Luke Ball MMM rumour

desertsaint · Sat 25 Jul 2009 4:28pm

claystreet wrote:Yep a bit pathetic guys trading Bally over a rumour

spot on - i'm more than a little bemused by some of the above posts.

Sainterman · Post: # 781922Post **Sainterman** » Sat 25 Jul 2009 4:35pm

Always going to be a rumour like this one as soon as he was dropped. How about this for a rumour...he will go back to the 2's, work on the things he has been asked to, come back and play a big part in the September action.

He has many good mates that he has been with at the Saints for many years, is a former club captain, and still a big part of the future.

Talk of what trade we can do is disrespectful.

He will be back and better than ever!

bobmurray · Post: # 781934Post **bobmurray** » Sat 25 Jul 2009 5:13pm

Brian Taylor probably thinks he's still filming a commercial...

"get out there and deal".....

he had the slogan..he needed a subject...

What do you expect from a plumber.......intelligence.....

plugger66 · Post: # 781965Post **plugger66** » Sat 25 Jul 2009 7:51pm

I dont think he will go anywhere and BT was having a bit of fun. Who cares but lets be honest we will probably lose a player or 2 and footy is serious business know so if a player wants out you must look at what you lose and what you receive. If Bally left at the moment we are losing a seconds player on maybe 600k a year.

saynta · Post: # 782077Post **saynta** » Sat 25 Jul 2009 11:05pm

plugger66 wrote:I dont think he will go anywhere and BT was having a bit of fun. Who cares but lets be honest we will probably lose a player or 2 and footy is serious business know so if a player wants out you must look at what you lose and what you receive. If Bally left at the moment we are losing a seconds player on maybe 600k a year.

A clown like Taylor spews forth nonsense, and on the basis of that rubbish, you belittle a Saints champion. Charming, I don't think.

saintly_safes · Sat 25 Jul 2009 11:11pm

If I was Luke Ball I would be pissed off that raph ,eddy ,gwilt even mcqualter got a gig before before him when he is way better no matter what the assignment but imo i think its a big kick in the guts

degruch · Post: # 782082Post **degruch** » Sat 25 Jul 2009 11:25pm

saintly_safes wrote:If I was Luke Ball I would be pissed off that raph ,eddy ,gwilt even mcqualter got a gig before before him when he is way better no matter what the assignment but imo i think its a big kick in the guts

On recent form, he's not as good as any of the above, which is why he wasn't on the park tonight. It is a kick in the guts, it's supposed to be.

Sounds like a bulls*** rumour though...I guess being dropped was one of the reasons NDS was traded to Essendon and Milney was delisted at the end of last season.

Munga · Post: # 782089Post **Munga** » Sat 25 Jul 2009 11:38pm

Sounds like BT trying to upset the club.

VietNam_Saint · Sat 25 Jul 2009 11:42pm

Breaking news tomorrow by Hutchy !!!!!!!!!!!! yawn

Ball to be offered a two year deal ,, 600k a year ,,

At home with The Saints.

degruch · Post: # 782098Post **degruch** » Sat 25 Jul 2009 11:43pm

VietNam_Saint wrote:Breaking news tomorrow by Hutchy !!!!!!!!!!!! yawn

Ball to be offered a two year deal ,, 600k a year ,,

At home with The Saints.

BLT wrong?

ausfatcat · Post: # 782109Post **ausfatcat** » Sat 25 Jul 2009 11:52pm

who does hutchy write for anyway?

btw Jon Ralph reported it as the same as hutchy on the 5th quater.

VietNam_Saint · Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:32am

ausfatcat wrote:who does hutchy write for anyway?

btw Jon Ralph reported it as the same as hutchy on the 5th quater.

yeah ,, ralph said ,, the breaking news from Hutchy in the morning will be---

love it ,, havent got the foggiest who hutchy writes for ,, dont read it ,,

Mr Magic · Post: # 782190Post **Mr Magic** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:36am

If Hutchy the Tosser is reporting it as 'fact' then I'm starting to get nervous!

plugger66 · Post: # 782196Post **plugger66** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:42am

saynta wrote:
plugger66 wrote:I dont think he will go anywhere and BT was having a bit of fun. Who cares but lets be honest we will probably lose a player or 2 and footy is serious business know so if a player wants out you must look at what you lose and what you receive. If Bally left at the moment we are losing a seconds player on maybe 600k a year.

A clown like Taylor spews forth nonsense, and on the basis of that rubbish, you belittle a Saints champion. Charming, I don't think.

Sorry you have lost me.

saint75 · Post: # 782319Post **saint75** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 1:40am

claystreet wrote:Yep a bit pathetic guys trading Bally over a rumour

Go back and read what was said. They don't believe the rumour to be true, but if it is, he can go.

VietNam_Saint · Sun 26 Jul 2009 2:56am

Don't argue with an idiot - people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

claystreet · Post: # 782405Post **claystreet** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 8:04am

saint75 wrote:
claystreet wrote:Yep a bit pathetic guys trading Bally over a rumour
Go back and read what was said. They don't believe the rumour to be true, but if it is, he can go.

Just repeated yourself you have bally traded if the rumour is true

ace · Post: # 782413Post **ace** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 8:29am

Quixote wrote:Luke Ball is coming out of contract, has been dropped and will play in the two's this weekend for the first time since... when? He is also a very highly paid player, who will more than likely have to take a pay cut on his next contract.

I expect there will be more of this sort of talk.

HOWEVER -

If I know anything about people, if I've even got one bloody iota of a clue about anything - LUKE BALL WILL NOT LEAVE ST KILDA.

Rumour is, he has been one of the best paid players in the competition, well over half a million.
He is no longer an elite player at St Kilda simply a run of the mill average player.

GIVEN
The salary cap is $7,693,750 for 2009, $7,950,000 for 2010 and $8,212,500 for 2011.
Additional services is $537,00 for 2009, $555,000 for 2010 and $573,000 for 2011.
And minimum player base payment is $62,700 for 2009, $64,700 for 2010, and $66,900 in 2011.
Match payments of 22 players x 22 matches x $2,700 for 2009, $2,800 for 2010 and $2,900 for 2011 = $1,306,800, $1,355,200 and $1,403,600 respectively.

AND Hayes and Baker will be veterans next year.

That means around $6,600,000 base payments and additional services has to be cut between the top 31 players. (Divide by 30 as veterans only count half).
Star players like Riewoldt get considerably more than average.

Ball's base payment should now be under $200,000 around $150,000.
With match payments bringing that to $200,000.
That is having his salary cut by a factor of 3 or if some reports are correct almost 4.

Player Ball and his management can be expected to be very unhappy with the realiity.

BUT it is reality.

How much of the cake would you let him eat?

Dan Warna · Post: # 782424Post **Dan Warna** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 9:43am

ball is an elite player. He's out of form and possibly carrying an injury, but he is an elite player.

now that hutchy has said categorically that he will sign a new contract with st kilda, i'm worried

Gurgman · Post: # 782467Post **Gurgman** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 10:51am

Dan Warna wrote:ball is an elite player. He's out of form and possibly carrying an injury, but he is an elite player.

now that hutchy has said categorically that he will sign a new contract with st kilda, i'm worried

Ball is an elite player !!!!! He is a good player when fit and in form , not elite , Nick is elite .

borderbarry · Sun 26 Jul 2009 11:09am

Kosi, Zac, and MG were sittinh together last night. When I saw them I thought, "Where's Luke Ball?"

degruch · Post: # 782485Post **degruch** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 11:26am

borderbarry wrote:Kosi, Zac, and MG were sittinh together last night. When I saw them I thought, "Where's Luke Ball?"

Yeah, me too. Although, I have seen him sitting in the coaches box before. Who knows, maybe he prefers to go home and watch it on TV.

ace · Post: # 782497Post **ace** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 11:53am

Dan Warna wrote:ball is an elite player. He's out of form and possibly carrying an injury, but he is an elite player.

There is no doubt Ball was an elite player but he has been carrying a permanent groin injury for years now.
He is no longer elite.

Riewoldt, Hayes, Dal Santo, Goddard, Montagna, S. Fisher, Gilbert are the elite players and it is they who should be getting base payments over an above the average.
My assessment of elite means chance of All Australian selection.
You will note that at $150,000 for an average player, I left $2,100,000 extra to be divided up among the elite players.

norwood97 · Post: # 782500Post **norwood97** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:00pm

we don't need ball

matrix · Post: # 782503Post **matrix** » Sun 26 Jul 2009 12:05pm

so is he worth 600 grand???
i mean how much money is enough????

imagine if players actually agreed amongst themselves to be be paid reasonable wages and not ludicrous ones.

hey ace, great post on the caps
if a team didnt use all the salary cap can the cash be used on something else?
or is it specifically ONLY to be used to pay players?