John Greening

Gainzo · Post: # 808450Post **Gainzo** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 2:43pm

Collingwood supporters really need to get a life as they are fixated on a king hit that occurred in 1972.

http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopi ... sc&start=0

I've never seen a Collingwood player take some one out behind play

I wasn't even born back then but most of those idiot pies supporters think the Saints are scum.

matrix · Post: # 808454Post **matrix** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 2:50pm

yeah i read that yesterday after checking the cheersquad end debacle in their General Area

i think they hate us more for the Greening incident than they do for 1966

i actually think the incident was disgusting by the way
the bloke was in and out of a coma for a bit there
but u cant change history
either forgive or dont i guess

Solar · Post: # 808458Post **Solar** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 2:53pm

It is an interesting argument and if you want to not allow a player into a hall of fame because of one incident then the likes of matthews would never have made any honours board.

thejiggingsaint · Tue 01 Sep 2009 2:54pm

cant disagree with that matrix. Footy fans are a pretty unforgiving bunch though and I'm sure we have a few grudges being harboured among our group too. I reckon its wasted energy meself, but hell! let 'em waste it as far as I'm concerned if thats how they feel.

matrix · Post: # 808465Post **matrix** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:01pm

good call jiggy
too right about LM too..he wasnt exactly clean.
thats footy....

degruch · Post: # 808469Post **degruch** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:06pm

Solar wrote:It is an interesting argument and if you want to not allow a player into a hall of fame because of one incident then the likes of matthews would never have made any honours board.

Exactly. Whilst there's nothing to love about the 1972 incident, if we were to tally up the amount of dog acts committed by individuals within teams over the years, who would be on top? More to the point, who would really care? Only someone petty. Should we all hate Richmond because Geoff Raines KO'd Super Doop 30 years ago? Pfffft. Does anyone (apart from me) even remember it?

Hate all you want Magpie Greg, remember what doesn't kill you will make you stronger, when you're blubbing into your beer Sunday evening.

thejiggingsaint · Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:08pm

I was not in australia when the Greening incident occurred but from all the anecdotal evidence I've heard it was not something that we should be proud of. Having said that, every club has its share of low dog acts during the course of their history (it wasn't ALL that long ago that I saw Bazza deliver a cheap punch in the guts to one of the Johnson Bros) There is ABSOLUTELY NO strength to the argument that being on OUR side makes a low dog act any less of a disgrace ...at least to decent fair-minded people.
Its time for the Magpies to either forgive and forget, or just get on with life!

matrix · Post: # 808472Post **matrix** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:08pm

degruch wrote:[Hate all you want Magpie Greg, remember what doesn't kill you will make you stronger, when you're blubbing into your beer Sunday evening.

hahahaha

Animal Enclosure · Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:10pm

I'm sure the Filth supporters posting about Greening are the same ones defending Dane Swan for kicking & punching a defenceless man.

Filth by name, Filth by nature

Thinline · Post: # 808476Post **Thinline** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:10pm

Animal Enclosure wrote:I'm sure the Filth supporters posting about Greening are the same ones defending Dane Swan for kicking & punching a defenceless man.

Filth by name, Filth by nature

A somewhat valid point.

degruch · Post: # 808477Post **degruch** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:12pm

Thinline wrote:
Animal Enclosure wrote:I'm sure the Filth supporters posting about Greening are the same ones defending Dane Swan for kicking & punching a defenceless man.

Filth by name, Filth by nature
A somewhat valid point.

Are you kidding? Everyone knows The Cleaners are the dirtiest team around...they've had it coming to them for years.

thejiggingsaint · Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:17pm

read the thread from the magpies site. Holy Jay-sus! there are some hypocrites in this world! Coming from some of the most feral barrackers known to man or beast their rants are rich!

Mr Magic · Post: # 808498Post **Mr Magic** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:31pm

Animal Enclosure wrote:I'm sure the Filth supporters posting about Greening are the same ones defending Dane Swan for kicking & punching a defenceless man.

Filth by name, Filth by nature

And 'creaming' themselves on a daily basis over a current player who could arguably be held partially responsible for the death of an innocent bystander in Melbourne CBD.

Milan Faletic · Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:33pm

thejiggingsaint wrote:read the thread from the magpies site. Holy Jay-sus! there are some hypocrites in this world! Coming from some of the most feral barrackers known to man or beast their rants are rich!

If the best they can come up with is John Greening, I pity the fools!

Just a lot of jibber jabber.

It was the 2nd game I ever went to and the image is embedded on my brain. It was bad, no doubt about it. However, it was alleged that he had taken concussion in to the game from a car accident that week so he was susceptible to head trauma.

Let's talk about the Nicky Winmar game. How does Leon Davis and crew feel about their lovely supporters?

bigred · Post: # 808506Post **bigred** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:39pm

I read that thread last night...

I lol'd.

Meaningless drivel from some rather ordinary characters.

Meh, who gives a toss, they could say some of the same about us.

I still hate Buddah Hocking for his filthy dogs act on Banger a few years back.

Thinline · Post: # 808509Post **Thinline** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 3:41pm

O'Dea's was a dog act, no doubt. Not St K's finest moment by any stretch. But for sweet jesus sake it was nearly forty years ago. Clarkson/Aitken; Bruns/Matthews; Hall/Saker; Lloyd/Sewell (?); that little dweeb who clobbered Dermie in the 89 GF. I mean there's so many acts of blatant thuggery each season that quite frankly for a club to be harping on forty years after is really pathetic. Harden the F*** up, I say.

The Sainter · Tue 01 Sep 2009 4:12pm

If they want to live in the past what about what happened to Essendon's Somerville in the 1965 Final against the Pies. It was exactly the same thing that happened to Greening against us.
As for football thugs Leigh Matthews was the worst i've even seen. One of the greatest players of all time he continually crashed his elbow into the face of opposing players who never had the ball and were defenceless targets usually knocking them completely out. Saint coach Alan Jeans had to be restrained from going onto the ground once after Matthews did it to a Saint player in a final plus Barassi as coach of North remarked what a cowardly act it was by Matthews after he did the same thing to Keith Greig also in a final. Brilliant footballer certainly but often a mongrel act when it was not necessary.

St DAC · Post: # 808543Post **St DAC** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 4:21pm

All clubs have unsavoury incidents from their pasts. That was just another one in an era where they were commonplace, sadly. The consequences were severe and undeserved for a fine young player, but I doubt that level of consequence was intended.

O'Dea has and will carry that stigma (and we as a club will also) but one dog act in many years of service to our club is not the entirety of it. He is honoured for his long service, not that act.

On the whole it was a sad, tawdry incident; thankfully, one unlikely to be repeated in today's more enlightened times.

degruch · Post: # 808546Post **degruch** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 4:27pm

St DAC wrote:On the whole it was a sad, tawdry incident; thankfully, one unlikely to be repeated in today's more enlightened times.

...at least if Cameron Ling can spot Dean Solomon in his peripheral vision from now on!

perfectionist · Tue 01 Sep 2009 4:30pm

There were 30,451 people at Moorabbin that day, but about 50,000 now claim to have seen it. I did not see the incident. I spoke with a relative at the club who was on the bench and who did. It's a story about "personal" sledging, player over-reaction, a careless forearm, the interaction of a player's head with the hard turf (most unusual for Moorabbin at that time of year, July) and tragic consequences. It is not a story about an innocent baby maliciously struck down.

This story seems to get an annual revival, and as often happens, it gets more and more embellished as time goes by.

At the time we were 2nd on the ladder and a win would have sent us to the top. We lost that game and 4 of the next 5, and although we made the finals, we would have to win from 4th position, almost impossible then as there was a real advantage to finishing on top (alas, no more).

The Fireman · Tue 01 Sep 2009 4:43pm

Of course the Skunks will bring greening up, they are dumb, ground hog day is a major part of their lives, toothless dimwits masquerading as football supporters .
Every game we play them they will bring it up, let them and then stick it right up'em.
The skunks must go down, the whole of Australia is willing us to do it.

Johnny Utah · Tue 01 Sep 2009 4:47pm

The Sainter wrote:If they want to live in the past what about what happened to Essendon's Somerville in the 1965 Final against the Pies.

The player who committed the Somerville hit was banished from the club, told to pack his bags & never played for the club again. Jim O'Dea was hailed as a hero & was awarded with inclusion to your HOF.

A slight difference.

matrix · Post: # 808561Post **matrix** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 4:50pm

degruch · Post: # 808562Post **degruch** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 4:51pm

Johnny Utah wrote:
The Sainter wrote:If they want to live in the past what about what happened to Essendon's Somerville in the 1965 Final against the Pies.
The player who committed the Somerville hit was banished from the club, told to pack his bags & never played for the club again. Jim O'Dea was hailed as a hero & was awarded with inclusion to your HOF.

A slight difference.

Is that still club policy over there? Might be a few missing from (a) your hall of fame, and (b) this weekend's game!

Thinline · Post: # 808564Post **Thinline** » Tue 01 Sep 2009 4:54pm

Johnny Utah wrote:
The Sainter wrote:If they want to live in the past what about what happened to Essendon's Somerville in the 1965 Final against the Pies.
The player who committed the Somerville hit was banished from the club, told to pack his bags & never played for the club again. Jim O'Dea was hailed as a hero & was awarded with inclusion to your HOF.

A slight difference.

Listen, you cretinous dirty bird...

1 O'Dea played more than one game. He played 167 in fact. Or did you not realise?

2 As awful as the strike behind play was you might as well be wagging your finger at the Moorabbin Oval cricket pitch.

3 The account of the incident on Wiki compares Greening to Robert Harvey - aaaaah the sweet and undeniable irony.

4 Dane Swan - your thoughts?

5 Now bugger off.