Still no goose

Shades · Post: # 767049Post **Shades** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:04pm

I'm not happy max goes out and we bring in gwilt raph and miles goose IMO is 100* better

Thinline · Post: # 767051Post **Thinline** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:06pm

On what do you base your Goose opinion?

2005?

bendigo bob · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:09pm

its called team balance. we have been too top heavy down back the last couple of games and we need a pacy taller 3rd option up front. gwilt is the man

Shades · Post: # 767056Post **Shades** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:09pm

Thinline wrote:On what do you base your Goose opinion?

2005?

from his form in the vfl And 2005

fingers · Post: # 767057Post **fingers** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:10pm

I don't pretend to get these things....but I don't understand why you wouldn't bring goose in for max.

Can someone help me understand?

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:11pm

Is Matt Maguire's goose cooked??

midas_touch · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:14pm

If this keeps going, i cant see the goose sticking around in 2010. It just seems that there isnt any position that suits him any more.

White Winmar · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:20pm

As much as I hate to admit it, the Goose is cooked. If he didn't get in this week, I doubt he will again this year unless smallpox or similar rages through the club. Max's expected return will only lengthen the queue. Vale Matt Maguire.

Seaford_Saint · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:21pm

Maguire will be a good addition to the Tigers defensive unit next year... in exchange for their 1st round draft pick!!!

sabras · Post: # 767063Post **sabras** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:21pm

i know of at least six clubs who would want him....

at least he will have somewhere to go after this year - although who would he match up on against us?

not
kosi
or roo

so who

bit of tongue in cheek - i love the goose - big contested marks big bombs down the ground - but i guess we do not play that style anymore...

will be gutted but would not be surprised....

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:24pm

I reckon it's got to be a real kick in the guts to Goose, especially to not even be one of the 4 "in's". Very disappointing, like when X Clarke was left out in favour of Eddy, earlier in the year, despite X having been dominating in the VFL in the weeks previous.
I wouldn't blame Goose if he left, as he could go to a club that appreciates him and badly needs someone for CHB or CHF. I reckon he'd really lift if he was playing AFL, as he seems to really like the "big stage"/spotlight. He's probably bored out of his mind and very uninspired in the VFL. It seems like we're going to make the same mistake with him as Hawthorn did with Zac last year.

howlinwolf · Post: # 767067Post **howlinwolf** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:25pm

I'm very happy with our coaching department. It's a proven formula so far
this season.

It's hard to argue this. We all are bewildered by certain decisions at times
but there's a reason we are not on the coaching panel.

That being said it's hard for us to understand Ross saying Goose is there
for when Max may retire in 2010 and yet when Max is injured Goose still
doesn't get a go ?

As usual the club will know better though and hopefully we will win and
the logic will be revealed.

The reason I see is that Geelong has many dangerous small forwards
including Byrnes who after years seems to have found something to hang his hat on.

Add Chapman, Johnson, Varcoe (who I thought was no good last year)
and our defence could have been too tall.

This small and fast attack probably doesn't suit Goose.

howlinwolf · Post: # 767071Post **howlinwolf** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:29pm

A further thought is that our great defensive record so far this year is
only in small part due to Max's three games.

The defence is proven without him (maybe better with though)
So adding a smallish forward option in Gwilt makes some sense as adding
further pressure to Geelong's backline.

Gwilt however needs to be very accountable. Especially in keeping the ball in the forward line with tackling pressure as well as a few sausages.

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:31pm

howlinwolf wrote:I'm very happy with our coaching department. It's a proven formula so far
this season.

It's hard to argue this. We all are bewildered by certain decisions at times
but there's a reason we are not on the coaching panel.

That being said it's hard for us to understand Ross saying Goose is there
for when Max may retire in 2010 and yet when Max is injured Goose still
doesn't get a go ?

As usual the club will know better though and hopefully we will win and
the logic will be revealed.

The reason I see is that Geelong has many dangerous small forwards
including Byrnes who after years seems to have found something to hang his hat on.

Add Chapman, Johnson, Varcoe (who I thought was no good last year)
and our defence could have been too tall.

This small and fast attack probably doesn't suit Goose.

Agree... which means the in will have to be either Miles or Eddy, as Raph and Jim will still be too slow and oversizd for the Geelong smalls...

saint66au · Post: # 767073Post **saint66au** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:31pm

The reason I see is that Geelong has many dangerous small forwards
including Byrnes who after years seems to have found something to hang his hat on.

Add Chapman, Johnson, Varcoe (who I thought was no good last year)
and our defence could have been too tall.

This small and fast attack probably doesn't suit Goose.

At LAST come common sense

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:36pm

howlinwolf wrote:
As usual the club will know better though and hopefully we will win and
the logic will be revealed.

The club most certainly doesn't always know better. They're not 100% perfect and I'm sure if they're honest they wouldn't claim to be. Sometimes "blind Freddy" can see a problem, but the match committee can be too close to the situation, or too stubborn, to make the best move.

howlinwolf · Post: # 767081Post **howlinwolf** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:40pm

[/quote]The club most certainly doesn't always know better. They're not 100% perfect and I'm sure if they're honest they wouldn't claim to be. Sometimes "blind Freddy" can see a problem, but the match committee can be too close to the situation, or too stubborn, to make the best move.[/quote]

I agree with this in some instances but this year we are 13-0 so logic says they got it right a vast majority of the time.

I believe in the new banner saying ... " ROSS KNOWS "

undecided · Post: # 767082Post **undecided** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:40pm

Blake should f off and let goose in

FortiusQuoFidelius · Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:42pm

undecided wrote:Blake should f off and let goose in

You would expect that Blake would be on notice to improve...

Mr Magic · Post: # 767088Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:45pm

AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:
howlinwolf wrote:
As usual the club will know better though and hopefully we will win and
the logic will be revealed.

The club most certainly doesn't always know better. They're not 100% perfect and I'm sure if they're honest they wouldn't claim to be. Sometimes "blind Freddy" can see a problem, but the match committee can be too close to the situation, or too stubborn, to make the best move.

They may not be 100% perfect but, IMO, they're well in front of any of us on here.

You make negative statements without any real knowledge of what discussions have taken place and what plans have been made to put into practice.

How about you explain, in the context of our gameplan against Geelong, why the selection decisions are wrong?

As far as I can see, you're not offering any incisive knowledge on selection decisions, just negative criticism because Goose wasn't selected.

S.A Saint · Post: # 767090Post **S.A Saint** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:45pm

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
undecided wrote:Blake should f off and let goose in
You would expect that Blake would be on notice to improve...

here we go again with the bashing of blake...

blake has been very good for us all season in the best defence we have ever had...

howlinwolf · Post: # 767096Post **howlinwolf** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 6:55pm

Also,
Add Wojinski ,which equals speed to the Geelong lineup as is most likely
for David Johnson's injury and you have the reason Goose is not in.

The coaching panel is looking at our best combination to combat this
particular team. Not a general allround best 22.

Devilhead · Post: # 767100Post **Devilhead** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:05pm

Ahhh question ..... Does Maguire's current form in the VFL warrant selection in the senior team???

whoever is picked this week to replace Maxy (not necessarily take his position) will come down to team balance and can I say the coaching panel have not got it wrong once this season with regards to team selection

st.byron · Post: # 767119Post **st.byron** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:31pm

If Goose's form, and the balance of the team, warrants his selection, then he'll be picked.
We're 13-0, so the match committee must be doing something right.

Junior · Post: # 767128Post **Junior** » Thu 02 Jul 2009 7:40pm

Maquire on his VFL form is not a walk up start, he is going okay but not great.

Geelong have two key forwards, we have Dawson, Blake and Fisher plus Gilbert who can play tall we did not need an extra tall this week. What we need is a third forward or some one that can match up on the likes of Varcoe, Byrnes, Chapman and Johnson. We need players with agility and pace.

All of the players listed as ins have agility and a bit of pace or in Eddy's case the ability to shut down a player.