Does Eddy keep his spot?

kp83 · Post: # 644785Post **kp83** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 1:38pm

I love the way he goes about it and his endurance is obviously one of the best at the club, but I just thought he struggled a bit on Saturday. Particularly in 1 on 1 contests, he would spill a mark or go to ground too easily. I think the experience of 2 finals would have done him the world of good, but IMO Birss would be a better option in an intense prelim with his superior marking ability and better skills.

Mr Magic · Post: # 644787Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 1:40pm

Someone's gotta go out for Ball
Not Allen - he probably will be replaced with a 'tall'.

Animal Enclosure · Mon 15 Sep 2008 1:42pm

Tell him to wear stops in his boots FFS!

I'd be surprised if he gets dropped, I think he's one of Ross' favorites but Birss would be a better option (plenty of Hawks in the midfield that he could run with- Bateman possibly).

meher baba · Post: # 644795Post **meher baba** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 1:46pm

Assuming that Kosi gets off, we'd be presumably looking at bringing back Charlie or possibly Fiora (if fit: I've lost touch with the Fiora story) for Allen. I don't know what Lyon will do, but I would go with Fiora. Charlie's had his chances and has delivered a little, but not enough IMO. Fiora's run and long (albeit not particularly accurate) kicking might be useful against the dreaded midfield flood.

If Ball is fit, or if we promote Birss, it would presumably be a choice between Eddy and Armo. I would suspect that Lyon would be inclined to go with Eddy ahead of both Armo and Birss, and I tend to agree with him. Like many on here, I like the way Birss plays, but I think that Eddy is actually better than Birss at the job that Lyon wants him to do: floating on the outside, getting loose, distracting the defence.

I suppose the other option is to bring in Ball, Birss and Fiora for Eddy, Armo and Allen - with Fiora playing the Eddy role, Gwilt playing permanently forwafd in the Allen/Charie role, and Birss replacing Armo.

But I reckon that would be too much change.

B W and R all over · Mon 15 Sep 2008 1:50pm

Mr Magic wrote:Someone's gotta go out for Ball
Not Allen - he probably will be replaced with a 'tall'.

Well Allen effectively came in for Ball anyway.

Mr Magic · Post: # 644803Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 1:54pm

B W and R all over wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Someone's gotta go out for Ball
Not Allen - he probably will be replaced with a 'tall'.
Well Allen effectively came in for Ball anyway.

I reckon Allen actually came in for Charlie Gardiner.
Armo came in for X Clarke.

Ball wasn't in the team the week before.

saintsRrising · Mon 15 Sep 2008 1:55pm

Mr Magic wrote:
B W and R all over wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Someone's gotta go out for Ball
Not Allen - he probably will be replaced with a 'tall'.
Well Allen effectively came in for Ball anyway.
I reckon Allen actually came in for Charlie Gardiner.
Armo came in for X Clarke.

Ball wasn't in the team the week before.

Eaxctly...Ball was NEVER going to play against the Pies.

However...the Hawks rucks are lumberers...so Lyon with Kosi's return to form as a forward may elect to go with King and Blake in the ruck with Kois asa permanent forward (though will do the ruckwork in the forward 50)..

matrix · Post: # 644809Post **matrix** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 1:56pm

meher baba wrote:Assuming that Kosi gets off, we'd be presumably looking at bringing back Charlie or possibly Fiora (if fit: I've lost touch with the Fiora story) for Allen.

ok now im really, REALLY starting to get worried about u

Batnoe · Post: # 644812Post **Batnoe** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 1:57pm

I would love to bring Back Ferguson, i think he could step up and is a bit of an unknown and could work in our favour

i really want this guy to have a game and make it.. or his head is on the block!!

Legendary · Post: # 644835Post **Legendary** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 2:05pm

Was good against the Hawks last time from memory, and is going to be a massive part of our future.

Whether or not Robert Eddy plays is not going to determine whether we win on Saturday night.

Hence, I would play him ... give him more games, more experience and more time, so by this time next year we talk about him starting in the 18, rather than being on the fringe of the side.

The less changes the better too. We haven't made many in the past few weeks, and it's starting to pay off IMO.

OUT: Allen (inj)
IN: Ball (if fit, otherwise Birss)

Birss AND Ball can both be effective up forward if they need to be, so no worries there.

We need the extra run against Hawthorn too.

marksnsparks · Mon 15 Sep 2008 2:10pm

I think Eddy will stay in. He needs to stay on his feet though. Noticed a few times on Sat night him going in on a 1 on 1 contest and be beaten cause he went to ground. Just his inexperience i suppose.

Should be a gun next year.

hotdish · Post: # 644852Post **hotdish** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 2:19pm

If L Ball is fit, McQualter or Eddy would be the man to drop out...

Allen - C Gardiner

maverick · Post: # 644883Post **maverick** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 2:41pm

I think Ball for Eddy, Eddy can lay a tackle but doesn't get it enough and has had plenty of game time to prove himself, Armo just ahead of him on feel alone I reckon...Armo's use of the ball marginally better...

The big one is Allen's replacement, we need the extra tall, its a must, only options in ressies really are Gardiner, Ferguson and McEvoy...none deserve their spot... I would probably go for Ferguson, with the big worry that he has played in defence of late....very tough call...

From what I saw yesterday, Birss was OK, as was X, McEvoy struggled, as did Ferg in defence and Charlie up forward....someone will be lucky I feel....

Big week selection wise....

Persuader · Post: # 644903Post **Persuader** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 2:51pm

Thought Eddy was good on Sat. night....strong body in the forward line, lovely pass to Dal - just needs to work on his goal kicking accuracy.
He's going to be a gun.

Legendary · Post: # 644917Post **Legendary** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 2:58pm

Don't forget against Hawthorn last time, Ross Lyon picked the extra "runner" ... went with a faster and pacier side ... it worked.

No reason to replace Allen with a tall this week IMO.

Roughead - S. Fisher
Franklin - Hudghton
R. Campbell (when forward) - Blake
Williams - Gilbert (was good last time)
Rioli - Jones

We have them covered down back ...

spert · Post: # 644923Post **spert** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 3:02pm

We need someone extra who can slot goals from the half forward line. I think Charlie is a bit slow, so I don't know who would be the best for that role -I think Birss is still worth a shot.

WayneJudson42 · Mon 15 Sep 2008 3:03pm

YES... why wouldn't he? If he wasn't doing his job, he'd have been dropped by now.

Proven performers only. thank you very much.

older saint · Mon 15 Sep 2008 3:05pm

Legendary wrote:Don't forget against Hawthorn last time, Ross Lyon picked the extra "runner" ... went with a faster and pacier side ... it worked.

No reason to replace Allen with a tall this week IMO.

Roughead - S. Fisher
Franklin - Hudghton
R. Campbell (when forward) - Blake
Williams - Gilbert (was good last time)
Rioli - Jones

We have them covered down back ...

Expect Jones to goto Hodge if he plays across half back.

Duggie1 · Post: # 644943Post **Duggie1** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 3:33pm

marksnsparks wrote:I think Eddy will stay in. He needs to stay on his feet though. Noticed a few times on Sat night him going in on a 1 on 1 contest and be beaten cause he went to ground. Just his inexperience i suppose.

Should be a gun next year.

Agree. Two feet on the ground is half way to saving a turnover. The Pies found this (and a few others as well) against us.

Art Vandelay · Mon 15 Sep 2008 4:01pm

For what it's worth......IMO

Out: Allen, Eddy
In: Ball, Birss

nicko016 · Post: # 644994Post **nicko016** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 4:20pm

Art Vandelay wrote:For what it's worth......IMO

Out: Allen, Eddy
In: Ball, Birss

That's what im thinking, but if Ball doesn't come up just Birss for Allen. In regards to Eddy its a toss up between him and McQualter but Mini may get the role in Mitchell. Some are suggesting Armo but his attack on the ball contributes a bit and he won some good 50-50 balls on the weekend from either hardball gets or winning the free from being first in.

degruch · Post: # 644996Post **degruch** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 4:23pm

Legendary wrote:Don't forget against Hawthorn last time, Ross Lyon picked the extra "runner" ... went with a faster and pacier side ... it worked.

No reason to replace Allen with a tall this week IMO.

Roughead - S. Fisher
Franklin - Hudghton
R. Campbell (when forward) - Blake
Williams - Gilbert (was good last time)
Rioli - Jones

We have them covered down back ...

RL will go for a similar mosquito fleet this time IMO...puts pressure on the likes of Hodge, Mitchell, Bateman, Crawford, Lewis and gives us a chance to out-run their rolling flood. Remember Jones running down Buddy last time...man, I'd love to see that again!

Can't see why you'd replace Eddy, he's been doing a good job, has a cool head and seems to gel well with the other members of the team. We should dominate the ruck, so why make the team top-heavy. I agree with most, Ball or Birss in for Allen - no need to make unnecessary changes and upset the team balance, we match up well with the Hawks.

stinger · Post: # 644998Post **stinger** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 4:25pm

ball for allen...full stop......before anyone goes on about eddy...go back and look at the game on tape ffs......he played a serviceable game......

sax · Post: # 645003Post **sax** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 4:33pm

stinger wrote:ball for allen...full stop......before anyone goes on about eddy...go back and look at the game on tape ffs......he played a serviceable game......

Watched the game twice, and both times it didn't change!
He only had 9 pos, 4 tackles. THAT'S IT!!!!
Not enough to guaranty a spot this week!!!
He'll be unlucky to be dropped, but I would!!!!

In: Ball, M. Gardiner
Out: Eddy, Allen (inj)

Schillaci · Post: # 645005Post **Schillaci** » Mon 15 Sep 2008 4:34pm

If Ball plays, the one change for Allen. If he doesn't, Birss gets his recall and still the one change. It was a great win and there's no need to mess around with "the winning team"