Saints Draft History 2003-2007

[saint24601]

Here is who we have drafted and how many games they have played. It certainly doesn't look pretty!!!

2007:
Ben McEvoy - 1 game
Jack Steven - 0
Fraser Gehrig - 5 (since being redrafted)
Eljay Connors - 0
2006
David Armitage - 16
Brad Howard - 2
Jarryd Allen - 4
Matthew Ferguson - 4 (since being redrafted)
2005:
Sam Gilbert - 39
Michael Rix - 29
Phillip Raymond - 0
Justin Sweeney - 1
2004:
Andrew McQualter - 35
Cain Ackland - 41
Mark McGough - 12
James Gwilt - 26
2003:
Raphael Clarke - 41
Sam Fisher - 96
Craig Callaghan - 29
2002:
Brendan Goddard - 113
Matthew Ferguson - 8
Leigh Fisher - 55

[Thinline]

Geez... Class of '06 needs to get a wriggle on...

[undecided]

in my opinion 7 out of 21 will become at least 150+ game players.

Steven - expecting big things in 09
Armitage - have faith i think he can do it
Gilbert - will be a big part of our defense in future
Gwilt - has shown he can do it
Clarke - most promising in 08 should continue to improve
Sam Fisher - superstar
Goddard - superstar

McEvoy, Allen and Leigh Fisher also could get there or there about

also Geary and particularly Eddy could become decent players

im looking forward to see who we pick up on saturday

[FortiusQuoFidelius]

in my opinion 7 out of 21 will become at least 150+ game players.

Steven - expecting big things in 09
Armitage - have faith i think he can do it
Gilbert - will be a big part of our defense in future
Gwilt - has shown he can do it
Clarke - most promising in 08 should continue to improve
Sam Fisher - superstar
Goddard - superstar

McEvoy, Allen and Leigh Fisher also could get there or there about

also Geary and particularly Eddy could become decent players

im looking forward to see who we pick up on saturday

Agree totally... From what I saw of Steven in the twos last year he will be a superstar...

[Saintschampions08]

in my opinion 7 out of 21 will become at least 150+ game players.

Steven - expecting big things in 09
Armitage - have faith i think he can do it
Gilbert - will be a big part of our defense in future
Gwilt - has shown he can do it
Clarke - most promising in 08 should continue to improve
Sam Fisher - superstar
Goddard - superstar

McEvoy, Allen and Leigh Fisher also could get there or there about

also Geary and particularly Eddy could become decent players

im looking forward to see who we pick up on saturday

Get a grip on Raph Clarke....

He played a handful of good games that covered the rest of his mediocre season.
Has shown just enough not to get delisted, hasn't shown he'll be anything yet...let alone most promising player, thats a joke.

Gwilt...again, played a few above average games...nothing yet

[bigcarl]

Geez ... Class of '06 needs to get a wriggle on.

or maybe we need to get some more games into them.

we seem to have implemented a "safety first" policy over the past couple of seasons, which has slowed the development of some players.

[saintsRrising]

Gwilt has shown very little in terms of being a genuine first 22 player on a consistent basis.

I expect him to play very little football in the seniors in 2009.

[Iceman234]

Geez ... Class of '06 needs to get a wriggle on.

or maybe we need to get some more games into them.

we seem to have implemented a "safety first" policy over the past couple of seasons, which has slowed the development of some players.

And with no Harves running through the middle, could be a great chance for Armo and Jack in bursts to step up and get that game time.

[FortiusQuoFidelius]

Geez ... Class of '06 needs to get a wriggle on.

or maybe we need to get some more games into them.

we seem to have implemented a "safety first" policy over the past couple of seasons, which has slowed the development of some players.

A bit like the Aussie Cricket Team, a few have been picked on reputation and not on form!

[bigcarl]

raph has shown just enough not to get delisted, hasn't shown he'll be anything yet ... let alone most promising player, thats a joke

disagree. he played some very good football towards the end of the season and was in our best players in the final we won.

was also named "most promising player" at the b&f.

it was a fair achievement given the year he had ... his father's terminal illness, being diagnosed with epilepsy and his rumoured depression over the constant baggings he received on here and from st kilda supporters in general.

he's likely to really shut a few mouths in 2009 imo.

[Saintschampions08]

Has shown just enough not to get delisted, hasn't shown he'll be anything yet ... let alone most promising player, thats a joke

disagree. he played some very good football towards the end of the season and was in our best players in the final we won.

was also named "most promising player" at the b&f.

it was a fair achievement given the year he had ... his father's terminal illness, being diagnosed with epilepsy and his rumoured depression over the constant baggings he received on here and from st kilda supporters in general.

he's likely to really shut a few mouths in 2009 imo.

That's my point exactly, he played some good football in the what last 6 games of the year

He came back into the team in round 20, and i commend him for that....but the first 5 games he played (r1-3, r7&8) were nothing short of horribly bad.
Why does the 6 good games he played outweigh the 5 terrible games he played?

And to be fair, the fact that he won the 'most promising player' award shows exactly how far our young players are behind most other clubs.

Basing the last 6 games on him to be a star, is jumping the gun. Remember how he played in most of '07 and some of '06....some people forget the bad too quickly.

[bigcarl]

Has shown just enough not to get delisted, hasn't shown he'll be anything yet ... let alone most promising player, thats a joke

disagree. he played some very good football towards the end of the season and was in our best players in the final we won.

was also named "most promising player" at the b&f.

it was a fair achievement given the year he had ... his father's terminal illness, being diagnosed with epilepsy and his rumoured depression over the constant baggings he received on here and from st kilda supporters in general.

he's likely to really shut a few mouths in 2009 imo.

That's my point exactly, he played some good football in the what last 6 games of the year

He came back into the team in round 20, and i commend him for that....but the first 5 games he played (r1-3, r7&8) were nothing short of horribly bad.
Why does the 6 good games he played outweigh the 5 terrible games he played?

And to be fair, the fact that he won the 'most promising player' award shows exactly how far our young players are behind most other clubs.

Basing the last 6 games on him to be a star, is jumping the gun. Remember how he played in most of '07 and some of '06....some people forget the bad too quickly.

they take a while to come on.

agree he wasn't good early in the season, but i think you might be underestimating the effects of his undiagnosed illness and his father's impending death.

[Saintschampions08]

Has shown just enough not to get delisted, hasn't shown he'll be anything yet ... let alone most promising player, thats a joke

disagree. he played some very good football towards the end of the season and was in our best players in the final we won.

was also named "most promising player" at the b&f.

it was a fair achievement given the year he had ... his father's terminal illness, being diagnosed with epilepsy and his rumoured depression over the constant baggings he received on here and from st kilda supporters in general.

he's likely to really shut a few mouths in 2009 imo.

That's my point exactly, he played some good football in the what last 6 games of the year

He came back into the team in round 20, and i commend him for that....but the first 5 games he played (r1-3, r7&8) were nothing short of horribly bad.
Why does the 6 good games he played outweigh the 5 terrible games he played?

And to be fair, the fact that he won the 'most promising player' award shows exactly how far our young players are behind most other clubs.

Basing the last 6 games on him to be a star, is jumping the gun. Remember how he played in most of '07 and some of '06....some people forget the bad too quickly.

they take a while to come on.

agree he wasn't good early in the season, but i think you might be underestimating the effects of his undiagnosed illness and his father's impending death.

Maybe i am, but i'm not saying he's crap - nor am i saying he's good.

I'm just trying to remind people that he has a huge amount of work to do before he's anything near a good player. He hasn't even earned his spot yet, he needs to keep performing every week to keep it.

[SainterK]

in my opinion 7 out of 21 will become at least 150+ game players.

Steven - expecting big things in 09
Armitage - have faith i think he can do it
Gilbert - will be a big part of our defense in future
Gwilt - has shown he can do it
Clarke - most promising in 08 should continue to improve
Sam Fisher - superstar
Goddard - superstar

McEvoy, Allen and Leigh Fisher also could get there or there about

also Geary and particularly Eddy could become decent players

im looking forward to see who we pick up on saturday

Get a grip on Raph Clarke....

He played a handful of good games that covered the rest of his mediocre season.
Has shown just enough not to get delisted, hasn't shown he'll be anything yet...let alone most promising player, thats a joke.

Gwilt...again, played a few above average games...nothing yet

I do have a good feeling about Gwilt though

[Saints Premiers 2008]

in my opinion 7 out of 21 will become at least 150+ game players.

Steven - expecting big things in 09
Armitage - have faith i think he can do it
Gilbert - will be a big part of our defense in future
Gwilt - has shown he can do it
Clarke - most promising in 08 should continue to improve
Sam Fisher - superstar
Goddard - superstar

McEvoy, Allen and Leigh Fisher also could get there or there about

also Geary and particularly Eddy could become decent players

im looking forward to see who we pick up on saturday

Get a grip on Raph Clarke....

He played a handful of good games that covered the rest of his mediocre season.
Has shown just enough not to get delisted, hasn't shown he'll be anything yet...let alone most promising player, thats a joke.

Gwilt...again, played a few above average games...nothing yet

jesus christ we over-rate our own

if i was jack steven, bored on a thursday night i would hate reading all the love for him...god hopes he succeeds

[undecided]

not to put too much pressure on the kid but he should win the brownlow by 2012

[Eastern]

Back on topic:

How does our performance in that draft period stack up against that of the 15 other clubs? Surely that would give us a better indication !!

[undecided]

is about 1 in 3 good???? altough surely we have drafted more players then that in the past few years or have we been trading our picks?????

[undecided]

Gwilt has shown very little in terms of being a genuine first 22 player on a consistent basis.

I expect him to play very little football in the seniors in 2009.

he can play forward or back so he can be very use full. And we dont really have like a 3rd tall up forward like a Mark Williams and i think Gwilt could play a role like that

[bigcarl]

Gwilt has shown very little in terms of being a genuine first 22 player on a consistent basis.

I expect him to play very little football in the seniors in 2009.

he can play forward or back so he can be very use full. And we dont really have like a 3rd tall up forward like a Mark Williams and i think Gwilt could play a role like that

i quite like him as a half back or winger, but the jury's well and truly out on whether he'll make it as a forward.

he kicked three goals for 2008 despite playing quite a bit of football in the forward line. not convinced he's a natural goal-kicker.

[Saintschampions08]

Gwilt has shown very little in terms of being a genuine first 22 player on a consistent basis.

I expect him to play very little football in the seniors in 2009.

he can play forward or back so he can be very use full. And we dont really have like a 3rd tall up forward like a Mark Williams and i think Gwilt could play a role like that

i quite like him as a half back or winger, but the jury's well and truly out on whether he'll make it as a forward.

he kicked three goals for 2008 despite playing quite a bit of football in the forward line. not convinced he's a natural goal-kicker.

I think he's a bit of everything, but doesn't excel at anything in particular.

He showed glimpses playing forward, playing back and even when running on the ball...but he didn't do it consistently or well enough.

Still, has a chance for '09.

[Ice Wolf]

Gwilt has shown very little in terms of being a genuine first 22 player on a consistent basis.

I expect him to play very little football in the seniors in 2009.

he can play forward or back so he can be very use full. And we dont really have like a 3rd tall up forward like a Mark Williams and i think Gwilt could play a role like that

i quite like him as a half back or winger, but the jury's well and truly out on whether he'll make it as a forward.

he kicked three goals for 2008 despite playing quite a bit of football in the forward line. not convinced he's a natural goal-kicker.

To be fair the delivery to all the forwards was shocking as was the general forward setup.

[Saints Premiers 2008]

Gwilt has shown very little in terms of being a genuine first 22 player on a consistent basis.

I expect him to play very little football in the seniors in 2009.

he can play forward or back so he can be very use full. And we dont really have like a 3rd tall up forward like a Mark Williams and i think Gwilt could play a role like that

so when he does play forward...how come he doesn't kick goals like mark williams???

[Richter]

in my opinion 7 out of 21 will become at least 150+ game players.

Steven - expecting big things in 09
Armitage - have faith i think he can do it
Gilbert - will be a big part of our defense in future
Gwilt - has shown he can do it
Clarke - most promising in 08 should continue to improve
Sam Fisher - superstar
Goddard - superstar

McEvoy, Allen and Leigh Fisher also could get there or there about

also Geary and particularly Eddy could become decent players

im looking forward to see who we pick up on saturday

God, it's good to read a footy related thread again!!!!

Steven - who knows, a few performances in the 2s is nothing to start dribbling about.

Armo - I hope so. Had a static year last year. Needs to show a fair bit more over the next two years.

Gilbert - hopefully will mature into a solid, reliable 2nd defender. Current an adequate 3rd defender who can show up against the best teams

Gwilt - now I like Gwilt, but tbh I think he'll end up around 50 games not 150.

Clarke - I agree will be at least 150 gamer, potentially over 200. Future AA not out of question. Big call I know but this kid oozes talent and he looks like he's just figured out how to put it all together.

Sam Fisher - agreed.

BJ - agreed. Our best hope for either a Brownlow, or a Norm Smith, which I have pencilled him in for over the next 3 years.

[SainterK]

in my opinion 7 out of 21 will become at least 150+ game players.

Steven - expecting big things in 09
Armitage - have faith i think he can do it
Gilbert - will be a big part of our defense in future
Gwilt - has shown he can do it
Clarke - most promising in 08 should continue to improve
Sam Fisher - superstar
Goddard - superstar

McEvoy, Allen and Leigh Fisher also could get there or there about

also Geary and particularly Eddy could become decent players

im looking forward to see who we pick up on saturday

God, it's good to read a footy related thread again!!!!

Steven - who knows, a few performances in the 2s is nothing to start dribbling about.

Armo - I hope so. Had a static year last year. Needs to show a fair bit more over the next two years.

Gilbert - hopefully will mature into a solid, reliable 2nd defender. Current an adequate 3rd defender who can show up against the best teams

Gwilt - now I like Gwilt, but tbh I think he'll end up around 50 games not 150.

Clarke - I agree will be at least 150 gamer, potentially over 200. Future AA not out of question. Big call I know but this kid oozes talent and he looks like he's just figured out how to put it all together.

Sam Fisher - agreed.

BJ - agreed. Our best hope for either a Brownlow, or a Norm Smith, which I have pencilled him in for over the next 3 years.

Yep the "architect" is a gun on the field, I also enjoyed his interview on FC giving us an insight into how passionate a Sainter he is. Given that he really hit form at the end of the year, it shows he has the ability to attract brownlow votes - 2 X 3 votes in the last 4 rounds.