being a foundation member and with 2 young kids im hearing you, if we happen to win tomorrow and make the grand final, id be happy hanging off the rafters, but for my 2 kids that have no chance of standing or seeing anything and id have hoped my foundation membership all 4 of us hold would mean thats something i wouldnt have needed to worry about !


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Post: # 822065Post plugger66 »

Can i ask, what is a foundation member?


User avatar
ausfatcat
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6536
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:36pm
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 101 times

Post: # 822068Post ausfatcat »

They sold social club membership as a foundation social club member a couple of years ago, saying they will have added benefits to normal social club members or something.


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Post: # 822069Post plugger66 »

ausfatcat wrote:They sold social club membership as a foundation social club member a couple of years ago, saying they will have added benefits to normal social club members or something.
Did they cost more? Ive never heard of it apart from on here.


Sunday Red
Club Player
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed 29 Apr 2009 8:24pm
Location: Melbourne

Post: # 822071Post Sunday Red »

With all due respect, there was an option to apply for special access seating for people with illness or who were unable to stand for the duration of the match. Did you not explore this option with Ticketek?


St.Dianne
Club Player
Posts: 94
Joined: Thu 03 Nov 2005 8:16pm
Location: Aisle 38 Level 1 Docklands

Post: # 822075Post St.Dianne »

I agree with you as I am a Foundation Social Club member (since 1975) and am also disappointed with the way the Grand Final tickets will be allocated. I am 63 years of age and definately would not be able to climb up to the top levels of the MCG or stand on the day. I have friends (also Foundation Social Club members) who are in their seventies/eighties who are in the same situation. If we miss out on seats the Club will hear about it. What is the benefit of renewing our Social Club membership all these years?


User avatar
ausfatcat
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6536
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:36pm
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 101 times

Post: # 822082Post ausfatcat »

In fairness to the club, I don't think they are able to instruct ticketmaster to distinquish between social club and foundation social club.


All the other clubs only have priority 1 access and priority 2 access only, maybe the clubs are only limited to two.

Which for us is SC member priority 1 and Sept saints priority 2.


User avatar
Milton66
SS Life Member
Posts: 3521
Joined: Tue 19 May 2009 9:53pm
Location: None of your goddam business

Post: # 822084Post Milton66 »

I do recall the club mentioning that if you have special needs, then to let ticketek know.


Hotel De Los Muertos: Your room is ready... Care to step inside?
saint1974
Club Player
Posts: 425
Joined: Mon 01 Sep 2008 4:31pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Post: # 822085Post saint1974 »

Sunday Red wrote:With all due respect, there was an option to apply for special access seating for people with illness or who were unable to stand for the duration of the match. Did you not explore this option with Ticketek?
Thanks Sunday Red yes when I read this it said Mobility Impaired I am not in a wheelchair I can walk but I dont have the energy to stand for long periods.
Foundation membership came in about 8 years ago by the Butters board when I think we only won a couple of games but had long continuos memberships we acknolwledged for supporting the club for long continuos periods even when we weren't win many games.
I know there are a lot of other supporters with stories my main gripe is that the foundation membership is no longer recognised when I was told it would be and if I was 100% well I would stand on my head and watch the grand final just disappointed a promise was broken,I cannot fault the board or club in any other way they are doing a great job!


Faulky
Club Player
Posts: 26
Joined: Tue 08 Sep 2009 2:06pm
Location: MADDINGLEY

Post: # 822088Post Faulky »

I am also a Foundation member and have children who would not be able to stand and because of this we have selected best seat with no standing. Will not be happy if we miss out and I have just sent an email to Ben regarding the promises that we were given each year. I believe that there may be some unhappy members when the seats are allocated on Monday! I have also asked for his comments in regards to what they will do next year to rectify this problem that has baan caused (as it is too late for this year).


User avatar
IluvHarvey
SS Life Member
Posts: 2622
Joined: Fri 06 Jun 2008 4:51pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 34 times
Been thanked: 257 times

Post: # 822094Post IluvHarvey »

How dare a new board do something different!!


"It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress."
User avatar
Mr Magic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12799
Joined: Fri 04 May 2007 9:38am
Has thanked: 812 times
Been thanked: 434 times

Post: # 822098Post Mr Magic »

plugger66 wrote:Can i ask, what is a foundation member?
Some years ago the Club (under the previous regime) decided to 'reward' those Social CLub members at the time by classifying them as 'Foundation' members.
Anybody who purchased Social Club Membership after that period was not given access to being part of the 'Foundation Membership'. I can't recall exactly but I believe that in 2005 when we also registered for GF tickets (like last year and this year) Foundation Membership guaranteed you a seat.

It would appear that this year, with the late sale of Social Club memberships in May/June, the CLub has decided not to differentiate betweenthose that have been Social Club members for 5 years+ and those who haven't.


User avatar
Offbe
Club Player
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon 18 Aug 2008 7:55pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Greg Westway Nathan Burke and the board

Post: # 822105Post Offbe »

saint1974 wrote:If by any chance any of our board members read this I hope you understand how many FOUNDATION Social Club members are very disappointed with you.
When I elected you to the board one question I asked was would Foundation social club membership stil hold it's importance I was told yes it was.
Well now I"m told by the club on equal level to the Johnny come latelys who signed up May June this year well yep thats great the club have new members what about us supporters who pay and renew our memberships every year even when we win 2 or 3 games.
Thanks for breaking that promise I have registered for grand final tickets excluding standing room as I have 3 children and are still recovering with a chronic illness from cancer treatment.
35 years of continuos membership plus all my clidren registered from birth obviuosly as a foundation counts for nothing.
Very Disappointed! :cry: :cry:
cmon now, I find this post rude. I could tell you of my troubles too. You are not special mate. Most of us are massive saints fans and have been for a long time.

Most of us have also been touched by tragedy in some way, it is part of life. I will be happy if we get there at all. I will happily watch on TV if I have to aswell. Focus on tomorrow night. Stop having a pre-emptive whinge.


HarveysDeciple

Post: # 822113Post HarveysDeciple »

Club's hands tied a bit.

Would be a very difficult thing to organise, and the chances of not getting a seat remain very minimal.


saint1974
Club Player
Posts: 425
Joined: Mon 01 Sep 2008 4:31pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: Greg Westway Nathan Burke and the board

Post: # 822118Post saint1974 »

Offbe wrote:
saint1974 wrote:If by any chance any of our board members read this I hope you understand how many FOUNDATION Social Club members are very disappointed with you.
When I elected you to the board one question I asked was would Foundation social club membership stil hold it's importance I was told yes it was.
Well now I"m told by the club on equal level to the Johnny come latelys who signed up May June this year well yep thats great the club have new members what about us supporters who pay and renew our memberships every year even when we win 2 or 3 games.
Thanks for breaking that promise I have registered for grand final tickets excluding standing room as I have 3 children and are still recovering with a chronic illness from cancer treatment.
35 years of continuos membership plus all my clidren registered from birth obviuosly as a foundation counts for nothing.
Very Disappointed! :cry: :cry:
cmon now, I find this post rude. I could tell you of my troubles too. You are not special mate. Most of us are massive saints fans and have been for a long time.

Most of us have also been touched by tragedy in some way, it is part of life. I will be happy if we get there at all. I will happily watch on TV if I have to aswell. Focus on tomorrow night. Stop having a pre-emptive whinge.
Not having a whinge just disappointed!!!!!!!!!!
I love St.kilda football cluband have supported them a very long time
Strength Through Loyalty!


User avatar
Saint Bev
SS Life Member
Posts: 2939
Joined: Sun 11 Jul 2004 3:29pm
Location: Gold Coast

Post: # 822178Post Saint Bev »

Everyone is jumping to alot of conclusions here. Maybe Foundation members will get seats, you don't know. They would know by the barcodes. They still have in on the membership cards, so maybe its not disregarded as you presume.


Qld Saints Supporter Group
User avatar
IluvHarvey
SS Life Member
Posts: 2622
Joined: Fri 06 Jun 2008 4:51pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 34 times
Been thanked: 257 times

Post: # 822198Post IluvHarvey »

So let me get this straight Foundation Club members were guaranteed a GF ticket if we made it. And Now you are still guaranteed a GF ticket if we make it. I can understand why you are getting upset. It's a disgrace!!


"It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress."
3rd generation saint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4661
Joined: Thu 28 Dec 2006 8:34am
Location: Jurassic Park

Post: # 822203Post 3rd generation saint »

A Foundation Member was a reward for continuous membership in the SC.
Basically, if you we're a continuous member since before 2000, you we're a Foundation Member and therefore we're rewarded for your loyalty, not because you purchased a platinum or more expensive membership as is the case with many other clubs.
I must admit, I am a little annoyed this hasn't continued and the club could still honour this by ensuring that all SC members get a ticket, but the first allocation goes to Foundation members.
Naturally, they would have to move the date forward every few years, to what entitled you to becaome a Foundation Member.
I only need 1 ticket, but I can understand and hope all who want seats get them.


Except for the sanity nothing much has been lost.
Richter
SS Life Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Wed 30 Nov 2005 1:18pm
Location: Elwood

Post: # 822207Post Richter »

Bloody Westaway et al..... Within 2 years of coming to the board and what do you deliver....

Best Saints Home and Away record ever on the verge of a possible GF appearance.

Pah! Footy first! I ask you....... errrr.....


Hird... The unflushable one is now... just a turd...
reincarnated

Post: # 822209Post reincarnated »

Mr Magic wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Can i ask, what is a foundation member?
Some years ago the Club (under the previous regime) decided to 'reward' those Social CLub members at the time by classifying them as 'Foundation' members.
Anybody who purchased Social Club Membership after that period was not given access to being part of the 'Foundation Membership'. I can't recall exactly but I believe that in 2005 when we also registered for GF tickets (like last year and this year) Foundation Membership guaranteed you a seat.

It would appear that this year, with the late sale of Social Club memberships in May/June, the CLub has decided not to differentiate betweenthose that have been Social Club members for 5 years+ and those who haven't.
Unfortunately rules are rules and the powers within the football club made a decision based on money and how much more they could receive by not differentiating between foundation and late comers.

Part of the appeal to the late comers is the grand final ticket. From a monetary perspective if probably worked as more people saw this as a good year for us on the field and wanted to be there come grand final day if we made it. These people may have seen it as a waste of money at the beginning of the year by not predicting us to last this far into the year

Reincarnated believes the people unhappy about it will still purchase social club/foundation member packages next year and beyond anyway despite being unhappy currently

So looking at it through the club's perspective it gains money and members by making the faithful a little cranky for a moment or two


User avatar
ausfatcat
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6536
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:36pm
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 101 times

Post: # 822213Post ausfatcat »

So reincarnate you are saying the club should not sell any more social club tickets?


One thing about some of the people whinging (yes whinging) that have booked multiple tickets are all those sc memberships foundation memberships?

Because if they aren't you wouldn't get the benefits anyway.


User avatar
Mr Magic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12799
Joined: Fri 04 May 2007 9:38am
Has thanked: 812 times
Been thanked: 434 times

Post: # 822215Post Mr Magic »

IluvHarvey wrote:So let me get this straight Foundation Club members were guaranteed a GF ticket if we made it. And Now you are still guaranteed a GF ticket if we make it. I can understand why you are getting upset. It's a disgrace!!

There has never, ever been any discussion about STANDING ROOM in connection with the 'guaranteed' seat/ticket for Social CLub members.

This year because the Club, quite correctly IMO, cashed in on the opportunity to sell more Social Club Memberships primarily on the basis of a 'guarenteed' seat/ticket all of a sudden there's a 'fineprint clause' about 'standing room'.

I have no issue with the CLub selling more Social CLub memberships but I agree with the OP that those who have been long term members (Foundation) should be given some sort of consideration/recognition of their commitment to the Club over that period of time with respect to those who joined up in May/June jsut to ensure themselves of a GF ticket should we make it.


Post Reply