2009 draft picks

[Bring back Troy Shwarze!]

Can someone fill me in on the agreement with the Gold Coast team getting heaps of draft picks.

Is it good timing that we're going to be finishing high up the ladder anyway or is this the last year to snatch up some young guns before GC do?

cheers

[kosifantutti23]

This would be a bad year to win the premiership.

[True Blue Sainter]

GC get:

1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 15 (correct me if I'm wrong), and the first pick of every round thereafter.

They also get the first pick, and the first pick of each round thereafter in the Rookie Draft. Not sure about the PSD.

Seems way over the top, if they can't get a flag by 2016....

[supersaints]

This would be a bad year to win the premiership.

No such thing as a bad year to win a premiership, after all we have only won one!!! This year would be a fantastic year.....

[plugger66]

This would be a bad year to win the premiership.

No such thing as a bad year to win a premiership, after all we have only won one!!! This year would be a fantastic year.....

Exactly. We have one won flag 111 years. There never is a bad yer. In a way its a great year to be up the top because there are no 17 year olds in this draft so it will be weaker so less chance for the bottom clubs to improve. Pick 18 for example may be no worse than pick 6 because of the depth or lack of it.

GC17 only get 17 year olds this year. Are still not in the main draft until next season.

[james rose]

This would be a bad year to win the premiership.

No such thing as a bad year to win a premiership, after all we have only won one!!! This year would be a fantastic year.....

Exactly. We have one won flag 111 years. There never is a bad yer. In a way its a great year to be up the top because there are no 17 year olds in this draft so it will be weaker so less chance for the bottom clubs to improve. Pick 18 for example may be no worse than pick 6 because of the depth or lack of it.

GC17 only get 17 year olds this year. Are still not in the main draft until next season.

also winning the flag puts more value on your fringe players who GC may be interested in trading for.

[PJ]

There's no such thing as a bad year to win a GF. Saints need to be smart at recruiting ala Tommy Walsh and other less travelled paths. Although I wasn't encouraged by the way Tommy was talking - he doesn't seem that into it.

Rookie Draft seems to be yeiding a bit of talent.

[Ghost Like]

As Plugger66 said, only 17yos this year (the best dozen I think) and their fraft concessions kick off in the 2010 draft.

Agree with looking at alternatives and vital that we lock in our NSW scholarship players such as Duncan, Murphy & one other (can't think of his name atm)

Win the flag this year &/or next, then tread some water and systematically rebuild with some clever and astute recruiting.

The dynasty starts now!

[#1GILL]

Just pick trade jason blake to Melbourne for pick no.1 this year and recruit Tom Scully....He is the best young player i have ever seen by a mile

[Schillaci]

This would be a bad year to win the premiership.

lol

[ace]

Wrong year guys.

Gold Coast has another year before they get a full crack at the draft.
See http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... hp?t=52708
Post No 16.

This years draft is impacted by the change in age qualification for the national draft - up from 17 2/3 to 18 (age taken at the end of the year).

The AFL is trying to align the draft so that kids don't get drafted until they have finished their VCE year.

[ace]

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default ... wsid=76855

THE DRAFT rules for Gold Coast will be as follows:

1. 2009 NAB AFL Draft
Gold Coast to have the capacity to sign 12 x 17 year-olds born in the January – April window (January 1 to April 30, 1992).

2. 2010 NAB AFL Draft
Gold Coast to have first pick in each round
Gold Coast to have selections 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15 in round one

3. 2009 NAB Rookie Draft
Gold Coast to have selections 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5

4. 2010 NAB Rookie Draft
Gold Coast to alternate Queensland priority selections with Brisbane Lions. Gold Coast to have first selection

5. Zoned access
Gold Coast to have zoned access to up to five Queensland players prior to each of 2010, 2011 and 2012 NAB AFL Drafts
Gold Coast to have zoned access to up to three Northern Territory players prior to the 2010 NAB AFL Draft

6. 2010 Post-season, AFL listed player access
Gold Coast to have capacity to pre-list 10 players who had previously nominated for the AFL Draft, or were previously listed with an AFL club.

Gold Coast to have capacity to sign up to 16 uncontracted players

Gold Coast would also have an expanded list size and TPP allowance in the club’s initial four years from 2011 to 2014, which would be as follows:

2011 – 48 senior list, nine rookies with $1m TPP extra allowance;
2012 – 46 senior list, nine rookies with $800k TPP extra allowance;
2013 – 42 senior list, nine rookies with $600k TPP extra allowance;
2014 – 40 senior list, nine rookies with $400k TPP extra allowance;
2015 – 38 senior list, nine rookies in line with other AFL clubs.

As part of the entry rules for the Gold Coast side, the AFL Commission resolved that any club that lost a player to the expansion side would be eligible for a compensation pick (after the entry of both Gold Coast and the second club to be based in Sydney).

Compensation picks will be tradeable and can be used by clubs at any time within five years. First round compensation picks cannot be used until the end of the first round in the 2010 and 2011 drafts. Clubs will be required to nominate the year in which they plan to use the compensation pick before the first round of the Toyota AFL Premiership Season in that particular year.

The compensatory pick would be assessed around the player’s age (greater weighting for younger players), club contract ranking (greater weighting for club key players), onfield performance (greater weighting for strong club best and fairest performance) and draft position if less than four years experience.

This ranking system will then determine if a club is eligible for a compensatory pick in one of five spots – first-round pick, end-of-first-round pick, second-round pick, end-of-second-round pick or third-round pick. Under the model, the round-one, round-two or round-three picks would be taken immediately after the pick the club already has in that round in the draft that year.

Please find attached below an example of how the 2010 NAB AFL Draft would look, under these concession rules (indicative draft order before trading):

Round one
1 Gold Coast
2 Gold Coast
3 Gold Coast
4 Club 16 on 2010 ladder
5 Gold Coast
6 Club 15 on 2010 ladder
7 Gold Coast
8 Club 14 on 2010 ladder
9 Gold Coast
10 Club 13 on 2010 ladder
11 Gold Coast
12 Club 12 on 2010 ladder
13 Gold Coast
14 Club 11 on 2010 ladder
15 Gold Coast
16 Club 10 on 2010 ladder
17 Club 9 on 2010 ladder
18 Club 8 on 2010 ladder
19 Club 7 on 2010 ladder
20 Club 6 on 2010 ladder
21 Club 5 on 2010 ladder
22 Club 4 on 2010 ladder
23 Club 3 on 2010 ladder
24 Club 2 on 2010 ladder
25 Club 1 on 2010 ladder

Round two
26 Gold Coast
27 Club 16 on 2010 ladder
28 Club 15 on 2010 ladder
29 Club 14 on 2010 ladder
30 Club 13 on 2010 ladder
31 Club 12 on 2010 ladder
32 Club 11 on 2010 ladder
33 Club 10 on 2010 ladder
34 Club 9 on 2010 ladder
35 Club 8 on 2010 ladder
36 Club 7 on 2010 ladder
37 Club 6 on 2010 ladder
38 Club 5 on 2010 ladder
39 Club 4 on 2010 ladder
40 Club 3 on 2010 ladder
41 Club 2 on 2010 ladder
42 Club 1 on 2010 ladder


Round three
43 Gold Coast
44 Club 16 on 2010 ladder
45 Club 15 on 2010 ladder
46 Club 14 on 2010 ladder
47 Club 13 on 2010 ladder
48 Club 12 on 2010 ladder
49 Club 11 on 2010 ladder
50 Club 10 on 2010 ladder
51 Club 9 on 2010 ladder
52 Club 8 on 2010 ladder
53 Club 7 on 2010 ladder
54 Club 6 on 2010 ladder
55 Club 5 on 2010 ladder
56 Club 4 on 2010 ladder
57 Club 3 on 2010 ladder
58 Club 2 on 2010 ladder
59 Club 1 on 2010 ladder

Picks numbers could be / will be affected (slip) by priority picks as well.
It may well be picks 27, 44, 61 when we go back to back.

[kosifantutti23]

Wrong year guys.

Gold Coast has another year before they get a full crack at the draft.
See http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... hp?t=52708
Post No 16.

This years draft is impacted by the change in age qualification for the national draft - up from 17 2/3 to 18 (age taken at the end of the year).

The AFL is trying to align the draft so that kids don't get drafted until they have finished their VCE year.

OK.

I'd be happy if we won the flag.

[Stillwaiting]

This would be a bad year to win the premiership.

Never thought I would hear that from saints fans, its not like we can afford to be selective about winning premierships, besides, dont think it matters anyway, all teams will have crap draft pick.

[Lenny = legend]

Can someone fill me in on the agreement with the Gold Coast team getting heaps of draft picks.

Is it good timing that we're going to be finishing high up the ladder anyway or is this the last year to snatch up some young guns before GC do?

cheers

Interesting thread...in terms of GC and picking up youngsters it's not an ideal time to be going well but we still have some very good young players like Gilbo so not too concerned about the future.

[plugger66]

Can someone fill me in on the agreement with the Gold Coast team getting heaps of draft picks.

Is it good timing that we're going to be finishing high up the ladder anyway or is this the last year to snatch up some young guns before GC do?

cheers

Interesting thread...in terms of GC and picking up youngsters it's not an ideal time to be going well but we still have some very good young players like Gilbo so not too concerned about the future.

Exact opposite. Not a good time to be going poorly.

[Lenny = legend]

Can someone fill me in on the agreement with the Gold Coast team getting heaps of draft picks.

Is it good timing that we're going to be finishing high up the ladder anyway or is this the last year to snatch up some young guns before GC do?

cheers

Interesting thread...in terms of GC and picking up youngsters it's not an ideal time to be going well but we still have some very good young players like Gilbo so not too concerned about the future.

Exact opposite. Not a good time to be going poorly.

you're right, i was confused...i meant it is a good time to be going well AND we still have some very good young players like Gilbo