RL & Saints in Hun - 2 spots up for grabs

fingers · Post: # 821062Post **fingers** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 3:41pm

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 5774869399

ROSS Lyon says two places are up for grabs in St Kildas team for Friday nights preliminary final against the Bulldogs.

While St Kilda has no injury concerns, Lyon said the Dogsâ€™ pace might force a change to the side that beat Collingwood in the qualifying final.

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"There is definitely one (spot) up in the air maybe two. We have to look at how many runners theyâ€™ve got,â€

fingers · Post: # 821063Post **fingers** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 3:42pm

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St Chris · Post: # 821065Post **St Chris** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 3:55pm

So who's in the gun???

Ball maybe??
Dawson??
Eddy??

I'd say Max for Dawson will be looked at, based purely on match-ups, not sentiment.

Eddy is a runner, but a speed freak, he ain't.

Ball came in handy for the 'Pies, but maybe the coaches think guys like Hayes, CJ, Joey and McQualter can cover the Dogs in the packs...

Who knows. Smarter people than me are employed to make these decisions, and i certainly don't envy them...

matrix · Post: # 821075Post **matrix** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 4:15pm

max not quick enough..?
correct
to play on a midfielder
but def quick enough to take a fast forward

will be interesting to see the two sides this week....i have tomorrow off too so theres no waiting around till bloody past 11pm when i usually get to see teamsheets

good luck all
go the farking sainters!!!

we'll pump the dogs
5 goal

SainterK · Post: # 821077Post **SainterK** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 4:20pm

Maybe there is something in Gardiner's hamstring, they may bring in Ben if he not 100% right?

Bernard Shakey · Wed 16 Sep 2009 4:26pm

ohwhenthesaints! wrote:Maybe there is something in Gardiner's hamstring, they may bring in Ben if he not 100% right?

Won't improve pace if McEvoy comes in nor Max.

I'll go for no change.

S.A Saint · Post: # 821083Post **S.A Saint** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 4:26pm

hmmm tough decision regarding selections this week....have a gut feeling that eddy might be out for geary who is a bit quicker and can find the footy...

last time he played the dogs he had 24 disposals 9K 15H 8M and 4 tackles

SainterK · Post: # 821086Post **SainterK** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 4:28pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:
ohwhenthesaints! wrote:Maybe there is something in Gardiner's hamstring, they may bring in Ben if he not 100% right?
Won't improve pace if McEvoy comes in nor Max.

I'll go for no change.

What if Gardiner didn't come up 100%...you would just have King in the ruck then?

Milton66 · Post: # 821087Post **Milton66** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 4:32pm

Max and Dempster. I agree with the Ex. Big game experience.

Gardiner could be the obvious... hope we're wrong.

BringBackMadDog · Wed 16 Sep 2009 4:36pm

Milton66 wrote:Max and Dempster. I agree with the Ex. Big game experience.

Gardiner could be the obvious... hope we're wrong.

On the HUN website, there is a video interview with RL. Reporter asked about Gards, RL said that the website wasn't updated from last week blamed the media manager who was in the room at the time!!

Gards will play

SainterK · Post: # 821092Post **SainterK** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 4:38pm

BringBackMadDog wrote:
Milton66 wrote:Max and Dempster. I agree with the Ex. Big game experience.

Gardiner could be the obvious... hope we're wrong.
On the HUN website, there is a video interview with RL. Reporter asked about Gards, RL said that the website wasn't updated from last week blamed the media manager who was in the room at the time!!

Gards will play

Phew, that's a relief....I was preparing myself for the worst!

The doggies won't know what's hit em

gosaints · Post: # 821095Post **gosaints** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 4:41pm

The way the article reads it would seem to me that Bally's spot is the one in doubt.
I'd hate to see him dropped but I can't think of anyone else who would make way for more run. He won't drop any of the big blokes and you'd think the guys in the backline are safe.
Out of all our mids Bally is probably the worst runner. Geez i hope not.

BringBackMadDog · Wed 16 Sep 2009 4:46pm

gosaints wrote:The way the article reads it would seem to me that Bally's spot is the one in doubt.
I'd hate to see him dropped but I can't think of anyone else who would make way for more run. He won't drop any of the big blokes and you'd think the guys in the backline are safe.
Out of all our mids Bally is probably the worst runner. Geez i hope not.

Last time I check Bally was a runner!! Not sure there are any better running options not in the side currently. You would think that the options to come in are Geary, Armo, Dempster and Max. None of those are better options than Ball. Besides we need his toughness and clearance ability to counter the key to the Doggies, Cross and Boyd. If we control the clearances we win, simple!!

Maybe they are re-thinking the need for the two ruckmen??

gosaints · Post: # 821135Post **gosaints** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 5:32pm

BringBackMadDog wrote: Last time I check Bally was a runner!! Not sure there are any better running options not in the side currently. You would think that the options to come in are Geary, Armo, Dempster and Max. None of those are better options than Ball. Besides we need his toughness and clearance ability to counter the key to the Doggies, Cross and Boyd. If we control their clearances we win, simple!!

Maybe they are re-thinking the need for the two ruckmen??

Mate for the most part I totally agree with you. I will be gutted if Bally got the chop and I agree that Bally is a much better footballer than those not in the side.
But as a runner, I would think that the coaching staff would have Geary and Dempster ahead of him atleast. I might not agree with it but i'm not at the club every day working with them.
I've heard Ross Lyon say how much he rates Dempster's running and fitness and also Geary's running ability.
On top of that, Bally has been dropped in the past [supposedly] for his ability to run, spread from the contest and create.
I hope it doesn't happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is one of the selection headaches the selection commitee is dealing with.

Teflon · Post: # 821188Post **Teflon** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 6:33pm

Dogs gearing them selves up to win tough contested footy....say they have lost that area to us in past....Ball I wouldve thought would be crucial.

Dan Warna · Post: # 821197Post **Dan Warna** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 6:40pm

at various stages baker, ball amongst others were 'finished' for the year.

i now trust RLs judgement.

St Loxton · Post: # 821218Post **St Loxton** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 7:01pm

Teflon wrote:Dogs gearing them selves up to win tough contested footy....say they have lost that area to us in past....Ball I wouldve thought would be crucial.

Totally agree. We need his hardness

bergholt · Post: # 821230Post **bergholt** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 7:15pm

Teflon wrote:Dogs gearing them selves up to win tough contested footy....say they have lost that area to us in past....Ball I wouldve thought would be crucial.

Agreed. We'll win it by winning the contested footy consistently. If we're worried about pace then sure, bring Eljay in for Kosi. But even doing that won't be enough to make up the disadvantage. On the other hand, if they don't get the ball, then their pace doesn't matter so much - no-one can outrun the speed of a kick.

claystreet · Post: # 821260Post **claystreet** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 8:18pm

Raph moved forward Max in to the back line means a forward needs to be chopped, maybe a HFF

d roit · Post: # 821275Post **d roit** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 8:42pm

I think Eddy might be the only one who is up for consideration this week, if that at all.

Ball will 100% play this week, he is absolutely crucial in winning contested possessions at the clearances. Heed my word, if the dogs win the clearances, our full-court press, frontal pressure or whatever, will be rendered useless.

Friday night will be won in the middle, and Ball will be instrumental in making that happen.

meher baba · Post: # 821346Post **meher baba** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 9:45pm

When Lyon talks "runner" I think he means "run with" players rather than speedsters.

In that case, I would expect Dempster to come in for someone: either Ball or Raph.

Dempster is slow, as is Eddy and having both of them in a team playing the Dogs would be an error IMO.

So I hope I'm totally wrong.

Stephen Theodore · Wed 16 Sep 2009 9:47pm

NO CHANGE

matrix · Post: # 821511Post **matrix** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 4:20am

just submit the bench with seven names

always love that one

when does the final 22 have to actually be decided by and shown to the opp?

karnaby · Post: # 821518Post **karnaby** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 7:37am

My stab in the dark, Geary in as a late change for Zac, as it addresses the 'horses for courses' arguement.

Ghost Like · Post: # 821542Post **Ghost Like** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 9:34am

matrixcutter wrote:just submit the bench with seven names
always love that one

when does the final 22 have to actually be decided by and shown to the opp?

I think it's 30 min before the bounce.