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Post: # 779816Post Eastern »

I would think that if Goose is NOT selected this week his career as a StKilda player might be over. I hope he gets a run, but fear he won't.

Max- Fit = Straight in

Gardi-Fit = Straight in

Bally-Fit = Straight in

Goose ??????????????

Ross is not known for making wholesale changes, especially after a 10 goal win !!


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Post: # 779841Post Richter »

I'd expect that Max would cover for Zac if he is fit. If not Goose will surely get the guernsey.

I'd like to see Lynch given a crack for Kosi. Give the lad a taster of what it is like in the big league. If the coaching staff don't like that idea then Gwilt in for Kosi. Goose as FF? I doubt it, but maybe.


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Post: # 779849Post St Fidelius »

Just how has the goose played in the last month???

Goose cannot play small and the Bulldogs have a relativity small forward set up.

It would be a hard ask for the Goose to play FF against Lake IMO


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Post: # 779881Post rocksolid »

I think Goose may go in if Max isn't right but Lynch a monty to cover Kosi


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St Fidelius wrote:Just how has the goose played in the last month???

Goose cannot play small and the Bulldogs have a relativity small forward set up.

It would be a hard ask for the Goose to play FF against Lake IMO
i agree...would be setting him up for failure...imhfo......


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Post: # 779887Post saintsRrising »

Eastern wrote:
Bally-Fit = Straight in
No....whatever the performance issue is that he was dropped for has to be addressed. It may be that just being dropped was enough..or he may need some gametime with Sandi.


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Post: # 779901Post n1ck »

Not sure Max will be fit. Possible, though.


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Post: # 779910Post Bernard Shakey »

Max looked alright at training today and Goose was with Bally and the Sandy squad.


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Post: # 779918Post mad saint guy »

I'd like to see Goose in this week. I don't really expect him to play finals but I think he's earnt a shot in the seniors to prove his worth. Though I'd be very happy if we saw Lynch get a go as well.


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Post: # 779921Post xander »

stinger wrote:
St Fidelius wrote:Just how has the goose played in the last month???

Goose cannot play small and the Bulldogs have a relativity small forward set up.

It would be a hard ask for the Goose to play FF against Lake IMO
i agree...would be setting him up for failure...imhfo......
who would u suggest plays against lake at FF. with Allen still recovering we dont have many options for KPF at the moment


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xander wrote:
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St Fidelius wrote:Just how has the goose played in the last month???

Goose cannot play small and the Bulldogs have a relativity small forward set up.

It would be a hard ask for the Goose to play FF against Lake IMO
i agree...would be setting him up for failure...imhfo......
who would u suggest plays against lake at FF. with Allen still recovering we dont have many options for KPF at the moment
May I just say definitely not Goose...

To kick off his return to AFL and up against Lake would be a bad call IMO..

To play Goose down back with the Bulldogs small forward set up is also a worry...

I would be tempted to play Milne FF with Scheidner at FP and introduce Lynch on the HHF


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Post: # 779940Post SainterK »

Why is this his one and only chance, unless he gives up on St Kilda?


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Post: # 779941Post Eastern »

ohwhenthesaints! wrote:Why is this his one and only chance, unless he gives up on St Kilda?
You may have answered your own question !!


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Post: # 779946Post xander »

St Fidelius wrote:
xander wrote:
stinger wrote:
St Fidelius wrote:Just how has the goose played in the last month???

Goose cannot play small and the Bulldogs have a relativity small forward set up.

It would be a hard ask for the Goose to play FF against Lake IMO
i agree...would be setting him up for failure...imhfo......
who would u suggest plays against lake at FF. with Allen still recovering we dont have many options for KPF at the moment
May I just say definitely not Goose...

To kick off his return to AFL and up against Lake would be a bad call IMO..

To play Goose down back with the Bulldogs small forward set up is also a worry...

I would be tempted to play Milne FF with Scheidner at FP and introduce Lynch on the HHF
i agree it would be tough to ask goose to go with him but if not goose who would u suggest to go onto lake? He needs to be given someone who can cause some damage in the forward line otherwise he'll just zone off and mark everything. Playing Milne as an FF will not work for the whole game imo, when roo leads up the ground and we only have schinder & milne to kick to it'll be a problem.

Also Goose did seem to play his best footy at sandy when in the forward line so maybe we should give him a tough opponent... and see how well he can cope with it.


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Post: # 779964Post Bernard Shakey »

ohwhenthesaints! wrote:Why is this his one and only chance, unless he gives up on St Kilda?
Because his performances at Sandy this year do not indicate that he is up to AFL footy today.

Unfortunately Goose is not going to be part of a Saints premiership this year.
Apparently he has indicated that he will go elsewhere if not selected by the Saints this year.


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Bernard Shakey wrote:
ohwhenthesaints! wrote:Why is this his one and only chance, unless he gives up on St Kilda?
Because his performances at Sandy this year do not indicate that he is up to AFL footy today.

Unfortunately Goose is not going to be part of a Saints premiership this year.
Apparently he has indicated that he will go elsewhere if not selected by the Saints this year.
I never said this year, I am saying that there will be opportunities if he can be patient....unless he has given up on the club.


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xander wrote:
stinger wrote:
St Fidelius wrote:Just how has the goose played in the last month???

Goose cannot play small and the Bulldogs have a relativity small forward set up.

It would be a hard ask for the Goose to play FF against Lake IMO
i agree...would be setting him up for failure...imhfo......
who would u suggest plays against lake at FF. with Allen still recovering we dont have many options for KPF at the moment

bj...if he can be spared from the on ballers.....


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Post: # 779993Post saint66au »

Im afrid the Doggies forward line is too small and agile for Goose...as is their defence. He'd be more of a chance to play agasint Sydney Id think

I too would love Lynch to get a game....but not as a deep forward. Roo, Lynch, Milne, Schneids, with Gardy drifting forward would test out the Doggies backline I reckon


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mad saint guy wrote:I'd like to see Goose in this week. I don't really expect him to play finals but I think he's earnt a shot in the seniors to prove his worth.
agree. we're missing a strong marking (and not particularly quick) key position player in kosi who is crucial to our structure.

to me goose is eminently qualified as a like-for-like replacement and, without being unfair, wouldn't have to do a lot to better kosi's past two weeks.

i'd actually start him at chf with riewoldt deep and get bj forward quite often as an insurance policy (as we do even when at full strength).

if lake does get goose you can be certain goose will make his presence felt and at the very least it will draw lake away from riewoldt. i'm not sure lake would show gwilt the same respect.

no sledge on jimmy, but i'm not sure that he qualifies as a key position player.
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Eastern wrote:I would think that if Goose is NOT selected this week his career as a StKilda player might be over. I hope he gets a run, but fear he won't.

Max- Fit = Straight in

Gardi-Fit = Straight in

Bally-Fit = Straight in

Goose ??????????????

Ross is not known for making wholesale changes, especially after a 10 goal win !!
How many changes are we making this week....??


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Post: # 780025Post SaintWal »

ohwhenthesaints! wrote:Why is this his one and only chance, unless he gives up on St Kilda?
This could be one of the cruelest trade weeks in history that is coming up. Clubs that have peaked and are potentially on the downward spiral over the next three years will be bargaining hard for good draft picks.

Clubs such as Geelong, Bulldogs, Carlton and especially GC could be willing to trade in this years draft for someone like Matt.

The old St.Kilda in me says hang on to him but maybe that is the problem with "the old St.Kilda"


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bigcarl wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:I'd like to see Goose in this week. I don't really expect him to play finals but I think he's earnt a shot in the seniors to prove his worth.
agree. we're missing a strong marking (and not particularly quick) key position player in kosi who is crucial to our structure.

to me goose is eminently qualified as a like-for-like replacement and, without being unfair, wouldn't have to do a lot to better kosi's past two weeks.

i'd actually start him at chf with riewoldt deep and get bj forward quite often as an insurance policy (as we do even when at full strength).

if lake does get goose you can be certain goose will make his presence felt and at the very least it will draw lake away from riewoldt. i'm not sure lake would show gwilt the same respect.

no sledge on jimmy, but i'm not sure that he qualifies as a key position player.
i agree with this, if goose comes in and only keeps lake accountable this is a win, so reiwoldt can be left to run riot hopefully. If goose chimes in with some goals even more a bonus. You want someone to make lake think about where he is going to run and gwilt is not this person. Players zoned off him like no tomorrow early on in the year. At least with goose if they have no one to kick to they can bomb it and hope he brings it to ground like we hope when kosi is out there giving our smalls an equal opportunity to crumb also.


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Post: # 780168Post Red »

They will want to keep the structure the same, so I'm assuming one of the

ruckmen will stand the goal square. I'm not sure Goose has being as

good in the seconds as people tend to think. I've only seen a couple but

there seems to be good games mixed with average.


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Post: # 780174Post AnythingsPossibleSaints »

Red wrote: I'm not sure Goose has being as

good in the seconds as people tend to think. I've only seen a couple but

there seems to be good games mixed with average.
I was going through some old papers recently and found an interview with Corey McKernan, after he spent most of his last year in the twos. He was saying he loved the big occasion and that he played better the bigger the occasion and crowd. He said he found it hard to get motivated to play well when playing in front of "15-20" people in the VLF.
I also reckon Goose may be a guy who likes the "spotlight"/big occasion (hence his TV appearances, etc). He may also find it hard to get up for games in the VFL, after having spent years in the AFL (including many big finals.) which may explain his ups and downs there this year. But if he was doing well enough to kick 2 bags of 5 and be named BOG in the VFL, I reckon he'd play even better in the AFL, like Corey did. This is why I'd be happy to see him in, to see how he goes back on the "big stage".


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Post: # 780202Post bob__71 »

I think Goose could be a good selection at FF. He may have to be opatient and play primaraly as a decoy to create space.

It may not show up on the stats sheet, but if he does get a chance, he just needs to knuckle down and perform a role for the team.


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