Shane Birss delisting....

Joffa Burns · Tue 21 Oct 2008 12:00pm

Birss....... must be very, very unlucky.

Played a forward defensive role on Heath Shaw and held him to less than ten touches while kicking three goals and barely gets another similar opportunity all season.

I think he would have done a better negative role on Hodge in the Prelim than the likes of Eddy.

I am no big fan of Birss but I think he is of AFL standard and good depth.
There are IMO players with much less value than Birss that have been retained.

Other than pursuing the lovely Mrs Lyon or internal infringement that the average fan is not privy to, I can not understand why this guy has been cast aside.

mad saint guy · Tue 21 Oct 2008 12:02pm

Birss is much more effective than Eddy, Jones or McQualter will ever be. Moronic decision.

Eastern · Post: # 665811Post **Eastern** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 12:04pm

I6t goes to show exactly how brutal the football industry is. Good Luck to him !!

chook23 · Post: # 665814Post **chook23** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 12:06pm

called we have different opinions. MSG

Their decision rather than a moronic one IMHO

Richter · Post: # 665815Post **Richter** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 12:07pm

I suppose that with the recruiting of Ray, and possible recruitment of BC, we needed to look at offloading a mid or two.....

Any of these could have gone....

Fiora - very lucky to have another year on his contract. Likely delisting next year

Fisher - perhaps his capacity to play as a defender has saved him. With Dempster own, Leigh may have an opp. to press his case for inclusion next season?

McQualter - younger, RL clearly favoured him over Birss this year (?why)

CJ - ditto

Attard - GONE

Howard - shown nada at AFL level, but contracted and still young. Would need to show something next year to stay on for another year though

Mr Magic · Post: # 665820Post **Mr Magic** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 12:10pm

Might alos have to do with the relative value of any playing contracts these various players may have?

Maybe Birss costs us more in $ than the others and if they are all rated by teh match committee at a similar level it may boil down to a simple cost-cutting exercise?

spert · Post: # 665851Post **spert** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 12:51pm

Birss is making way for Cousins

JeffDunne · Post: # 665855Post **JeffDunne** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 12:53pm

I reckon he was unlucky but if the coach isn't going to play him then why keep him?

Can't see much improvement on what he's shown so far. If that's not good enough or what they want from him then it makes sense to move him on.

Saints Premiers 2008 · Tue 21 Oct 2008 12:58pm

JeffDunne wrote:I reckon he was unlucky but if the coach isn't going to play him then why keep him?

Can't see much improvement on what he's shown so far. If that's not good enough or what they want from him then it makes sense to move him on.

youngens were palyed ahead of him and at times they looked out of their depth do i guess that shows where birss was held

evertonfc · Post: # 665867Post **evertonfc** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 1:31pm

Extremely stiff. I was on his back last year but he showed this year from limited opportunities that he was more than capable of providing solid back-up at short notice.

Should have been kept while other less talented and dependable players should have released.

A poor decision.

Saints43 · Post: # 665869Post **Saints43** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 1:32pm

I am not that surprised Birss has been delisted.

I was surprised when he was drapped, recalled and re-dropped last season. Seemed to have done nothing wrong. I really liked him. (More than some others who were selected)

There is obviously something RL doesn't rate about him. We must remember that we only see them two hours a week and there's a more to being an AFL player that just getting a kick. (Not suggesting any inside info...)

saintsrus · Post: # 665872Post **saintsrus** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 1:37pm

Farren Ray said Birss was the first to welcome him, looks like Birss didnt see it coming or they will pick him up again

bergsone · Post: # 665873Post **bergsone** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 1:37pm

If the coach wont play him why keep him,butstill rather see him in than more fiora etc.Like to hear RL reasoning why he was overlooked when others got game time.Very unlucky IMO

st.byron · Post: # 665874Post **st.byron** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 1:42pm

unlucky IMO. Maybe just the luck, or lack of it, of a guy like Fiora having another year of a contract.
For mine, Fiora is extremely lucky to be given another year on a senior list.
Birss at least had a willingness to go in and get the footy.
Fiora - a waste of a spot on the list and it buggers me why Lyon and co keep on giving him a chance.

Saint Mik · Post: # 665883Post **Saint Mik** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 2:07pm

More than happy with the delistings, as hard as it is NONE of these players will be missed in 09.

I do hope that Birrs gets picked up again as I think he is the best out of our delistings.

No more Rix rocks Rux which will be missed on here

Thanks to all players and good luck to you

SaintWodonga · Tue 21 Oct 2008 2:44pm

He was unlucky... I would have kept him. They must be almost certain we will get Cuz...

clarky449 · Post: # 665932Post **clarky449** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 3:42pm

I liked him i thought he had something but i hope another club picks him up

Moccha · Post: # 665936Post **Moccha** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 3:59pm

Maybe he will be relisted

Ghost Like · Post: # 665943Post **Ghost Like** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 4:17pm

Only baffling due to 3 or 4 others being retained, if those 3 or 4 had of been chopped as well then i don't think there would be too many issues.

yipper · Post: # 665946Post **yipper** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 4:20pm

SaintWodonga wrote:He was unlucky... I would have kept him. They must be almost certain we will get Cuz...

Yep. Reckon that will have been a factor. Perhaps a lack of pace for Birss was a problem?? Just seems to me he would have attracted some interest at the trade table if they were going to delist him anyway..

Gilbert=Legend · Tue 21 Oct 2008 4:50pm

Good to see a crap player get the boot, and it was a year late.

St Igmata · Post: # 665967Post **St Igmata** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 4:56pm

Birrs traded for pick number 61
61 = Josh Hill(Claremont now WB)

mick13 · Post: # 665970Post **mick13** » Tue 21 Oct 2008 4:58pm

Pretty unlikely we would have picked up Hill with Pick 61...

Con Gorozidis · Tue 21 Oct 2008 5:29pm

Eastern wrote:I6t goes to show exactly how brutal the football industry is. Good Luck to him !!

brutal for most agree. but then fiora plays 150 games over a very cruisy 10 year career. how easy is that?

arggh. life just aint fair.

Con Gorozidis · Tue 21 Oct 2008 5:33pm

yipper wrote:
SaintWodonga wrote:He was unlucky... I would have kept him. They must be almost certain we will get Cuz...
Yep. Reckon that will have been a factor. Perhaps a lack of pace for Birss was a problem?? Just seems to me he would have attracted some interest at the trade table if they were going to delist him anyway..

he must have shagged RL's missus.

I know he was slow. But the guy was competitive. i remember going to some games where were getting bullied and birss and lenny were the only 2 blokes who stood up and flew the flag when some of our guys were getting beat up. at least he has some mongrel, competetive spirit in him. more than i can see for most of our team.