***All Social Club Members*** Important!!

[noblejohn]

So let me get this straight.

We have 11,500 SC members which 90% have registered for GF tickets

this equals 10,350 registrations.

We have 12,500 allocated tickets of which there are 1,000 standing room tickets

this leaves 11,500 seated tickets

If the 1,000 $1300 packages take seats

this leaves 10,500 seated tickets for SC members.

considering only 10,350 (90% of 11,500 SC members) have registered, this means

1) All 10,350 SC registered members get seated tickets
2) 1000 $1300 package holders get seated tickets

leaving

1) 150 seated tickets for September Saints
2) 1000 Standing room for Sept Saints etc.

All assuming, of course the SC 90% registration is the correct figure.

You are working this out on the basis that the seats will be drawn first in the ballot then the standing room last.
From this thread and previous threads and what is inferred in the letter is that the seated tickets and the standing room tickets will be mixed in the ballot i.e. 1st ticket out could be standing room and if you are drawn out for that ticket and you excluded standing tickets then you are out of the ballot. full stop
No ticket for you.
That means you don't get to go and a september saint could end with a seat, your seat
If that is the case then the system sucks and serious thought will be given to cancelling all future memberships, seating,
Raffle tickets returned unsold
Treat members like sh..t and expect to be treated the same in return
$3000 a year in this case will be lost to the club

[ausfatcat]

ok i did that last week
the guy was very helpful..rang him like 3 time sin two days

he said there is AROUND 1100 sept saints

So depending on how many SC members registered in the last 2 hours all Sept Saints will be offered a ticket

With approx 100 spare tickets for club members, well I presume, that would go on sale tuesday along with any other extra available tickets.



Noble John Ben Hall (membership guy for saints) has said all seated tickets will be offered to SC members first before Sept saints get a ago. It also says best available as in primo seats first, then standard, then restricted viewing then standing.......

[Superboot]

So if I registered all 8 of our Barcodes am I likely to get only:-
8 seats
or
8 standing room tickets

Not a combination of seats/standing room?

Raises the interesting question as to whether seat allocation is random or systematic.

Multiple registrations would normally be allocated seats together, and might include children. Surely they couldn't make children stand.

They also couldn't split children from adults, so I'd be interested to know how this is meant to work. I don't think we'll ever know.

[Iceman234]

You are working this out on the basis that the seats will be drawn first in the ballot then the standing room last.
From this thread and previous threads and what is inferred in the letter is that the seated tickets and the standing room tickets will be mixed in the ballot i.e. 1st ticket out could be standing room and if you are drawn out for that ticket and you excluded standing tickets then you are out of the ballot. full stop
No ticket for you.
That means you don't get to go and a september saint could end with a seat, your seat
If that is the case then the system sucks and serious thought will be given to cancelling all future memberships, seating,
Raffle tickets returned unsold
Treat members like sh..t and expect to be treated the same in return
$3000 a year in this case will be lost to the club

That's how I read it too, however other documentation (can't find it now ) I'm sure said it would be prioritised by cost - i.e. from most expensive (Premium seating) down to standing...

F*** I'm confused.

Let's win tomorrow night then I'll try to get my head around it.

[matrix]

ok i did that last week
the guy was very helpful..rang him like 3 time sin two days

he said there is AROUND 1100 sept saints

So depending on how many SC members registered in the last 2 hours all Sept Saints will be offered a ticket

With approx 100 spare tickets for club members, well I presume, that would go on sale tuesday along with any other extra available tickets.

yeah
thats why i tried to get an exact figure when ringing last week and today
last we have heard is 90% of the 11500 registered, and there was a few hrs to go.
guess we will find out saturday when CC cards are deducted
ill get a seat either way...even if it gives me standing

[Iceman234]

So if I registered all 8 of our Barcodes am I likely to get only:-
8 seats
or
8 standing room tickets

Not a combination of seats/standing room?

Raises the interesting question as to whether seat allocation is random or systematic.

Multiple registrations would normally be allocated seats together, and might include children. Surely they couldn't make children stand.

They also couldn't split children from adults, so I'd be interested to know how this is meant to work. I don't think we'll ever know.

Being the untrusting soul I am, I rang Ticketmaster after registering and spoke to a wonderfully helpful girl. I only had to give her one of the 8 barcodes I registered and she could tell me I had registered 1 concession and 7 adult SC memberships.

I assume that they are all in one group on their system.

But WTF's gonna happen when it's transferred to Ticketek...

[ausfatcat]

guess we will find out saturday when CC cards are deducted
ill get a seat either way...even if it gives me standing

We'll find out on Friday morning, when the successfull sept saints members have their numbers on display on the saints website.

[PLUGGER14]

So if I registered all 8 of our Barcodes am I likely to get only:-
8 seats
or
8 standing room tickets

Not a combination of seats/standing room?

Correct 1 in all in

or 1 out all out (if ticked no to standing room)

[matrix]

yup Ice
and IF it is randam in drawing IE: it pulls out a standing room for the first one out the hat and then pulls out say fred bloggs group of 8 people and they have ticked EXCLUDING standing room....then they get nothingm=, and thats the first one pulled!!!

hopefully its how peeps said it should be
better tickets first then middle then gen then stand....hopefully

[BringBackMadDog]

So let me get this straight.

We have 11,500 SC members which 90% have registered for GF tickets

this equals 10,350 registrations.

We have 12,500 allocated tickets of which there are 1,000 standing room tickets

this leaves 11,500 seated tickets

If the 1,000 $1300 packages take seats

this leaves 10,500 seated tickets for SC members.

considering only 10,350 (90% of 11,500 SC members) have registered, this means

1) All 10,350 SC registered members get seated tickets
2) 1000 $1300 package holders get seated tickets

leaving

1) 150 seated tickets for September Saints
2) 1000 Standing room for Sept Saints etc.

All assuming, of course the SC 90% registration is the correct figure.

You are working this out on the basis that the seats will be drawn first in the ballot then the standing room last.
From this thread and previous threads and what is inferred in the letter is that the seated tickets and the standing room tickets will be mixed in the ballot i.e. 1st ticket out could be standing room and if you are drawn out for that ticket and you excluded standing tickets then you are out of the ballot. full stop
No ticket for you.
That means you don't get to go and a september saint could end with a seat, your seat
If that is the case then the system sucks and serious thought will be given to cancelling all future memberships, seating,
Raffle tickets returned unsold
Treat members like sh..t and expect to be treated the same in return
$3000 a year in this case will be lost to the club

This is incorrect, The only randomisation is the order the member is drawn. The ticket allocation is best available, so if you are first drawn you get the best seat available. A September Saint will not get a seat ahead of a SC member. This has been verified by the clubs membership dept. So unless you are in the last 5% of members drawn you will get a seat

[3rd generation saint]

Actually, I think the 1,000 tickets for the corporate packages game out of the series tickets allocated to the club, not the allocation for Grand Final seats.
That's why all clubs have Grand Final Packages to sell, so that still leaves the full 12,500 allocation to the club.
As I said before, I don't blame the club, they are working with the miserly offerings the AFL gives them, though I do congratulate them on giving those Social Club members every opportunity to attend the game.

[matrix]

So let me get this straight.

We have 11,500 SC members which 90% have registered for GF tickets

this equals 10,350 registrations.

We have 12,500 allocated tickets of which there are 1,000 standing room tickets

this leaves 11,500 seated tickets

If the 1,000 $1300 packages take seats

this leaves 10,500 seated tickets for SC members.

considering only 10,350 (90% of 11,500 SC members) have registered, this means

1) All 10,350 SC registered members get seated tickets
2) 1000 $1300 package holders get seated tickets

leaving

1) 150 seated tickets for September Saints
2) 1000 Standing room for Sept Saints etc.

All assuming, of course the SC 90% registration is the correct figure.

You are working this out on the basis that the seats will be drawn first in the ballot then the standing room last.
From this thread and previous threads and what is inferred in the letter is that the seated tickets and the standing room tickets will be mixed in the ballot i.e. 1st ticket out could be standing room and if you are drawn out for that ticket and you excluded standing tickets then you are out of the ballot. full stop
No ticket for you.
That means you don't get to go and a september saint could end with a seat, your seat
If that is the case then the system sucks and serious thought will be given to cancelling all future memberships, seating,
Raffle tickets returned unsold
Treat members like sh..t and expect to be treated the same in return
$3000 a year in this case will be lost to the club

This is incorrect, The only randomisation is the order the member is drawn. The ticket allocation is best available, so if you are first drawn you get the best seat available. A September Saint will not get a seat ahead of a SC member. This has been verified by the clubs membership dept. So unless you are in the last 5% of members drawn you will get a seat

at last some clarity
thanks for that

[ausfatcat]

Actually, I think the 1,000 tickets for the corporate packages game out of the series tickets allocated to the club, not the allocation for Grand Final seats.
That's why all clubs have Grand Final Packages to sell, so that still leaves the full 12,500 allocation to the club.
As I said before, I don't blame the club, they are working with the miserly offerings the AFL gives them, though I do congratulate them on giving those Social Club members every opportunity to attend the game.

No WE HAVE 11500 TICKETS ONLY FFS. The social club was limited to 11500 only 2 months ago because that is the amount of tickets allocate to competing club members, (and the only ticket figure that means anything for us).

1000 tickets is the normal allocation to every club that is used for players, employeess and the packages for every club. Hense why different packages and costs for every club with their offering of packages.

[noblejohn]

yup Ice
and IF it is randam in drawing IE: it pulls out a standing room for the first one out the hat and then pulls out say fred bloggs group of 8 people and they have ticked EXCLUDING standing room....then they get nothingm=, and thats the first one pulled!!!

hopefully its how peeps said it should be
better tickets first then middle then gen then stand....hopefully

And no-one in a position of authority, knowledge seems to be able to clarify how the system will operate, not even the clubs involved ??? .
Thats progress for you
Lets get back to the system of queuing up for seats, That way if you has x number of members and X + 1 seats then you got a seat

[ausfatcat]

Noble see the other posts above it has been officially stated by the Ben Hall. It's best available not RANDOM. Don't panic and actually read what has been said officially not people jumping posts where people are guessing.

[3rd generation saint]

Ausfacat, in today's HeraldSun, it was indicated that the competing clubs will have an equal share of 25,000 seats, that is 12,500 each.
It also stated that 16,000 seats are allocated to all clubs (1,000 seats each) for them to use for their corporate packages.
Yes you are right regarding that the social club is limited to 11,500, which means the club is ensuring that out of it's 12,500 seats, 11,500 go to SC members, the other 1,000 will be used for players, officials etc.
Anyway, that's my read on it, all I know is that I registered last week as Social Club member, and if we win tomorrow I will be sitting or standing at the MCG for the Grand Final.
Good luck with your application, hope all on this site get to go.

[noblejohn]

I am glad (hopeing) that the situation has been worked out as per maddogs and fatcats posts although the letter is ambiguous.
A few figures, with regards to seats available and the number of members registering, from the club and and a simple statement that all members who requested a seat will get a seat wouldn't go astray
You can't tell me they don't have these figures by now.

[noblejohn]

and from
http://www.saints.com.au/finals%20infor ... fault.aspx
the following paragraph

There will be no option to choose seats, tickets will be allocated on a best available basis from the highest price seating through to the lowest price. When registering, members can elect to accept standing room should these be the only tickets available when you application is reached. This applies to all barcodes registered in the transaction.

cheers

[ausfatcat]

Ausfacat, in today's HeraldSun, it was indicated that the competing clubs will have an equal share of 25,000 seats, that is 12,500 each.

Which is the 11,500 for competing club members and 1000 for the standard club allocation. ONLY 11,500 for us, The other 1000 is the packages, player family ect ect.

[perfectionist]

I think there might be two lots of "1000" set aside.

The first lot distributed, was 1000 to all clubs. The StKFC decided to distribute them thus:

Members 0
Coterie Groups 20
Corporate Suite Holders 0
Corporate Functions 800
On-Sellers 0
Sponsors 150
Staff/Players/Directors etc 30
Club Promotions/Raffles 0
TOTAL 1000

It is suggested that some of the 12,500 for competing clubs is also going to be creamed off, although it shouldn't because the AFL has said that it for "members", not "clubs".

[plugger66]

I think there might be two lots of "1000" set aside.

The first lot distributed, was 1000 to all clubs. The StKFC decided to distribute them thus:

Members 0
Coterie Groups 20
Corporate Suite Holders 0
Corporate Functions 800
On-Sellers 0
Sponsors 150
Staff/Players/Directors etc 30
Club Promotions/Raffles 0
TOTAL 1000

It is suggested that some of the 12,500 for competing clubs is also going to be creamed off, although it shouldn't because the AFL has said that it for "members", not "clubs".

i think some of the 1000 will go to the club. Have a feeling 30 will not be enough if we make it. i would say at least 500 to the club.

[mordi]

Latest update from Ben Hall..... in response to my query that the issue is causing stress to a lot of supporters, he wrote:

I don’t know about a lot of supporters but I can now tell you that about 15% of our 11,500 allocation is standing room. I can also tell you that over 93% of our Social Club registered which is the highest the AFL have ever had in a Priority 1 group and well above the AFL average.

As the radomisation does not occur until we get in we wont know who actually has been given a seat or not until the weekend.

Cheers,

Ben Hall
General Manager - Fan Development
St Kilda Football Club

[matrix]

ok someone do the math then

[ausfatcat]

ok someone do the math then

10695 Sc tickets registered for

9775 seat tickets

920 SC members standing

and 805 standing tickets for the 1100 September saints. Damn was convincing myself I was OK for a ticket for a while. Oh well a 73% is better than nothing.

[ausfatcat]

I think there might be two lots of "1000" set aside.

No their isn't, it's the Heraldsun FFS they counted the normal 1000 allocation to clubs in the total figure. As stated many times over 11,500 is the allocation from the AFL for club members. The saints cannot onsell any of these to packages.