Another GT "Gem"... I agree 100%!

[matrix]

[SENsei]

Phil - 31

[saintsRrising]

So you despise GT for lying about his appointment process?

Yes. Not him as such, but the lying I do.

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So straight from the horses mouth...

So RF despises the lying he does himself???

Glad we have that ALL sorted now.


Marvelous stuff you get when you just pick out fragments RF style to post on rather than the spirit of a reply.....

[matrix]

Phil - 31

[rodgerfox]

So RF now that you are quoting me in full and not an altered half a sentence...............

Your pathetic lies are laughable.

First you lie about something you say I STATED, which I didn't.

Then you lie about me altering a quote.


Then when I post the entire quote, which shows clearly, that I didn't alter anything, you claim again that I've altered it!!


The weakness displayed by lying to weasel out of something, is only surpassed by the patheticness of not admitting you're a liar - but instead spinning more lies.

[saintsRrising]

So RF now that you are quoting me in full and not an altered half a sentence...............

Your pathetic lies are laughable.

First you lie about something you say I STATED, which I didn't.

Then you lie about me altering a quote.


Then when I post the entire quote, which shows clearly, that I didn't alter anything, you claim again that I've altered it!!


The weakness displayed by lieing to weasel out of something, is only surpassed by the patheticness of not admitting you're a liar - but instead spinning more lies.

Sory RF I have just adopted your posting style. You are not getting frustrated by it are you?

I mean do unto others...and all that....

As to you altering my quote..well that is there for all to see...

[rodgerfox]

So RF now that you are quoting me in full and not an altered half a sentence...............

Your pathetic lies are laughable.

First you lie about something you say I STATED, which I didn't.

Then you lie about me altering a quote.


Then when I post the entire quote, which shows clearly, that I didn't alter anything, you claim again that I've altered it!!


The weakness displayed by lieing to weasel out of something, is only surpassed by the patheticness of not admitting you're a liar - but instead spinning more lies.

Sory RF I have just adopted your posting style. You are not getting frustrated by it are you?

I mean do unto others...and all that....

As to you altering my quote..well that is there for all to see...

You're a liar.

I don't get frustrated by liars - I pity them in some cases, and frown upon in other cases.

It's weak, and you have it in spades.

[saintsRrising]

I don't get frustrated by liars - I pity them in some cases, and frown upon in other cases.

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So do you frown at, or pity GT...or does he get both from you?

[rodgerfox]

I don't get frustrated by liars - I pity them in some cases, and frown upon in other cases.

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So do you frown at, or pity GT...or does he get both from you?

Pretty insipid attempt to deflect from being shown up clearly as a habitual, weak liar.

But to answer your question - I frowned at GT's lies. But in a sense there is pity because I understand the reasoning behind their lies.
Having said that, I haven't given his lies much thought for the past 2 years. Why would I?

Ross Lyon would be a better case to throw up. Looks reporters in the eyes and lies. Looks down the barrel of a camera to loyal lifelong supporters and tells them lies.

It's a sickening trait, one which I'm sure you're actually embarrassed that you posess - but in football terms I can understand the reasons for doing it in some cases.

[matrix]

[saintsRrising]

Ross Lyon would be a better case to throw up. Looks reporters in the eyes and lies. Looks down the barrel of a camera to loyal lifelong supporters and tells them lies.

It's a sickening trait, one .

So Ross Lyon sickens you?

[rodgerfox]

Ross Lyon would be a better case to throw up. Looks reporters in the eyes and lies. Looks down the barrel of a camera to loyal lifelong supporters and tells them lies.

It's a sickening trait, one .

So Ross Lyon sickens you?

No, I like Ross Lyon.

I've had a beer with him and he's a nice guy. I've said that 1000 times.

[The Fireman]

[matrix]

[saintsRrising]

. I've said that 1000 times.

1000 times eh.

Now you would not be lying there RF? I meanwhat you wrote has to be 100.00% correct does it not?

Exactly 1000 times.

Handy that you keep score.

Otherwise you would be lying and then would have to either frown at yourself or pity yourself.

I mean it was only the 998th time you would be lying...

[cowboy18]

that's old school firey. Need the big guns here.

[rodgerfox]

. I've said that 1000 times.

1000 times eh.

Now you would not be lying there RF? I meanwhat you wrote has to be 100.00% correct does it not?

Exactly 1000 times.

Handy that you keep score.

Otherwise you would be lying and then would have to either frown at yourself or pity yourself.

I mean it was only the 998th time you would be lying...

Oh dear.

RodgerFox - 1000
SrR - 0


Is that your 'get out' is it?

Pretty weak. Even for you.

[Milton66]

I don't get frustrated by liars - I pity them in some cases, and frown upon in other cases.

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So do you frown at, or pity GT...or does he get both from you?

Pretty insipid attempt to deflect from being shown up clearly as a habitual, weak liar.

But to answer your question - I frowned at GT's lies. But in a sense there is pity because I understand the reasoning behind their lies.
Having said that, I haven't given his lies much thought for the past 2 years. Why would I?

Ross Lyon would be a better case to throw up. Looks reporters in the eyes and lies. Looks down the barrel of a camera to loyal lifelong supporters and tells them lies.

It's a sickening trait, one which I'm sure you're actually embarrassed that you posess - but in football terms I can understand the reasons for doing it in some cases.

So you pity Ross Lyon because you can understand his reasons?

Another question you haven't answered is if you've never lied before...

[rodgerfox]

So you pity Ross Lyon because you can understand his reasons?

Yeah, to a point.

He lies for the greater good. Not neccessarily for his own causes or gain.

[The Fireman]

that's old school firey. Need the big guns here.

The both of them would be challenged although it would make a fantastic case study for them.

[The Fireman]

Clear the decks folks, it is going to get nasty around here.

[Milton66]

So you pity Ross Lyon because you can understand his reasons?

Yeah, to a point.

He lies for the greater good. Not neccessarily for his own causes or gain.

lol... as oposed to GT.

Both he and RB simply should have come out and said that they thought it would be better to simply appoint GT.

[rodgerfox]

lol... as oposed to GT.

Both he and RB simply should have come out and said that they thought it would be better to simply appoint GT.

Not at all.

They didn't do it for their gain - they did it for the good of the club, in their view. The footy public doesn't comprehend, or accept, 2 dudes rocking up and doing things their own way.

I firmly believe they did it for the greater good. And in hindsight, I definately think they were right.

[matrix]

im calling in the big guns



this dude has a NES PowerGlove!!
look the F*** out

[joffaboy]

Did I post this?

you are stating that ALL posters wrote about GT going at the time that supported the sacking.

And I did not post what you have "quoted" either RF.

Now you will note how RF has quoted the above with a FULL STOP after sacking.....neatly ingoring the remainder of the actual sentence....and the next sentence too which gives it context.

The INSERTING of a the full stop being clear evidence that RF has deliberating chosen to fabricate...

Oh RF, SrR stated categorically that you puncuated the quote of his, thereby changing it.

Are you willing for SrR to reprint the whole quote and show everyone here that you mislead with the changed quote?

No need. I'll do it....

No Morphing Rodge.....or at least about what was said.

What has morphed is what you are stating that ALL posters wrote about GT going at the time that supported the sacking.

While one or two posters may have stated that all we needed was new coach...it does not alter that posters such as myself and OWTS made detailed posts to full range of deficicinies at the time.

The new coach was just one of a number of issues that needed to be rectified in changing from the outmoded GT Football Department to a New Modern Football Department.

One amongst them was that what had been a great list was being degraded...and many flaws had developed under GT with the trend being further decline.

Recruiting..player development...rookies...player conditioning...match day tactics....list management and other aspects were all detailed at the time as reason why GT & his outmoded Dictatorship ofa Football Department had to go.


Time has proven this asa wise move...and if the Saints had not changed we would be way behind where we are now.

Under the new football deapartment there is not one facet that has not improved, except for say the drafting of kids which is about the same:

* Match day coaching
* Player managenent (no more 5 year contracts biting us on the bum...or going over on the salary cap so that we have to play witha list short of the maximum

* From dud trades to being the best traders in the AFL
* From bad blood with our VFL Affilaite to smooth sailing where our players are now able to be played where the saints want them to be to develop them properly

* From not finding one rookie in the GT reign to now having several as core players in our best 22 (this euqals greater depth and more talent in your 22)

We have goone fromalist in decline...toa list now bursting with depth.

we have gone fromna team of downhill skiers good on the burst but with no stamina to deliver, toa four quarter disciplined team.


You wrongly try (as no doubt as a deliberate tactic) and make the posts of one or two as being the content of all who posted that GT going was the right call.

The long list of GT flaws were detailed back then...and have not changed.

It is about time you had the balls to actually write specifically which poster you are talking about.

I didn't change a single character. He's a liar, and has been for some time.

Sorry SrR, I dont see where RF has inserted a full stop. He has left out the first part of the sentance, and didn't quote the second sentance for context, but the full stop was never inserted.