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Post: # 731178Post Mooksy »

I realise this is far from our most pressing issue but does anyone have a theory or the real story as to why we haven't had someone in this number for the last couple of years?


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Post: # 731186Post Otiman »

Theory: Waiting for someone worthy enough to take it.


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Post: # 731205Post skeptic »

i stole the jumper


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Post: # 731206Post TriColourDisciple »

It was given to Joel Smith in the mid 90s without him being 'worthy' of it. He was just a kid.
Why is it now considered the holy grail of Saints guernseys?
I mean, Andrew Thompson was good, but he wasn't THAT good.


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Post: # 731209Post Legendary »

Give it to Geary or one of the youngsters.


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Post: # 731212Post perfectionist »

TriColourDisciple wrote:It was given to Joel Smith in the mid 90s without him being 'worthy' of it. He was just a kid.
Why is it now considered the holy grail of Saints guernseys?
I mean, Andrew Thompson was good, but he wasn't THAT good.
I disagree. Joel Smith was a most worthy wearer as was Andrew Thompson. The club should tell us why it has not been allocated.


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Post: # 731221Post saint3d »

Give it to CJ.


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Post: # 731260Post Mr Magic »

I seem to recall a story doing the rounds that it was offered to Luke Ball but he declined, preferring to stay with #14?


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Post: # 731264Post stinger »

the number worn by the doc, plugger and thommo.......yeah...it's special....


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Post: # 731272Post cowboy18 »

Something to do with the Mayan calendar?


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Post: # 731273Post Bernard Shakey »

It's just a number!


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Post: # 731276Post vacuous space »

cowboy18 wrote:Something to do with the Mayan calendar?
Was it the Mayans who prophesised that the world would come to an end with a team in West Sydney?


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Post: # 731278Post mr six o'clock »

Maybe no one wants it?


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Post: # 731310Post saint66au »

As stinger said..No 4 has been worn by some true legends of our Club..and I for one am very glad that theyve held off handing it over until someone truly deserves it....and frankly after 2008 none of our young uns did

Our "most improved player" award last year was won by Raph..who'd been dropped at least once during the year and really only came good in Round 20-21. Was very slim pickings apart from that.

If our current form continues, either Geary or Gilbert would be worthy recipients...and who knows even Raph might like the symmetry of having the number next to his brothers if his good form continues when he gets back out on the park.

As for players not wanting to "upgrade"..Roo knocked back No 1 after the 2006 season when Frankie Peckett retired.


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Post: # 731315Post bergholt »

It should have gone to Gilbert two years ago, or CJ at the end of last year - not sure why they're so squeamish about giving away single digit numbers.

Why is number 9 empty as well? I love the big ugly mug, but he's not the sort who has his jumper number retired. At the end of this year, push down Eddy, Geary, CJ, hopefully. All the rest are probably too ensconced in their place now to move, although if Ray keeps up his good form he could go back down to single figures.


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Post: # 731317Post ThePunter »

I think you'll find Raph will jump on 8 as soon as Max retires. Remember him making some comments about really wanting that number when he was first drafted.


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Post: # 731405Post Armoooo »

Yeah 4 and 9 have had enough of a break after this season, IMO Geary and CJ can take them... 35 however still needs a couple more years off, it's been through a lot in the last 20 years :wink:


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Post: # 731497Post bozza1980 »

perfectionist wrote:
TriColourDisciple wrote:It was given to Joel Smith in the mid 90s without him being 'worthy' of it. He was just a kid.
Why is it now considered the holy grail of Saints guernseys?
I mean, Andrew Thompson was good, but he wasn't THAT good.
I disagree. Joel Smith was a most worthy wearer as was Andrew Thompson. The club should tell us why it has not been allocated.
Joel Smith became a worthy wearer of the jumper, but when it was given to him he was just a kid who had not played AFL footy.

At the end of the day, I think it should just be allocated like any other number.


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Post: # 731501Post Spinner »

Give 35 to the first player drafted next year....

Its not a number you want to force players to wear only because of its history....therefore, too much of a ask to hand it down as were the #23 and #3.....

4 - Geary

9 - Lynch


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Post: # 731723Post avid »

I've been hoping that Luke Ball would step into #4 -- from 14 just like Plugger did. As a genuine leader and legend.
I take the history of our numbers probably way too seriously, and emotionally. I hate seeing a non-deserver in one of our great numbers. I'm even upset at seeing small players in No 10, or 2 or 31, which traditionally have been our rucks (for some unknown, but uncanny reason.)
No 3 is Ross Smith, Bruce Duperousel, and then Burkey, so X is all right there (if he could only perform a bit better).
1, 5, 8 and 18 seem to have special significance. And now of course 35. 29 is a weird number, with almost everyone who's worn it over the last twenty years graduating to a single digit. Hopefully Lynchy can continue the 'tradition'. Graduate him straight to 9, when he's good enough.


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Post: # 731743Post saint66au »

Michael Roberts wore #10 with distinction..looks ok on lil blokes for mine

No 1? Stephen Newport didnt really di it any justice IMO and I'm very glad the Club is now neing more careful with who gets it

#35?? No way should it go to a first year draft pick. Can you imagine how much pressure the poor kid would cop from the media in his first game?

I reckon Zac would slide nicely into #8 if his form continues, he stays elevated and Max does retire at years end. Lovely bit of symmetry and I reckon he'd feel unbeatable in it :-)


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Post: # 731789Post HarveysDeciple »

TriColourDisciple wrote:It was given to Joel Smith in the mid 90s without him being 'worthy' of it. He was just a kid.
Why is it now considered the holy grail of Saints guernseys?
I mean, Andrew Thompson was good, but he wasn't THAT good.
Agree on Smith.

Thompson was a 200 game player who won a best and fairest and captained the side so was probably worthy.

Smith was a kid with potential....if we could do it then, surely now they could.


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Spinner wrote:Give 35 to the first player drafted next year....

Its not a number you want to force players to wear only because of its history....therefore, too much of a ask to hand it down as were the #23 and #3.....

4 - Geary

9 - Lynch


Done and dusted.
Agree Spinner.

35 could also go to whichever recruit requests it, that would show a fair degree of confidence and self belief.


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Post: # 731821Post Bernard Shakey »

saint66au wrote:Michael Roberts wore #10 with distinction..looks ok on lil blokes for mine
The only reason Michael Roberts got #10 was because his old man won a Brownlow in it.


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Post: # 731826Post matrix »

give it to geary next year....if he proves himself this year.........
which so far he has
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