Swine flu and the Saints 2009 campaign.
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Swine flu and the Saints 2009 campaign.
Starting to get a bit concerned over AFL games re swine flu. Not players but crowds and gathering.
Round 14? Finals?... another week like the last few days and the AFL is in deep chaos for 2009 season.
Round 14? Finals?... another week like the last few days and the AFL is in deep chaos for 2009 season.
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I am not sure that in its current form it is quite as dangerous as it is being made out by mainstream media. It is the ability to mutate that has health authorities quite worried. From what I have heard Victoria is a great place for this virus to change into something more dangerous.
Its ok now...but if it mutates...look out!
Its ok now...but if it mutates...look out!
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More like its a new strain.
Very little immunity.
However, the symptoms can be severe.
I would not be running out to catch it, but there is very little that can be done to stop it spreading.
If you get sick, get tested, get drugs. Take a coupla weeks off.
Very little immunity.
However, the symptoms can be severe.
I would not be running out to catch it, but there is very little that can be done to stop it spreading.
If you get sick, get tested, get drugs. Take a coupla weeks off.
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as with any infection/ influenca
if you are run down, off colour, have another medical condition that weakens your immunity and your ability to overcome the symptoms you will be more at risk.
if you are generally well and rest and follow advice then recovery is enhanced,
it's like the measles or the mumps- I never realised they too could be deadly-- when we were kids ( ok I'm now old) families almost wanted kids to get them early- Now it's known you can die from the infection.
Good hygiene and keeping your coughs and colds to your self-
and don't associate with South Americans or mexicans.
if you are run down, off colour, have another medical condition that weakens your immunity and your ability to overcome the symptoms you will be more at risk.
if you are generally well and rest and follow advice then recovery is enhanced,
it's like the measles or the mumps- I never realised they too could be deadly-- when we were kids ( ok I'm now old) families almost wanted kids to get them early- Now it's known you can die from the infection.
Good hygiene and keeping your coughs and colds to your self-
and don't associate with South Americans or mexicans.
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Ah...but do answer THAT question would dilute the scare factor/selling point of the TERRIBLE DANGER THAT WILL KILL US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!jonesy wrote:I'd like to know the same thingThinline wrote:Does swine flu actually do anything other than make you cough and splutter for a few days?
If so, why is it so much more of a concern than regular old 'around all the time' flu?
I think there's a very fine line between keeping the public informed so they can make decisions about their own safety, and causing unnecessary panic.
I'm no expert by any means, but my understanding is that the symptoms of this flu can be more severe than others and that while the old, young, frail and infirm are most at risk, healthy people are more likely to become more ill than they might with another strain of flu.
Environments where air is constantly recirculating (such as in aircraft) are obviously going to increase the risk of contracting the virus by increasing the risk of exposure. (incidentally Roo revealed on the footy show last night that the saints will wear masks on board their flights to Qld as a precaution).
As with all virus prevention, your best protection is good hygeine. Wash your hands frequently and thouroughly (for at least 15 - 20 seconds) under running water with soap or disinfectant. Cover nose and mouth with a tissue when coughing or sneezing then dispose of tissue in plastic lined rubbish bin. Do not touch your face, particularly eyes, nose, mouth without washing hands first, as the virus can survive on environmental surfaces and thus be transmitted in this manner.
Thats all I can remember off hand. Courtesy of staff memo issued to us as I work in a food service industry.
I'm no expert by any means, but my understanding is that the symptoms of this flu can be more severe than others and that while the old, young, frail and infirm are most at risk, healthy people are more likely to become more ill than they might with another strain of flu.
Environments where air is constantly recirculating (such as in aircraft) are obviously going to increase the risk of contracting the virus by increasing the risk of exposure. (incidentally Roo revealed on the footy show last night that the saints will wear masks on board their flights to Qld as a precaution).
As with all virus prevention, your best protection is good hygeine. Wash your hands frequently and thouroughly (for at least 15 - 20 seconds) under running water with soap or disinfectant. Cover nose and mouth with a tissue when coughing or sneezing then dispose of tissue in plastic lined rubbish bin. Do not touch your face, particularly eyes, nose, mouth without washing hands first, as the virus can survive on environmental surfaces and thus be transmitted in this manner.
Thats all I can remember off hand. Courtesy of staff memo issued to us as I work in a food service industry.
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If the Government and its bureaucrats had kept it all low key in the first place, then they could just let it spread around the community and use the stockpile of anti-virals to treat those who get it.
But what they've done is to massively build up a level of fear among the public that is way of out of proportion with the risk (more people have died of Murray Valley Encephalitis in Australia so far this year than the total who have died of Swine Flu in the entire world outside the US, Spain and Mexico). At the same time, they have persuaded the public and the media that government action is somehow going to stop the disease spreading throughout the community. This was always unrealistic.
So now the panic is going to just keep getting greater and greater. We are now hearing about hotels throwing out people who have been quarantined there with swine flu. Next of all, we'll start seeing footy games and children's birthday parties cancelled, restaurants, cinemas and shopping centres shut down, and all sorts of other mayhem. All of which will ultimately prove unsuccessful in preventing the spread of a modified version of the H1NI variety of flue that has been around for the best part of a century and which, in its latest form, doesn't seem to have a higher death rate than good old annual flu.
But, you see, the purpose of all this is so some doctors and public servants can puff out their chests, strut around the place, and tell the world how monumentally important they are because they are supposedly in charge of "managing" this enormous "crisis". And, surely, that's the most important thing of all..............
But what they've done is to massively build up a level of fear among the public that is way of out of proportion with the risk (more people have died of Murray Valley Encephalitis in Australia so far this year than the total who have died of Swine Flu in the entire world outside the US, Spain and Mexico). At the same time, they have persuaded the public and the media that government action is somehow going to stop the disease spreading throughout the community. This was always unrealistic.
So now the panic is going to just keep getting greater and greater. We are now hearing about hotels throwing out people who have been quarantined there with swine flu. Next of all, we'll start seeing footy games and children's birthday parties cancelled, restaurants, cinemas and shopping centres shut down, and all sorts of other mayhem. All of which will ultimately prove unsuccessful in preventing the spread of a modified version of the H1NI variety of flue that has been around for the best part of a century and which, in its latest form, doesn't seem to have a higher death rate than good old annual flu.
But, you see, the purpose of all this is so some doctors and public servants can puff out their chests, strut around the place, and tell the world how monumentally important they are because they are supposedly in charge of "managing" this enormous "crisis". And, surely, that's the most important thing of all..............
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SaintDebi wrote: (incidentally Roo revealed on the footy show last night that the saints will wear masks on board their flights to Qld as a precaution).
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just saw vision of the saints getting of the plane in Brisbane-
\Farren trying to decide "do I leave it on or take it off"
Bally had his on and Bakes didn't- laughing his head off
it actually seemed like one of the smaller planes- are the downsizing flights these days
I came back from Adelaide in a very tiny one recently.-- makes for abumpy ride.
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I saw one of my uncle's this morning ( Pie supporter ) at my dad's house and as I walked in I sneezed, my uncle said "Gee I hope you don't have the swine flu " and I said no way I don't barrick for the pies....he was not amused but everyone else laughed..saintsrus wrote:Sounds like every Pies supportersaintbrat wrote:
if you are run down, off colour, have another medical condition that weakens your immunity and your ability to overcome the symptoms you will be more at risk
Yeah, those self-important doctors are loving every extra patient that comes in and crowds the already overloaded health system. A massive win for them...meher baba wrote:If the Government and its bureaucrats had kept it all low key in the first place, then they could just let it spread around the community and use the stockpile of anti-virals to treat those who get it.
But what they've done is to massively build up a level of fear among the public that is way of out of proportion with the risk (more people have died of Murray Valley Encephalitis in Australia so far this year than the total who have died of Swine Flu in the entire world outside the US, Spain and Mexico). At the same time, they have persuaded the public and the media that government action is somehow going to stop the disease spreading throughout the community. This was always unrealistic.
So now the panic is going to just keep getting greater and greater. We are now hearing about hotels throwing out people who have been quarantined there with swine flu. Next of all, we'll start seeing footy games and children's birthday parties cancelled, restaurants, cinemas and shopping centres shut down, and all sorts of other mayhem. All of which will ultimately prove unsuccessful in preventing the spread of a modified version of the H1NI variety of flue that has been around for the best part of a century and which, in its latest form, doesn't seem to have a higher death rate than good old annual flu.
But, you see, the purpose of all this is so some doctors and public servants can puff out their chests, strut around the place, and tell the world how monumentally important they are because they are supposedly in charge of "managing" this enormous "crisis". And, surely, that's the most important thing of all..............
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