ST KILDA DECIDES NOT TO PROCEED WITH BEN COUSINS

SainterK · Post: # 677132Post **SainterK** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:18pm

I just hope he is ok, I mean....I am worried for him.

joffaboy · Post: # 677133Post **joffaboy** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:18pm

iwantmeseats wrote:Just ignore JB once you read you posted the actual thing. Works for me.

Oh you break my heart

Seriously though. There must be reasons for not persuing him.

Look at the holes in our list.

We were spanked by Geelong and Hawthorn out of the centre in the finals.

We all know thsat where our problems lie.

We pick up a reasonable player in Ray but lost a once in a lifetine champion in Harvey.

We NEEDED a Cousins for our midfield.

The club and board aren't stupid, either is the coach. they understand how valuable Cousins would be in the midfield for the Saints and how it would give us a very big advantage.

They know all this.

So why did they not persue Cousins???

When this was so needed by the Saints?

It would have to be for other reasons and they must be compelling.

Have faith in the admin to make the best decisions for the club. Cousins was obviously NOT in the clubs best interests.

I am dissapointed but not overwrought.

To spit the dummy and threaten not to take up a membership over a player is incredibly infantile.

The club is not one player. Otherwise we should all not renew our memberships after Harvs retired. A much more worthy reason to stop watching the Saints than Cousins.

No keep on with the membership if Cousins is the only issue.

lets all move on and worry about how the hole left by Harvs will be filled.

WayneJudson42 · Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:18pm

Legendary wrote:The club has undertaken a 5-month process.

They have spoken to everyone at length and every factor has been considered.

People with a wealth of football and business experience have made a decision not to recruit Ben Cousins.

They do not do so based on whims or farscial reasoning.

Is it no coincidence that 14 other clubs said "no", and St Kilda have also said "no" after such a lengthy process?

Fine to disagree with the decision, but don't attack the club and tear up your membership.

They made what was obviously one of the most thorough and reasoned decision they've ever made.

I think we need to respect that.

Yes, but don't let facts get in the way of imbecilic threats to tear up memberships

Armoooo · Post: # 677135Post **Armoooo** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:19pm

ralphysaints35 wrote:
Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:
ralphysaints35 wrote:Comeon Something else Tragic Happen were close to the record!
can you just shut up for a change and not post every thought that comes into your head???

just once... please do it
Ive Had about enough of your stalking s***
How about you shut the f*** up and stop Insulting every Post i do?

I love it how threads like these always bring out these sorts of arguments, they are incredibly entertaining, I'm so shattered I wasn't here for when the GT bomb went off...

Iceman234 · Post: # 677137Post **Iceman234** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:19pm

aussierules0k wrote: The lessen we are meant to learn here is.. "do drugs - your career is over." The message could've been, "do drugs - you can recover - IF you work your butt off and prove yourself".

That message was sent by the AFL AOK, and need not be supported by the STKFC. The ball is in BC's court now to convince someone to pick him up and continue his rehab.

barneyboyz · Post: # 677138Post **barneyboyz** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:19pm

Actually, when I think about it, the club in the old days might just have dozed straight into Cousins land without putting much thought to it at all.

I was wishing Ben could be a Saint, I am pi$$ed too, but I also see things don't quite add up with the whole saga.

Also, for mine, Nathan could still be a great asset to us if picked and at the end of the day we all get angry at times, shyt I have often wondered why I follow them, but I love em, can't help it

Go Saints, in 2009

bigcarl · Post: # 677139Post **bigcarl** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:19pm

Richter wrote:Fatpryk got it spot on when he said that RL never wanted him.

interesting.

what puzzles me is why we stuffed around for so long and sent out all the wrong messages before making a decision.

was it pressure from sponsors? did brisbane make a better offer? was it the coach's call?

though i disagree with the decision, i can live with it.

but i'd like to know the real reason.

iwantmeseats · Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:19pm

joffaboy wrote:
iwantmeseats wrote:Just ignore JB once you read you posted the actual thing. Works for me.
Oh you break my heart

Seriously though. There must be reasons for not persuing him.

Look at the holes in our list.

We were spanked by Geelong and Hawthorn out of the centre in the finals.

We all know thsat where our problems lie.

We pick up a reasonable player in Ray but lost a once in a lifetine champion in Harvey.

We NEEDED a Cousins for our midfield.

The club and board aren't stupid, either is the coach. they understand how valuable Cousins would be in the midfield for the Saints and how it would give us a very big advantage.

They know all this.

So why did they not persue Cousins???

When this was so needed by the Saints?

It would have to be for other reasons and they must be compelling.

Have faith in the admin to make the best decisions for the club. Cousins was obviously NOT in the clubs best interests.

I am dissapointed but not overwrought.

To spit the dummy and threaten not to take up a membership over a player is incredibly infantile.

The club is not one player. Otherwise we should all not renew our memberships after Harvs retired. A much more worthy reason to stop watching the Saints than Cousins.

No keep on with the membership if Cousins is the only issue.

lets all move on and worry about how the hole left by Harvs will be filled.

I essentially have to agree with nearly all of that. Thats why I dont like it!

Saints94 · Post: # 677141Post **Saints94** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:20pm

ralphysaints35 wrote:
Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:
ralphysaints35 wrote:Comeon Something else Tragic Happen were close to the record!
can you just shut up for a change and not post every thought that comes into your head???

just once... please do it
Ive Had about enough of your stalking s***
How about you shut the f*** up and stop Insulting every Post i do?

Amen

clarky449 · Post: # 677142Post **clarky449** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:21pm

Why Archie i also want to hear from greg Westaway i dont even know what he looks like (jk)

fonz_#15 · Post: # 677143Post **fonz_#15** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:21pm

homework wrote:
ralphysaints35 wrote:
Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:
ralphysaints35 wrote:Comeon Something else Tragic Happen were close to the record!
can you just shut up for a change and not post every thought that comes into your head???

just once... please do it
Ive Had about enough of your stalking s***
How about you shut the f*** up and stop Insulting every Post i do?
Amen

oh no the best mates are ganging up on us all

Little Dozer · Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:21pm

Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:cya benny you drugfark...

You're a fool Saints Premiers 2008.

iwantmeseats · Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:22pm

Lets not eat each other alive over this.

Armoooo · Post: # 677146Post **Armoooo** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:22pm

iwantmeseats wrote:Lets not eat each other alive over this.

Shut up you cannibal-phobic bigot!!

Shades · Post: # 677147Post **Shades** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:22pm

gt on sen

Legendary · Post: # 677149Post **Legendary** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:23pm

chook23 wrote:
Legendary wrote:The club has undertaken a 5-month process.

They have spoken to everyone at length and every factor has been considered.

People with a wealth of football and business experience have made a decision not to recruit Ben Cousins.

They do not do so based on whims or farscial reasoning.

Is it no coincidence that 14 other clubs said "no", and St Kilda have also said "no" after such a lengthy process?

Fine to disagree with the decision, but don't attack the club and tear up your membership.

They made what was obviously one of the most thorough and reasoned decision they've ever made.

I think we need to respect that.
fair enough

hope the same thought is given on Carroll.

I agree.

I wish the club undertook such obviously extensive process on every decision they made.

15 clubs have said a definite "no" ... of those 15, we did by far the most groundwork and we also said "no".

Surely that can't be a coincidence?

JeffDunne · Post: # 677150Post **JeffDunne** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:23pm

To those people throwing a tanty over this, have you considered that maybe there was a valid reason that the club hasn't made public?

TBH, if there is, I'd much prefer we said nothing and copped the flak rather than going down the Collingwood path.

If no other club picks him up then I would say that vindicates the board's decision.

SainterK · Post: # 677151Post **SainterK** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:23pm

Why is no-one concerned about Ben, isn't anyone worried for him?

Muir_32 · Post: # 677152Post **Muir_32** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:23pm

G.T on SEN 1116 now

joffaboy · Post: # 677153Post **joffaboy** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:23pm

iwantmeseats wrote: I essentially have to agree with nearly all of that. Thats why I dont like it!

Come over to the dark side fella

SAINT JUMP · Post: # 677154Post **SAINT JUMP** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:23pm

how sad

we are all saints supporters, here we are turning on our club. why for a player who would love to be back at the eagles. we werent his first club he would of wanted to come too. we where the only club to want him, ill be there to supporter all our players, and hopefully they will do us proud, good luck boys for 2009.

Saints94 · Post: # 677156Post **Saints94** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:24pm

fonz_#15 wrote:
homework wrote:
ralphysaints35 wrote:
Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:
ralphysaints35 wrote:Comeon Something else Tragic Happen were close to the record!
can you just shut up for a change and not post every thought that comes into your head???

just once... please do it
Ive Had about enough of your stalking s***
How about you shut the f*** up and stop Insulting every Post i do?
Amen
oh no the best mates are ganging up on us all

don't start this s***

again fonz were not best mates

Armoooo · Post: # 677157Post **Armoooo** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:24pm

ohwhenthesaints! wrote:Why is no-one concerned about Ben, isn't anyone worried for him?

TBH, no not really. There are plenty more people in worse situations, and a lot of them hit more close to home for more people. I feel empathy for him but you have to remember, he made his own bed...

Shades · Post: # 677158Post **Shades** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:24pm

ohwhenthesaints! wrote:Why is no-one concerned about Ben, isn't anyone worried for him?

not really

GrumpyOne · Post: # 677159Post **GrumpyOne** » Tue 25 Nov 2008 9:25pm

Shady wrote:gt on sen

Like I care what that washed-up has-been has got to say. The original rent-an-opinion.