interview with ricky nixon

[AlexisAustralis]

I beg to disagree. Nixon's comments regarding a club "with their own problems" has Collingwood written all over it.

Whether it is St Kilda or Brisbane who made the impressive presentation remains to be seen.

I'm a St.Kilda supporter, and I'm just saying it as I heard it from someone reliable. Apparently Collingwood came up with a proposal based on Mick Malthouse's intimate relationship that he has had with Ben Cousins since he coached him at West Coast, and recently he flew to Perth to begin the ground work on that. I think once Ben Cousins is permitted to play, then Collingwood will definitely announce their interest. I didn't hear the interview with Nixon, so I have not heard for myself exactly what he said, so I can't comment on who the club he may or may not have mentioned is.

[crackers35]

I know a few people have said this already but i've gotta say that i would be VERY proud if St.Kilda was the team who came up with the plan

I'd also be proud if we got Cousins and Collingwood didn't

[sax]

I beg to disagree. Nixon's comments regarding a club "with their own problems" has Collingwood written all over it.

Whether it is St Kilda or Brisbane who made the impressive presentation remains to be seen.

I'm a St.Kilda supporter, and I'm just saying it as I heard it from someone reliable. Apparently Collingwood came up with a proposal based on Mick Malthouse's intimate relationship that he has had with Ben Cousins since he coached him at West Coast, and recently he flew to Perth to begin the ground work on that. I think once Ben Cousins is permitted to play, then Collingwood will definitely announce their interest. I didn't hear the interview with Nixon, so I have not heard for myself exactly what he said, so I can't comment on who the club he may or may not have mentioned is.

You, my friend, are a Collingwood supporting TROLL!! Mr. "AlexuscentreAustralis"

[evertonfc]

Hope we recruit Ben and I'd be shocked if we came up with the plan, but it would be fantastic if this was the case.

why would you be shocked if we were the club that came up with the plan???

Because I wasn't expecting us to make such a detailed pitch. And I don't know if that whole mentoring and development side of things is something we've been big on in the post-GT era.

However, as I said, I sure hope it's true.

[AlexisAustralis]

You, my friend, are a Collingwood supporting TROLL!! Mr. "AlexuscentreAustralis"

No I'm not at all. Where did you get that from? I barrack for St.Kilda and i have never stated otherwise. I am just sharing what I have heard, and considering that Ben Cousins has bought a property in Port Melbourne, then it's obvious that if any club has withdrawn, then it is Brisbane. This following article suggests the very same thing. Again, I have heard that Collingwood presented a presentation based on Mick Malthouse's long relationship with Ben Cousins...

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/r ... 34754.html

BEN Cousins' manager has welcomed the AFL's assertion that players who test positive for drugs on game day could cost their team premiership points and said his client will do whatever it takes to return to football next year.

Ricky Nixon said yesterday the AFL's hardened interpretation of the drugs code was no deterrent to his star, who was deregistered last year for bringing the game into disrepute and has since admitted to struggling with a drug addiction.

"Whatever rules they want to put in place, we're here to accept them," Nixon said. "Footy is the absolute priority for Ben's rehabilitation, and if that means (the AFL) want to keep putting bridges or hurdles or whatever in the way, we're just going to keep walking over them or jumping them."

AFL boss Andrew Demetriou said on Monday that a team could have a win taken away from it if there was evidence that one player who had played a significant role in that game had tested positive to drugs on match day.

This was a considerable escalation of the rules under the league's anti-doping code, which state: "If more than one player in a club is found to have committed an anti-doping rule violation during a season, the club may be subject to sanctions to be determined, in their absolute discretion, by the commission." Those sanctions include overturning the result of games, among other penalties.

Cousins' bid to be re-registered as a player will be considered by the AFL Commission next month, when it will consider his medical record and efforts at rehabilitation as factors in whether he should be allowed to return to playing in the AFL. Nixon said while one club who was previously interested in recruiting Cousins was put off by Demetriou's statement, that has not been the case elsewhere.

"Quite the opposite," he said. "I met with a club today and we discussed it and we all thought that it's actually quite an incentive to make sure that Ben complies." Nixon said there are still two AFL clubs — believed to be St Kilda and Collingwood — in serious talks about taking on the 2005 Brownlow medallist next year.

AFL Players Association president Brendon Gale said while Demetriou's comments could be interpreted as being aimed at Cousins, it was not necessarily the case. "I can understand why some people might draw that inference, but I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt." Gale said there were several players who had tested positive to whom Demetriou's statement could also apply.

[CHBench]

As of last week, Collingwood was his preferred destination after meeting with the players and coaching staff recently, and according to a friend at Collingwood, they have put forward a proposal to help with his rehabilitation. Collingwood have been a bit quiet regarding Cousins lately, but that's understandable because he hasn't been re-registered by the AFL yet, but if he is permitted to enter the December draft, then I expect Collingwood to announce their interest then, and not before then. It could come down to who has the earlier draft pick between Collingwood and St.Kilda, and because St.Kilda beat Collingwood in the Semi Final, it means that Collingwood will most likely pick him first. If so, then reuniting Cousins with Michael Gardiner would not have been a wise choice anyway.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost. ... stcount=50

What a coincidence. The exact same thing, nearly word for word.

[Solar]

As of last week, Collingwood was his preferred destination after meeting with the players and coaching staff recently, and according to a friend at Collingwood, they have put forward a proposal to help with his rehabilitation. Collingwood have been a bit quiet regarding Cousins lately, but that's understandable because he hasn't been re-registered by the AFL yet, but if he is permitted to enter the December draft, then I expect Collingwood to announce their interest then, and not before then. It could come down to who has the earlier draft pick between Collingwood and St.Kilda, and because St.Kilda beat Collingwood in the Semi Final, it means that Collingwood will most likely pick him first. If so, then reuniting Cousins with Michael Gardiner would not have been a wise choice anyway.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost. ... stcount=50

What a coincidence. The exact same thing, nearly word for word.

ouch!!! not sure what is funnier, the carlton troll or the pies troll

thanks for the explanation everton,

[JeffDunne]

Funny how a thread discussing drug use would attract Carlton & Collingwood trolls like flies to s***.

Carlton is the only club I know that had a player actively dealing drugs in the locker room & Collingwood the only club I know that had a dealer selling 'caps' with memberships.

Two clubs that rival the Eagles for a history of drug abuse.

Should we start naming names?

[markp]

As of last week, Collingwood was his preferred destination after meeting with the players and coaching staff recently, and according to a friend at Collingwood, they have put forward a proposal to help with his rehabilitation. Collingwood have been a bit quiet regarding Cousins lately, but that's understandable because he hasn't been re-registered by the AFL yet, but if he is permitted to enter the December draft, then I expect Collingwood to announce their interest then, and not before then. It could come down to who has the earlier draft pick between Collingwood and St.Kilda, and because St.Kilda beat Collingwood in the Semi Final, it means that Collingwood will most likely pick him first. If so, then reuniting Cousins with Michael Gardiner would not have been a wise choice anyway.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost. ... stcount=50

What a coincidence. The exact same thing, nearly word for word.

Why would someone freakin bother????

Like it's gonna change the outcome what we think.... getting nervous maybe?

Banana of the week AlexisAustralis...

Douche of the week sainterstevos...

Cheers chaps.

[Bernard Shakey]

Irrelevant who has what pick, it is who uses the appropriate pick that matters.

Neither Saints nor Pies are going to use first or second round pick, but we have 47 and 48, I believe.

[Solar]

Irrelevant who has what pick, it is who uses the appropriate pick that matters.

Neither Saints nor Pies are going to use first or second round pick, but we have 47 and 48, I believe.

will go preseason draft not national

thus the pies do have the pick before us

but reading between the lines it seems the pies have gone cold on benny boy and its out of us or the lions

[Bernard Shakey]

Irrelevant who has what pick, it is who uses the appropriate pick that matters.

Neither Saints nor Pies are going to use first or second round pick, but we have 47 and 48, I believe.

will go preseason draft not national

thus the pies do have the pick before us

but reading between the lines it seems the pies have gone cold on benny boy and its out of us or the lions

Not if he nominates for the national draft.

[Con Gorozidis]

On the otherhand he said one club had come to him with a professional plan on how they would go about not only supporting ben as a player but as a person. This included bringing in people he respected to mentor him and support him through this. Nixon was very impressed, with alot of the content of this plan going beyond anything nixon had thought of.

i cant see who we would have at our club that benny would respect to be a mentor ? you could of said Harves but a) hes not here anymore and b) in the past Ben hasnt reallys shown any respect towards anyone in our team....... maybe Fraser ?? you wouldnt really consider MG as a mentor ....... i dont know i have a feeling we are not the team who has put forth the good plan with Voss at the lions i reckon it could be their plans ??

not sure it has to be from our club directly? we good still use someone outside the club as a mentor. i dont see that as a barrier at all?

saints could still organise someone as a mentor - not sure who - but lets say james hird or something. i mean it goes both ways. if carlton can hire harves - we can hire a legend from another club for a specific task.

[Con Gorozidis]

troll or no troll im not confident we will get him ahead of the pies. cuz's ego might make him lean towards the pies. big club. media. work outside footy etc etc.

[AlexisAustralis]

ouch!!! not sure what is funnier, the carlton troll or the pies troll)

Ha ha ha! Too funny! So I'm not the only one that has heard of this. Anyway, I am not here to troll or to defend myself and I barrack for St.Kilda. From what I have heard, Collingwood made a presentation and Brisbane is the team that has dropped out The two teams currently interested in him are St.Kilda and Collingwood. Time will tell what happens next I suppose.

troll or no troll im not confident we will get him ahead of the pies. cuz's ego might make him lean towards the pies. big club. media. work outside footy etc etc.

You're confident we'll get him but he might lean toward the Pies? That doesn't quite make sense. I think if he goes to Collingwood it will be because of the relationship he has had with his former coach Malthouse.

[joffaboy]

ouch!!! not sure what is funnier, the carlton troll or the pies troll)

Ha ha ha! Too funny! So I'm not the only one that has heard of this. Anyway, I am not here to troll or to defend myself and I barrack for St.Kilda. From what I have heard, Collingwood made a presentation and Brisbane is the team that has dropped out The two teams currently interested in him are St.Kilda and Collingwood. Time will tell what happens next I suppose.

troll or no troll im not confident we will get him ahead of the pies. cuz's ego might make him lean towards the pies. big club. media. work outside footy etc etc.

You're confident we'll get him but he might lean toward the Pies? That doesn't quite make sense. I think if he goes to Collingwood it will be because of the relationship he has had with his former coach Malthouse.

mate give it up. You have been caught out and you look pretty stupid.

Back to bigfooty for you where you can plagarise to your hearts content.

REally have embarrassed yourself.

[St Michele]

I hope we are the ones with the plan as it would show me we are behaving lke a professional club and have plans in place to cope with issues that crop up.

As for role models, I think Nick would be a great role model, he may be younger but he has been subjected to the same type of hype as Ben got ( maybe not so much since the media in Melbourne has more teams to worry about) and manged to behave and not be tempted.

Reuniting Michael Gardiner and Ben may also not be a bad thing, Gardener seems to have sorts his demons out and he may also be able to make sure Ben stays doing the same.

Being an addict wherever he goes he needs a lot of compassion and support and I hope we are the ones who get the chance to provide it.
Michele

[st_Trav_ofWA]

ouch!!! not sure what is funnier, the carlton troll or the pies troll)

Ha ha ha! Too funny! So I'm not the only one that has heard of this. Anyway, I am not here to troll or to defend myself and I barrack for St.Kilda. From what I have heard, Collingwood made a presentation and Brisbane is the team that has dropped out The two teams currently interested in him are St.Kilda and Collingwood. Time will tell what happens next I suppose.

troll or no troll im not confident we will get him ahead of the pies. cuz's ego might make him lean towards the pies. big club. media. work outside footy etc etc.

You're confident we'll get him but he might lean toward the Pies? That doesn't quite make sense. I think if he goes to Collingwood it will be because of the relationship he has had with his former coach Malthouse.

typical filth fan cant read !!!

[Moccha]

If he comes he comes if he doesn't he doesn't.

[Saints Premiers 2008]

I would be very proud if our club was the one with the detailed plan.

Thanks for the report Solar, and agree with your comment about the detailed plan.

I am still opposed to his recruiting, purely on my doubts on the football side (30yo, long time out of the game, hamstrings, etc.), but if the Saints have put up this plan, then that would be pretty impressive.

everyone has hamstrings...

but seriously all players have parts of them that are known to be problem spots i.e. roo's shoulders etc etc

everyone gets caught up in benny c's hamstrings because the last vision of him on a football field is him grabbing his hammy...

[markp]

I would be very proud if our club was the one with the detailed plan.

Thanks for the report Solar, and agree with your comment about the detailed plan.

I am still opposed to his recruiting, purely on my doubts on the football side (30yo, long time out of the game, hamstrings, etc.), but if the Saints have put up this plan, then that would be pretty impressive.

everyone has hamstrings...

but seriously all players have parts of them that are known to be problem spots i.e. roo's shoulders etc etc

everyone gets caught up in benny c's hamstrings because the last vision of him on a football field is him grabbing his hammy...

Hopefully our new and improved fitness department is a major selling point too.

[SENsei]

I would be very proud if our club was the one with the detailed plan.

Thanks for the report Solar, and agree with your comment about the detailed plan.

I am still opposed to his recruiting, purely on my doubts on the football side (30yo, long time out of the game, hamstrings, etc.), but if the Saints have put up this plan, then that would be pretty impressive.

everyone has hamstrings...

but seriously all players have parts of them that are known to be problem spots i.e. roo's shoulders etc etc

everyone gets caught up in benny c's hamstrings because the last vision of him on a football field is him grabbing his hammy...

Actually, I didn't remember that the last hamstring was actually in that game. I remember it now though. Football Park?

It was the one earlier that concerned me. He got selected and bang, hammy. And he was 28 then.

Now two years on, hammys have had 7 games in two seasons plus whatever else wear and tear.

I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm just sticking to my guns on my opinion.

If we get him, so be it. I'll jump on board.....at least until he does his first hammy!!

[Solar]

ouch!!! not sure what is funnier, the carlton troll or the pies troll)

Ha ha ha! Too funny! So I'm not the only one that has heard of this. Anyway, I am not here to troll or to defend myself and I barrack for St.Kilda. From what I have heard, Collingwood made a presentation and Brisbane is the team that has dropped out The two teams currently interested in him are St.Kilda and Collingwood. Time will tell what happens next I suppose.

troll or no troll im not confident we will get him ahead of the pies. cuz's ego might make him lean towards the pies. big club. media. work outside footy etc etc.

You're confident we'll get him but he might lean toward the Pies? That doesn't quite make sense. I think if he goes to Collingwood it will be because of the relationship he has had with his former coach Malthouse.

so what are these off field problems that brisbane have....???

your either a real idiot or just a filth troll.... whoops is there any difference??

[Saints Premiers 2008]

ouch!!! not sure what is funnier, the carlton troll or the pies troll)

Ha ha ha! Too funny! So I'm not the only one that has heard of this. Anyway, I am not here to troll or to defend myself and I barrack for St.Kilda. From what I have heard, Collingwood made a presentation and Brisbane is the team that has dropped out The two teams currently interested in him are St.Kilda and Collingwood. Time will tell what happens next I suppose.

troll or no troll im not confident we will get him ahead of the pies. cuz's ego might make him lean towards the pies. big club. media. work outside footy etc etc.

You're confident we'll get him but he might lean toward the Pies? That doesn't quite make sense. I think if he goes to Collingwood it will be because of the relationship he has had with his former coach Malthouse.

so what are these off field problems that brisbane have....???

your either a real idiot or just a filth troll.... whoops is there any difference??

if its what im thinking of brisbane could have major off-field problems...

[SainterK]

I'm a little confused...why do we think that the club that proposed a plan is Brisbane?