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Mr Magic wrote:Did he remind anybody last night of Luke Penny?
Sheesh,
How a simple question like tha above has elicited an argument is typical of how Saintsational seems to operate.

I, rightly or wrongly (and remember it is only my oinion!) could see some similarities in teh way Dawson played on Saturday night with the way Penny used to play at Full back.

I never made any reference to him being better, worse, equal or any reference to his long term viability as a Saints player.

As far as I can see nobody else did either other than Stinger? making a reference to Dawson being quicker than Penny.

And then Plugger comes along in his inimitable style and posts a 'blanket sledge' at all and sundry over connets that were never made?

So Plugger just for you:-

The Umpires
AFL Admin
MRP
Tribunal
Laws of the Game
AFL Commission

are all incompetent!

Now knock yourself out with sledges. :)


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Post: # 715551Post stinger »

actually....zac would be quicker over 100 metres than most of the players on our list.....


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Post: # 715563Post plugger66 »

Mr Magic wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Did he remind anybody last night of Luke Penny?
Sheesh,
How a simple question like tha above has elicited an argument is typical of how Saintsational seems to operate.

I, rightly or wrongly (and remember it is only my oinion!) could see some similarities in teh way Dawson played on Saturday night with the way Penny used to play at Full back.

I never made any reference to him being better, worse, equal or any reference to his long term viability as a Saints player.

As far as I can see nobody else did either other than Stinger? making a reference to Dawson being quicker than Penny.

And then Plugger comes along in his inimitable style and posts a 'blanket sledge' at all and sundry over connets that were never made?

So Plugger just for you:-

The Umpires
AFL Admin
MRP
Tribunal
Laws of the Game
AFL Commission

are all incompetent!

Now knock yourself out with sledges. :)
I wasnt having a go at your post but when someone says Zac on one leg would be quicker than Penny then that is a definate sledge. Surely you can see that. I didnt mention your post at all just said we shouldnt evne start comparing Zac to Penny after one game. Surely you can see that even if you cant see our game is by far the best run game in the land.


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Post: # 715568Post stinger »

plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Did he remind anybody last night of Luke Penny?
Sheesh,
How a simple question like tha above has elicited an argument is typical of how Saintsational seems to operate.

I, rightly or wrongly (and remember it is only my oinion!) could see some similarities in teh way Dawson played on Saturday night with the way Penny used to play at Full back.

I never made any reference to him being better, worse, equal or any reference to his long term viability as a Saints player.

As far as I can see nobody else did either other than Stinger? making a reference to Dawson being quicker than Penny.

And then Plugger comes along in his inimitable style and posts a 'blanket sledge' at all and sundry over connets that were never made?

So Plugger just for you:-

The Umpires
AFL Admin
MRP
Tribunal
Laws of the Game
AFL Commission

are all incompetent!

Now knock yourself out with sledges. :)
I wasnt having a go at your post but when someone says Zac on one leg would be quicker than Penny then that is a definate sledge. Surely you can see that. I didnt mention your post at all just said we shouldnt evne start comparing Zac to Penny after one game. Surely you can see that even if you cant see our game is by far the best run game in the land.


sledge?????...get a life ffs...you really are a misery guts.........penny was as slow as a wet week......on the other hand , zac was hawthorn's representative in the grand final sprint....i was just pointing out in my own way that he was far quicker....and he is,,,,ffs..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


and i'm willing to place a bet on the fact that he could hop faster on one leg......


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Post: # 715569Post plugger66 »

stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Did he remind anybody last night of Luke Penny?
Sheesh,
How a simple question like tha above has elicited an argument is typical of how Saintsational seems to operate.

I, rightly or wrongly (and remember it is only my oinion!) could see some similarities in teh way Dawson played on Saturday night with the way Penny used to play at Full back.

I never made any reference to him being better, worse, equal or any reference to his long term viability as a Saints player.

As far as I can see nobody else did either other than Stinger? making a reference to Dawson being quicker than Penny.

And then Plugger comes along in his inimitable style and posts a 'blanket sledge' at all and sundry over connets that were never made?

So Plugger just for you:-

The Umpires
AFL Admin
MRP
Tribunal
Laws of the Game
AFL Commission

are all incompetent!

Now knock yourself out with sledges. :)
I wasnt having a go at your post but when someone says Zac on one leg would be quicker than Penny then that is a definate sledge. Surely you can see that. I didnt mention your post at all just said we shouldnt evne start comparing Zac to Penny after one game. Surely you can see that even if you cant see our game is by far the best run game in the land.


sledge?????...get a life ffs...you really are a misery guts.........penny was as slow as a wet week......on the other hand , zac was hawthorn's representative in the grand final sprint....i was just pointing out in my own way that he was far quicker....and he is,,,,ffs..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


and i'm willing to place a bet on the fact that he could hop faster on one leg......
Thought I'd get a bite out of the old pot kettle black man. ffs ffs ffs ffs emoticons old man, ffs, rolling eyes, pot kettle black.


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Post: # 715571Post stinger »

plugger66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Did he remind anybody last night of Luke Penny?
Sheesh,
How a simple question like tha above has elicited an argument is typical of how Saintsational seems to operate.

I, rightly or wrongly (and remember it is only my oinion!) could see some similarities in teh way Dawson played on Saturday night with the way Penny used to play at Full back.

I never made any reference to him being better, worse, equal or any reference to his long term viability as a Saints player.

As far as I can see nobody else did either other than Stinger? making a reference to Dawson being quicker than Penny.

And then Plugger comes along in his inimitable style and posts a 'blanket sledge' at all and sundry over connets that were never made?

So Plugger just for you:-

The Umpires
AFL Admin
MRP
Tribunal
Laws of the Game
AFL Commission

are all incompetent!

Now knock yourself out with sledges. :)
I wasnt having a go at your post but when someone says Zac on one leg would be quicker than Penny then that is a definate sledge. Surely you can see that. I didnt mention your post at all just said we shouldnt evne start comparing Zac to Penny after one game. Surely you can see that even if you cant see our game is by far the best run game in the land.


sledge?????...get a life ffs...you really are a misery guts.........penny was as slow as a wet week......on the other hand , zac was hawthorn's representative in the grand final sprint....i was just pointing out in my own way that he was far quicker....and he is,,,,ffs..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


and i'm willing to place a bet on the fact that he could hop faster on one leg......
Thought I'd get a bite out of the old pot kettle black man. ffs ffs ffs ffs emoticons old man, ffs, rolling eyes, pot kettle black.

and you are still one miserable supporter...... :roll: :roll:


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Post: # 715577Post plugger66 »

stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Did he remind anybody last night of Luke Penny?
Sheesh,
How a simple question like tha above has elicited an argument is typical of how Saintsational seems to operate.

I, rightly or wrongly (and remember it is only my oinion!) could see some similarities in teh way Dawson played on Saturday night with the way Penny used to play at Full back.

I never made any reference to him being better, worse, equal or any reference to his long term viability as a Saints player.

As far as I can see nobody else did either other than Stinger? making a reference to Dawson being quicker than Penny.

And then Plugger comes along in his inimitable style and posts a 'blanket sledge' at all and sundry over connets that were never made?

So Plugger just for you:-

The Umpires
AFL Admin
MRP
Tribunal
Laws of the Game
AFL Commission

are all incompetent!

Now knock yourself out with sledges. :)
I wasnt having a go at your post but when someone says Zac on one leg would be quicker than Penny then that is a definate sledge. Surely you can see that. I didnt mention your post at all just said we shouldnt evne start comparing Zac to Penny after one game. Surely you can see that even if you cant see our game is by far the best run game in the land.


sledge?????...get a life ffs...you really are a misery guts.........penny was as slow as a wet week......on the other hand , zac was hawthorn's representative in the grand final sprint....i was just pointing out in my own way that he was far quicker....and he is,,,,ffs..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


and i'm willing to place a bet on the fact that he could hop faster on one leg......
Thought I'd get a bite out of the old pot kettle black man. ffs ffs ffs ffs emoticons old man, ffs, rolling eyes, pot kettle black.

and you are still one miserable supporter...... :roll: :roll:

Can you explain why. Because I point out that we shouldnt get ahead of ourselves or should we go overboard after a win that I certainly expected. Does that make me miserable. I dont think so but you old pot kettle black man are one miserable person. Always saying ffs and using rolling eyes and having a go at nearly every reporter and opposition player. Maybe you should try Viagra it may help you get over your obvious downers you have.


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Post: # 715602Post Solar »

plugger66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Did he remind anybody last night of Luke Penny?
Sheesh,
How a simple question like tha above has elicited an argument is typical of how Saintsational seems to operate.

I, rightly or wrongly (and remember it is only my oinion!) could see some similarities in teh way Dawson played on Saturday night with the way Penny used to play at Full back.

I never made any reference to him being better, worse, equal or any reference to his long term viability as a Saints player.

As far as I can see nobody else did either other than Stinger? making a reference to Dawson being quicker than Penny.

And then Plugger comes along in his inimitable style and posts a 'blanket sledge' at all and sundry over connets that were never made?

So Plugger just for you:-

The Umpires
AFL Admin
MRP
Tribunal
Laws of the Game
AFL Commission

are all incompetent!

Now knock yourself out with sledges. :)
I wasnt having a go at your post but when someone says Zac on one leg would be quicker than Penny then that is a definate sledge. Surely you can see that. I didnt mention your post at all just said we shouldnt evne start comparing Zac to Penny after one game. Surely you can see that even if you cant see our game is by far the best run game in the land.


sledge?????...get a life ffs...you really are a misery guts.........penny was as slow as a wet week......on the other hand , zac was hawthorn's representative in the grand final sprint....i was just pointing out in my own way that he was far quicker....and he is,,,,ffs..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


and i'm willing to place a bet on the fact that he could hop faster on one leg......
Thought I'd get a bite out of the old pot kettle black man. ffs ffs ffs ffs emoticons old man, ffs, rolling eyes, pot kettle black.

and you are still one miserable supporter...... :roll: :roll:

Can you explain why. Because I point out that we shouldnt get ahead of ourselves or should we go overboard after a win that I certainly expected. Does that make me miserable. I dont think so but you old pot kettle black man are one miserable person. Always saying ffs and using rolling eyes and having a go at nearly every reporter and opposition player. Maybe you should try Viagra it may help you get over your obvious downers you have.
hey plugger66

if you disagree with the opinion posted by ONE poster please quote them and adress their point. That blanket sledge was pathetic but not unexpected.

anyway it's fantastic that we are developing another full back


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Solar wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Did he remind anybody last night of Luke Penny?
Sheesh,
How a simple question like tha above has elicited an argument is typical of how Saintsational seems to operate.

I, rightly or wrongly (and remember it is only my oinion!) could see some similarities in teh way Dawson played on Saturday night with the way Penny used to play at Full back.

I never made any reference to him being better, worse, equal or any reference to his long term viability as a Saints player.

As far as I can see nobody else did either other than Stinger? making a reference to Dawson being quicker than Penny.

And then Plugger comes along in his inimitable style and posts a 'blanket sledge' at all and sundry over connets that were never made?

So Plugger just for you:-

The Umpires
AFL Admin
MRP
Tribunal
Laws of the Game
AFL Commission

are all incompetent!

Now knock yourself out with sledges. :)
I wasnt having a go at your post but when someone says Zac on one leg would be quicker than Penny then that is a definate sledge. Surely you can see that. I didnt mention your post at all just said we shouldnt evne start comparing Zac to Penny after one game. Surely you can see that even if you cant see our game is by far the best run game in the land.


sledge?????...get a life ffs...you really are a misery guts.........penny was as slow as a wet week......on the other hand , zac was hawthorn's representative in the grand final sprint....i was just pointing out in my own way that he was far quicker....and he is,,,,ffs..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


and i'm willing to place a bet on the fact that he could hop faster on one leg......
Thought I'd get a bite out of the old pot kettle black man. ffs ffs ffs ffs emoticons old man, ffs, rolling eyes, pot kettle black.

and you are still one miserable supporter...... :roll: :roll:

Can you explain why. Because I point out that we shouldnt get ahead of ourselves or should we go overboard after a win that I certainly expected. Does that make me miserable. I dont think so but you old pot kettle black man are one miserable person. Always saying ffs and using rolling eyes and having a go at nearly every reporter and opposition player. Maybe you should try Viagra it may help you get over your obvious downers you have.
hey plugger66

if you disagree with the opinion posted by ONE poster please quote them and adress their point. That blanket sledge was pathetic but not unexpected.

anyway it's fantastic that we are developing another full back
You cannot help but comment. Do you have a problem apart from me because it cetainly sounds like it. I have a suggestion pleas seek help and also mind your own business.

And yes it is good that we have another option at FB at the moment.


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so anyway Zac Dawson went pretty well :D


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plugger66 wrote:
You cannot help but comment. Do you have a problem apart from me because it cetainly sounds like it. I have a suggestion pleas seek help and also mind your own business.

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pan ...wok..... ebony.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: ....thought i was talking to mm in the first place....didn't stop you sticking your oar in , did it......


...just who needs to seek help... :roll:
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Post: # 715620Post rodgerfox »

Dawson was good. Very good even.

Can't read much into Saturday night though, in terms of our defenders and in terms of Sydney's forwards.

John Coleman would have found it tough on Saturday if he was in a Swans jumper.


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stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
You cannot help but comment. Do you have a problem apart from me because it cetainly sounds like it. I have a suggestion pleas seek help and also mind your own business.

.

pan ...wok..... ebony.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: ....thought i was taking to mm in the first place....didn't stop you sticking your oar in , did it......


...just who needs to seek help... :roll:
Still waiting on you to answer my question old emoticon ffs pot kettle black rolling eyes or did you realise how right I was about you being miserable about nearly everything.


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One good game does not a champion make... just ask Allan Murray. :lol:

I think most of us are pleased for young Zac because of the ridicule he received on this forum by some posters who know SFA about footy or what the coach's plan is.

As the great E.J said... He stuck it right up 'em!


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For what it's worth, these are my observations of Zac......

Tall and strong.
Very quick off the mark.
Very agile for someone who is 195cm.
Huge leap.
Hungry to establish himself after being delisted by Hawthorn.
Still young.

A player with all the above attributes would normally cost a pretty decent draft pick in the national draft and yet we picked him up in the rookie draft.

I believe that we have a gem on our hands who hasn't cost us much. :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:


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Mr Magic wrote:Did he remind anybody last night of Luke Penny?
I did find myself thinking on Saturday night that if Dawson holds his opponents until Hudghton gets back, RL will be in a very similar situation to what GT was in 04. So in that sense, I guess I was reminded of Penny. Penny's best was too long ago and for too short a time for me to get a clear image of what he was as a player though.

I liked the way Dawson played. Angry, aggressive, good spoils without giving away frees. He had a lot of help on the night, but he hardly put a foot wrong. While I always prefer to excercise caution when pumping up new players, I think there's good reason to be excited about Dawson as a key defender. Let's hope he backs it up.

Whether he was overrated or not, the treatment Penny got around here when he retired was disgusting. Our much maligned fitness staff thought they could get him through on one good knee. Our coach took a shot at him in the press. Because of that, certain people around here labelled him all kinds of awful things. With his problems, he would have been taking a major risk continuing. I'd love the St Kilda football club to win a flag, but I'd rather be able to walk when I'm older.


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Post: # 715727Post Mr Magic »

vacuous space wrote: I liked the way Dawson played. Angry, aggressive, good spoils without giving away frees. He had a lot of help on the night, but he hardly put a foot wrong. While I always prefer to excercise caution when pumping up new players, I think there's good reason to be excited about Dawson as a key defender. Let's hope he backs it up.
Not specifically your post but I've noticed a number of times that the issue of 'he had plenty of help' being raised, almost in a derogatory tone?

And yet 'experts' seem to run out of compliments for Scarlett who is the beneficiary of so much assistance he could almost line up in the forward line?

Why is it good for some but not for others?


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plugger66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
You cannot help but comment. Do you have a problem apart from me because it cetainly sounds like it. I have a suggestion pleas seek help and also mind your own business.

.

pan ...wok..... ebony.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: ....thought i was taking to mm in the first place....didn't stop you sticking your oar in , did it......


...just who needs to seek help... :roll:
Still waiting on you to answer my question old emoticon ffs pot kettle black rolling eyes or did you realise how right I was about you being miserable about nearly everything.

what makes you think...even for a second.... :roll: :roll: :roll: ,,,,that i would answer any question posed by you.....get a grip on reality ffs.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


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stinger wrote:
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stinger wrote:first time i can recall boofhead being called a midfielder
No I'm pretty sure it wasn't Boofhead, not broad enough across the shoulders. I thought it was Kieren Jack.

might have been...he dropped hall as well then
I just saw the Hall bump from Youtube on the other thread - http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... p?p=715854

Didn't even see that one during the game, I must have been doing something else at the time. That definitely wasn't the bump I saw. Kieren Jack, or someone of his build, at top flight. Zac, from almost a standing start, meets him chest on, almost in the same spot he took Bazza out. Bang! The guy flies backwards, flat on his back. Must have thought he could mow Zac down.

Folks, we have a real cracker on our hands!


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Whats the world record time for going from whipping boy to cult hero?

Reckon Zac might just give it a shake ;-)


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Whats the world record time for going from whipping boy to cult hero?
Troy Schwarze May 1st 2004 22:38 Whipping boy
Troy Schwarze May 1st 2004 22:39 Cult Hero


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Post: # 715862Post Mr Magic »

saint66au wrote:Whats the world record time for going from whipping boy to cult hero?

Reckon Zac might just give it a shake ;-)
Just wait until he puts in a bad game - the 'love' will disipate very quickly on here.


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kosifantutti23 wrote:
Whats the world record time for going from whipping boy to cult hero?
Troy Schwarze May 1st 2004 22:38 Whipping boy
Troy Schwarze May 1st 2004 22:39 Cult Hero
Good call


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Mr Magic wrote:Not specifically your post but I've noticed a number of times that the issue of 'he had plenty of help' being raised, almost in a derogatory tone?
I don't think it takes anything away from his personal performance. Like I said, he didn't put a foot wrong all night. Hall's only goal wasn't in any way his fault.

Our team did a great job of limiting Hall's space. When it came down to one-on-one, Dawson was always up to the task. It wasn't a Hudghton-on-Franklin type of performance but, given the circumstances, Dawson played about as well as he possibly could have.

It will be interesting to see who he gets this week since Adelaide have no obvious opponent for him.


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