Johnson - will he get to chase Gram all day?
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Johnson - will he get to chase Gram all day?
I just wonder if we should play Gram on Johnson. Johnson may kick 2 if he is well held, or 5 if not...but what would he do if Gram is played on him ? Would he be happy to chase Gram all day ?
Just a different approach , than trying to negate Johnson.
Ross has done this sort of thing before in midfield matchups.
Just a different approach , than trying to negate Johnson.
Ross has done this sort of thing before in midfield matchups.
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Re: Johnson - will he get to chase Gram all day?
It's not beyond the realm of possibility.saint08 wrote:I just wonder if we should play Gram on Johnson. Johnson may kick 2 if he is well held, or 5 if not...but what would he do if Gram is played on him ? Would he be happy to chase Gram all day ?
Just a different approach , than trying to negate Johnson.
Ross has done this sort of thing before in midfield matchups.
I'd suspect we might go with Baker. Few players can unsettle Johnson these days, but Bakes needs a scalp, it's a big challenge but one he'd love to take, especially since he made a good return to form on the weekend.
Usually Baker has taken Ablett - with great success - but I'd rather Jones for that and Baker for this.
I'd try to keep Gram free at all costs. Yes, he's a little reckless going forward, but we're extremely hard to defend against when the ball is coming in at speed.
I'm usually 100% for skill but we do tend to score quite heavily when we get the ball in there quickly. I suppose it comes down to whether Geelong flood back. If they do, we need precision passing inside our 50, but if our forward line is open, we could cause a lot more damage by getting it in as quickly and as deep as possible.
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Re: Johnson - will he get to chase Gram all day?
That will not happen. Firstly we lose his run and secondly he would get badly beaten.saint08 wrote:I just wonder if we should play Gram on Johnson. Johnson may kick 2 if he is well held, or 5 if not...but what would he do if Gram is played on him ? Would he be happy to chase Gram all day ?
Just a different approach , than trying to negate Johnson.
Ross has done this sort of thing before in midfield matchups.
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Perhaps Gilbert would be a better match for Stevie J - got the agility and has the balls to take the game on and can lay a tackle. Or perhaps even bring Dempster in for his defensive efforts to replace bakes in the team.
Bakes is far too slow these days (pains me to say it)
Gram cannot defend to save himself IMHO and he'd be the last person i'd put on him.
I think C.Mooney looms as more of a threat due to the structual importance he plays in straightening them up when delivering to forward line to create a contest.
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Bakes is far too slow these days (pains me to say it)
Gram cannot defend to save himself IMHO and he'd be the last person i'd put on him.
I think C.Mooney looms as more of a threat due to the structual importance he plays in straightening them up when delivering to forward line to create a contest.
Zach attack to Hawkins.
Re: Johnson - will he get to chase Gram all day?
Geez I hope not... Bakes was getting easily outmarked by Eddie Betts, he would get killed in the air by Johnson. I love Bakes but he just doesn't have the tools to play on guys like this. He should get Stokes or Varcoe and someone like Gilbert or Fisher should get Johnson.evertonfc wrote: I'd suspect we might go with Baker. Few players can unsettle Johnson these days, but Bakes needs a scalp, it's a big challenge but one he'd love to take, especially since he made a good return to form on the weekend.
Usually Baker has taken Ablett - with great success - but I'd rather Jones for that and Baker for this.
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Surely Gilbert is the only one with the athleticism to not only stay with SJ but to work a little bit creatively off him. For all SJ's amazing brilliance (he is an absolute freak) the one area he perhaps lets himself down is his effort once the ball spills free in the contest...Gilbert could be really effective if SJ plays him a little loose.
To be honest, I am even a little bit encouraged by a few of of the Cats' lack of second and third efforts (even Gablett can be a tad lazy). That said I suppose there's nothing like a blockbuster to change all that quick smart...
To be honest, I am even a little bit encouraged by a few of of the Cats' lack of second and third efforts (even Gablett can be a tad lazy). That said I suppose there's nothing like a blockbuster to change all that quick smart...
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Gram would get 25-30 touches and SJ would get 4-8 goals and probably a heap of goal assists. Which one would be more valuable? Unless Gram's kicking is absolutely spot on, it'll be Johnson. Novel approach, but Johnson's far too damaging a player to not attempt to negate imo.
Someone like Gilbert or Fisher who could actually shut him down whilst working the other way would be a better option, and if he starts getting too dangerous I'd trust Max to put a stop to him.
Someone like Gilbert or Fisher who could actually shut him down whilst working the other way would be a better option, and if he starts getting too dangerous I'd trust Max to put a stop to him.
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Re: Johnson - will he get to chase Gram all day?
Id rather he get none. Give em bloody nothingsaint08 wrote:I just wonder if we should play Gram on Johnson. Johnson may kick 2 if he is well held, or 5 if not...but what would he do if Gram is played on him ? Would he be happy to chase Gram all day ?
Just a different approach , than trying to negate Johnson.
Ross has done this sort of thing before in midfield matchups.
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