x re-signed
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18655
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1994 times
- Been thanked: 873 times
x re-signed
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html
ST KILDA yesterday ended speculation over Xavier Clarke's future when they signed the indigenous midfielder for another 12 months.
Clarke, 25, had another mixed year as he battled form and injury worries, as well as dealing with his father's health concerns.
There was speculation the No. 5 draft pick of 2001 might be traded, but the club will today announce the contract extension.
Emerging defender James Gwilt, 22, will also get a one-year contract after playing 13 games from Round 11 onwards this year.
Clarke played just eight games this year for 105 in total. After a poor qualifying final he was dropped for the rest of the finals series.
ST KILDA yesterday ended speculation over Xavier Clarke's future when they signed the indigenous midfielder for another 12 months.
Clarke, 25, had another mixed year as he battled form and injury worries, as well as dealing with his father's health concerns.
There was speculation the No. 5 draft pick of 2001 might be traded, but the club will today announce the contract extension.
Emerging defender James Gwilt, 22, will also get a one-year contract after playing 13 games from Round 11 onwards this year.
Clarke played just eight games this year for 105 in total. After a poor qualifying final he was dropped for the rest of the finals series.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 37
- Joined: Sat 19 Jul 2008 11:09pm
- Location: Fulham Slug
- Mr Magic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12799
- Joined: Fri 04 May 2007 9:38am
- Has thanked: 812 times
- Been thanked: 434 times
Actually he's in a similar position to the one he was in at this time last year, except for being a year older.spiral2 wrote:I really hope he puts it all together this year.
must be a real fright to be so close to going. one year contract sounds pretty do or die. must be concerns about his body.
go X!
He signed a 12 month contract last year also.
The Club obviously feel he has something to contribute but are wary of his continued injury problems. Maybe they are giving Misson and the medical team 12 more months to get him right?
Glad to see Gwilt get another go. Still only 22, never had the grounding of the TAC cup and is only just starting to show a bit.
I reckon the guy could be a real honest contributer and in our top 22 in a year or two if he keeps developing.
Different type but remember Andrew Thomson only started to kick on at age 24, Sam Fisher was drafted at age 23 etc.
As for X. Well I hope that now his personal issues have subsided he can get fit and contribute. Might want to look at the kid brother and see that he has been overtaken. Might spur him on.
heres hoping.
I reckon the guy could be a real honest contributer and in our top 22 in a year or two if he keeps developing.
Different type but remember Andrew Thomson only started to kick on at age 24, Sam Fisher was drafted at age 23 etc.
As for X. Well I hope that now his personal issues have subsided he can get fit and contribute. Might want to look at the kid brother and see that he has been overtaken. Might spur him on.
heres hoping.
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
- super dooper
- Club Player
- Posts: 858
- Joined: Sat 20 Mar 2004 12:24am
i know everyone is entitled to their opinion and all but, gees, are you serious?? TOP 5???saintsrus wrote:This guy injury free is in our top 5, all the talk of last chances/trading is just bollocks imo
When has he been fully fit for a decent amount of time to justify that he belongs as part of our core group of players?
Round 1 of 2006 he was awsome, but thats about it. Just a bits and pieces player that has shown flashes.
Unfortunately "flashes" of brilliance does not equate to winning finals or crunch games. Which raises the question, when has he played well in a big game (if he wasnt injured that is)??
So is he ahead of??
Roo
Hayes
S.Fish
Max
Hayes
Goddard
Ball
Dal Santo
Joey
Kosi
...
i think not
I hope all comes good after being in the system since he debuted in 2002, you'd think he has had a long enough apprentiship.
In that time as supporters we have seen us get smashed, come within brent guerras right foot of a premiership and now on a slow decline. We need to be sure we are investing for our next premiership team, when ever that may be.
Obviously by keeping him on the list for another 12 months is not jepoardising the position of a young player that we can blood so the decision seems perfectly logical. Surely this will open his eyes a bit that his career and lifestyle are on the line here and he must deliver!
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 84
- Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 4:36pm
- Location: Linen House Oval
- Contact:
[quote]Xavier Clarke and James Gwilt have signed new deals that will see them remain with the Saints for at least one more year. The 25-year old Clarke played eight games in an injury interrupted 2008 season while Gwilt played 13 including St Kilda’s three finals.
Matthew Drain, General Manager of Football & List Management said “We are delighted that Xavier and James have put pen to paper and committed to at least another year at the Saints. They are both young, valued members of the squad and we believe they have a lot to offer going forward.â€
Matthew Drain, General Manager of Football & List Management said “We are delighted that Xavier and James have put pen to paper and committed to at least another year at the Saints. They are both young, valued members of the squad and we believe they have a lot to offer going forward.â€
- saintbrat
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 44575
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:11pm
- Location: saints zone
- Has thanked: 6 times
- Been thanked: 188 times
Good work guys- thanks James and Xavier
Bad luck Aaron.
Bad luck Aaron.
StReNgTh ThRoUgH LoYaLtY
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
- Life Long Saint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5535
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:54pm
- Has thanked: 63 times
- Been thanked: 484 times
- Contact:
Do we have to pay his salary next season?Saints Media wrote:The Club also made the difficult decision to delist Aaron Fiora.
Aaron was drafted by Richmond with pick three in the 1999 AFL Draft and played 78 games before St Kilda acquired his services in a three-way trade in 2004. The midfielder went on to play 62 games with the Saints, kicking 32 goals to give him a career tally of 58.
The Club thanks Aaron for his contribution and wishes him all the best for the future.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5413
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 10:29am
- Has thanked: 33 times
- Been thanked: 47 times
yep. it would be in the salary cap for next year.Life Long Saint wrote:Do we have to pay his salary next season?Saints Media wrote:The Club also made the difficult decision to delist Aaron Fiora.
Aaron was drafted by Richmond with pick three in the 1999 AFL Draft and played 78 games before St Kilda acquired his services in a three-way trade in 2004. The midfielder went on to play 62 games with the Saints, kicking 32 goals to give him a career tally of 58.
The Club thanks Aaron for his contribution and wishes him all the best for the future.
- BAM! (shhhh)
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2134
- Joined: Thu 24 May 2007 5:23pm
- Location: The little voice inside your head
Is that 100%, or can the Saints pay it out and count it against this years number (assuming there's room)?saintly wrote:yep. it would be in the salary cap for next year.Life Long Saint wrote:Do we have to pay his salary next season?Saints Media wrote:The Club also made the difficult decision to delist Aaron Fiora.
Aaron was drafted by Richmond with pick three in the 1999 AFL Draft and played 78 games before St Kilda acquired his services in a three-way trade in 2004. The midfielder went on to play 62 games with the Saints, kicking 32 goals to give him a career tally of 58.
The Club thanks Aaron for his contribution and wishes him all the best for the future.
"Everything comes to he who hustles while he waits"
- Henry Ford
- Henry Ford
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5413
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 10:29am
- Has thanked: 33 times
- Been thanked: 47 times
they can pay him out, but i think it will come out of 2009 salary cap payment.BAM! (shhhh) wrote:Is that 100%, or can the Saints pay it out and count it against this years number (assuming there's room)?saintly wrote:yep. it would be in the salary cap for next year.Life Long Saint wrote:Do we have to pay his salary next season?Saints Media wrote:The Club also made the difficult decision to delist Aaron Fiora.
Aaron was drafted by Richmond with pick three in the 1999 AFL Draft and played 78 games before St Kilda acquired his services in a three-way trade in 2004. The midfielder went on to play 62 games with the Saints, kicking 32 goals to give him a career tally of 58.
The Club thanks Aaron for his contribution and wishes him all the best for the future.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 25303
- Joined: Tue 01 Feb 2005 4:25pm
- Location: Trump Tower
- Has thanked: 142 times
- Been thanked: 284 times
- ace
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10800
- Joined: Sun 16 Dec 2007 3:28pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 31 times
- Been thanked: 838 times
I had Fiora down to come out of contract at the end of 2009.
Fiora's and his management would be foolish not to have the contract paid out.
If Fiora is picked up by another club, St Kida may only have to make up the difference.
That difference would count against the 2009 salary cap.
If St Kilda pay him out before they put in their final payments sheet for 2008 they could add the payout to the 2008 cap payments.
Then they only need to count any surplus against 2009.
That assumes they have any room left in the 2008 payments cap.
Either way it is a botch up to give a player a 2 year contract and dump him after 1.
But then there have been a lot of changes in off field personel and hence opinions within the club in the meantime.
Fiora's and his management would be foolish not to have the contract paid out.
If Fiora is picked up by another club, St Kida may only have to make up the difference.
That difference would count against the 2009 salary cap.
If St Kilda pay him out before they put in their final payments sheet for 2008 they could add the payout to the 2008 cap payments.
Then they only need to count any surplus against 2009.
That assumes they have any room left in the 2008 payments cap.
Either way it is a botch up to give a player a 2 year contract and dump him after 1.
But then there have been a lot of changes in off field personel and hence opinions within the club in the meantime.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
- St. Luke
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5268
- Joined: Wed 17 Mar 2004 12:34pm
- Location: Hiding at Telstra Dome!
You can't cut a team to ribbons because people think a player is too old. X is nowhere near too old IMO! Not comparing him to Harvs but there is an oldie and a bloody goodie! Overcame a spate of hamstring injuries and worked his body OUT!
We would have lost Raph if it was up to half the whingers on here, and guess what, the kid shined last season! Never burn your bridges before you know where they lead! Get up em X! Glad to see you back on board next season you good thing!
We would have lost Raph if it was up to half the whingers on here, and guess what, the kid shined last season! Never burn your bridges before you know where they lead! Get up em X! Glad to see you back on board next season you good thing!
When they created LENNY HAYES (in the shadow of Harvs) they forgot to break the mold (again)- hence the Supremely Incredible Jack Steven!!
- Saintschampions08
- Club Player
- Posts: 732
- Joined: Thu 31 Jan 2008 11:04am
He shined in the last 5 games of the year ...St. Luke wrote:You can't cut a team to ribbons because people think a player is too old. X is nowhere near too old IMO! Not comparing him to Harvs but there is an oldie and a bloody goodie! Overcame a spate of hamstring injuries and worked his body OUT!
We would have lost Raph if it was up to half the whingers on here, and guess what, the kid shined last season! Never burn your bridges before you know where they lead! Get up em X! Glad to see you back on board next season you good thing!
He didn't shine last year, he's played a few good games...