Your all time favourite "GOP" for the Saints?

Eastern · Post: # 673738Post **Eastern** » Mon 17 Nov 2008 9:35pm

Could Ricky Nixon be described as a GOP or just an OP? !!

degruch · Post: # 673739Post **degruch** » Mon 17 Nov 2008 9:36pm

saintly_safes wrote:Frankie Couglan always gave 100%, Greg Burns was as tough as old boots , Russell Jeffery was handy ,Bruce Duperouzel, Jeff Sarau ,Max Crowe,Graeme Gellie, Joffa Cunningham,Dean Grieg were all stalwarts in thier day without ever being stars

Bingo, was just thinking Frankie Coghlan m'self, thought he was a great tryer back when the team was pretty OP riddled. Frankie Peckett? Agree that Peckett was better than a GOP...also agree that there's a lot to choose from 1973 to about 1995!

iwantmeseats · Mon 17 Nov 2008 9:47pm

Eastern wrote:Was Greg Burns a GOP? or was he better than that? !!

Dude! Come on, surely he was better than that ?! He was to me.

Eastern · Post: # 673748Post **Eastern** » Mon 17 Nov 2008 9:48pm

iwantmeseats wrote:
Eastern wrote:Was Greg Burns a GOP? or was he better than that? !!
Dude! Come on, surely he was better than that ?! He was to me.

Question, not statement !!

iwantmeseats · Mon 17 Nov 2008 9:50pm

Eastern wrote:
iwantmeseats wrote:
Eastern wrote:Was Greg Burns a GOP? or was he better than that? !!
Dude! Come on, surely he was better than that ?! He was to me.
Question, not statement !!

I know, hence my follow on of the ole "??". Maybe he was a GOP, its all how you define the term, but to my memory in my early teens, he was above GOP. But we did have quite a few of them in those days.

saintly_safes · Mon 17 Nov 2008 9:54pm

iwantmeseats wrote:
Eastern wrote:Was Greg Burns a GOP? or was he better than that? !!
Dude! Come on, surely he was better than that ?! He was to me.

Yeah after giving it more thought I probably shouldnt have put him in .

my apology he was a shining light in some dark days at Moorabbin but I did get the tough bit right.

iwantmeseats · Mon 17 Nov 2008 9:56pm

Without Burnsey in the middle and Joffa roaming in the vicinity , I hate to think of how much worse it could have been at times.

sunsaint · Post: # 673754Post **sunsaint** » Mon 17 Nov 2008 9:58pm

degruch wrote:
saintly_safes wrote:Frankie Couglan always gave 100%, Greg Burns was as tough as old boots , Russell Jeffery was handy ,Bruce Duperouzel, Jeff Sarau ,Max Crowe,Graeme Gellie, Joffa Cunningham,Dean Grieg were all stalwarts in thier day without ever being stars
Bingo, was just thinking Frankie Coghlan m'self, thought he was a great tryer back when the team was pretty OP riddled. Frankie Peckett? Agree that Peckett was better than a GOP...also agree that there's a lot to choose from 1973 to about 1995!

My selction criteria: if you win Brownlows, Hall of Fame, All Aust, State of Origin, B&F's, media gongs, you rise above the GOP status.
To rise above OP, you should have a substantial career, say 5yrs <100 games, play consistant footy, give it your best shot, and be a good Saints clubman.

degruch · Post: # 673760Post **degruch** » Mon 17 Nov 2008 10:07pm

sunsaint wrote:My selction criteria: if you win Brownlows, Hall of Fame, All Aust, State of Origin, B&F's, media gongs, you rise above the GOP status.
To rise above OP, you should have a substantial career, say 5yrs <100 games, play consistant footy, give it your best shot, and be a good Saints clubman.

Wow, that's some criteria! So, all AFL teams apart from Geelong have been 95% GOP's over the last 4 years or so? Well, I'd have to say I think Peckett was a GSC, and Greg Burns, IMO.

iwantmeseats · Mon 17 Nov 2008 10:09pm

Eastern wrote:Could Ricky Nixon be described as a GOP or just an OP? !!

Il elevate him to GOP with a bullet if he gets BC over the line for us

Superboot · Post: # 673836Post **Superboot** » Tue 18 Nov 2008 9:06am

Neil Besanko, Stephen Theodore, Barney Rae, Skeeter Coghlan, Tim Pekin, Peter Bell, Shane Grambeau

As for Grant, in 1991 we had about 6 players who were the best in the comp in their respective positions, and Dave was one of them.

onlooker · Post: # 673848Post **onlooker** » Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:02am

Number 11 Greg Burns was a top liner for the Saints. He had tremendous courage and capacity to win the hard ball. He had a toughness that was a bit scary on occassions in that sometimes you wondered whether he really felt that knock to the head he got. The only downside to his game that I can recall eas his kicking - occassionally loopy drop punts that lacked accuracy

WayneJudson42 · Tue 18 Nov 2008 8:47pm

Anyone mention Matthew Young. Was a bit of a clanger king.. but gave us great run off the HBF.

It was Terry Suntan that stated at the time "stop Young and you stop St Kilda". Bastard

onlooker · Post: # 674196Post **onlooker** » Tue 18 Nov 2008 9:31pm

This is bloody annoying cause I can't think of the player's name but I can tell you a bit about him. When he arrived at StK during Stan Alve's coaching he definitely gave the midfield a huge lift. He stayed at the Saints for approx 4 seasons. When he arrived he had crook knees and he left cause they were causing real grief. He ended up coaching a team in Gippsland somewhere I think. He came from Melbourne where he had played a limited number of games (Lack of opportunity at the time) and had won either the U19 or Reserve Grade medal when at Melbourne.
IMO this guy was a GOP who made a difference to StK's lineup at the time.

saintly_safes · Tue 18 Nov 2008 9:43pm

onlooker wrote:This is bloody annoying cause I can't think of the player's name but I can tell you a bit about him. When he arrived at StK during Stan Alve's coaching he definitely gave the midfield a huge lift. He stayed at the Saints for approx 4 seasons. When he arrived he had crook knees and he left cause they were causing real grief. He ended up coaching a team in Gippsland somewhere I think. He came from Melbourne where he had played a limited number of games (Lack of opportunity at the time) and had won either the U19 or Reserve Grade medal when at Melbourne.
IMO this guy was a GOP who made a difference to StK's lineup at the time.

Are you thinking of Rod Keogh

sunsaint · Post: # 674202Post **sunsaint** » Tue 18 Nov 2008 9:45pm

onlooker wrote:This is bloody annoying cause I can't think of the player's name but I can tell you a bit about him. When he arrived at StK during Stan Alve's coaching he definitely gave the midfield a huge lift. He stayed at the Saints for approx 4 seasons. When he arrived he had crook knees and he left cause they were causing real grief. He ended up coaching a team in Gippsland somewhere I think. He came from Melbourne where he had played a limited number of games (Lack of opportunity at the time) and had won either the U19 or Reserve Grade medal when at Melbourne.
IMO this guy was a GOP who made a difference to StK's lineup at the time.

Stephen Newport???

saintly_safes · Tue 18 Nov 2008 9:49pm

onlooker wrote:This is bloody annoying cause I can't think of the player's name but I can tell you a bit about him. When he arrived at StK during Stan Alve's coaching he definitely gave the midfield a huge lift. He stayed at the Saints for approx 4 seasons. When he arrived he had crook knees and he left cause they were causing real grief. He ended up coaching a team in Gippsland somewhere I think. He came from Melbourne where he had played a limited number of games (Lack of opportunity at the time) and had won either the U19 or Reserve Grade medal when at Melbourne.
IMO this guy was a GOP who made a difference to StK's lineup at the time.

Brian Wilson maybe?

onlooker · Post: # 674210Post **onlooker** » Tue 18 Nov 2008 9:59pm

Saintly Safes you have a better memory than me. Rod Keogh was the man. Tough player, left foot natural kick and wasn't intimidated by anyone. I think would have played many more games for the Saints if his body had held together a bit better. I also understand he is Brent Crosswell's cousin.

saintly_safes · Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:01pm

onlooker wrote:This is bloody annoying cause I can't think of the player's name but I can tell you a bit about him. When he arrived at StK during Stan Alve's coaching he definitely gave the midfield a huge lift. He stayed at the Saints for approx 4 seasons. When he arrived he had crook knees and he left cause they were causing real grief. He ended up coaching a team in Gippsland somewhere I think. He came from Melbourne where he had played a limited number of games (Lack of opportunity at the time) and had won either the U19 or Reserve Grade medal when at Melbourne.
IMO this guy was a GOP who made a difference to StK's lineup at the time.

I realize this is a long shot & its a few years later maybe Steven Powell?

saintly_safes · Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:08pm

onlooker wrote:Saintly Safes you have a better memory than me. Rod Keogh was the man. Tough player, left foot natural kick and wasn't intimidated by anyone. I think would have played many more games for the Saints if his body had held together a bit better. I also understand he is Brent Crosswell's cousin.

Yeah he was good for us , he almost single handedly won us the first final in 97 againts Brisbane when Spider did his collarbone in the first quater.Its a pitty I carnt remember my wifes birthday or our wedding anniversary I guess I must of killed those brain cells "cheers"

Enrico_Misso · Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:10pm

[quote="sunsaint]Stephen Newport???[/quote]
Was relieved when we delisted him.
Then we turned around and redrafted him

stinger · Post: # 674231Post **stinger** » Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:49pm

Eastern wrote:Could Ricky Nixon be described as a GOP or just an OP? !!

i would have called him more of a dud......or a vop..........very ordinary player.....

stinger · Post: # 674232Post **stinger** » Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:52pm

Superboot wrote:Neil Besanko, Stephen Theodore, Barney Rae, Skeeter Coghlan, Tim Pekin, Peter Bell, Shane Grambeau

As for Grant, in 1991 we had about 6 players who were the best in the comp in their respective positions, and Dave was one of them.

shane grambeau was not...repeat not ..a gop......he was a jap........just a player.....

WayneJudson42 · Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:59pm

Grant lawrie?

onlooker · Post: # 674237Post **onlooker** » Tue 18 Nov 2008 11:06pm

Enrico_Misso wrote:[quote="sunsaint]Stephen Newport???

Was relieved when we delisted him.
Then we turned around and redrafted him

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Stephen Newport was an interesting player in that I wasn't quite sure how to rate him. In some respects he was probably our original tagger in the development of the 'modern'game. He certainly had what many call today the football smarts in working out the better ways of closing down an opponent's effectiveness before it became a regular feature of the game, and when doing this he had the ability to withstand very heavy pressure (he took some big hits probably reportable today). My other memory of his time with the Saints is that he lacked consistency. (Hang On - I think I have heard that before)