in: gehrig

[Gehrigs_son]

needs to be done

[degruch]

needs to be done

Hmmm...I could see this coming. He got pantsed the last time he played against the Pies. Mind you, he was also a scapegoat for some shocking forward delivery.

[evertonfc]

Not interested in forwards who don't have second efforts or apply pressure.

[ausfatcat]

times over for the G-Train, it's done and dusted not going to happen, GET OVER IT


Just a couple of reasons why no where near match fit (hasn't played for several months)
Hands still not right.

[St Michele]

I doubt it if you saw his interview on Sunday he looked like he had a huge lump on his hand, did not look good at all.

Michele

[Geezer]

not a chance with no game time in 7 months.
it would be great for a fairytale but not in the real world.

if the AFL went to an 8 man bench.. then maybe

[bigcarl]

can't see fraser getting a run unfortunately.

i'd bring in allen, though, for gwilt or eddy.

[degruch]

can't see fraser getting a run unfortunately.

i'd bring in allen, though, for gwilt or eddy.

Yes, a specialist forward please. It's true, poor old Fraze is toast, unless that lump on his hand is an extra hand grafted on during recent surgery, forget about it. The fact that Gwilt got leave to push forward Sunday, seems to suggest he wasn't much chop down back (too slow for the Cats). Although he had a reasonable game against the Pies last time, maybe he should go this week? Eddy applies good pressure...we need that.

[bigcarl]

can't see fraser getting a run unfortunately.

i'd bring in allen, though, for gwilt or eddy.

Yes, a specialist forward please.

the other option would be to play bj at ff and roo at chf.

problem is that bj can be so good around the ground and you'd possibly be robbing peter to pay paul.

[4ever_saint]

Ross already said in his press conference after the game that he wouldnt be recalled. would be a great idea, but i dont see fraser playing again. hope I'm wrong.

[remboy]

the other option would be to play bj at ff and roo at chf.

problem is that bj can be so good around the ground and you'd possibly be robbing peter to pay paul.

The problem with putting BJ at FF is that we need him setting up the play and delievering the ball into the forward line. Our skill level was deplorable yesterday and it won't improve if we take BJ out of the action.

[degruch]

can't see fraser getting a run unfortunately.

i'd bring in allen, though, for gwilt or eddy.

Yes, a specialist forward please.

the other option would be to play bj at ff and roo at chf.

problem is that bj can be so good around the ground and you'd possibly be robbing peter to pay paul.

It's a huge problem with BJ...he's a 30 possession utility, I don't think we can afford to have him sitting up front when he's been one of the primary ball movers up to the forward line. Having Dempster go down with a knee was not good (especially for him), as it shifts the balance of the team and reduces our options.

[Con Gorozidis]

Not interested in forwards who don't have second efforts or apply pressure.

So how do u tolerate Kozi and Charlie Gardiner?

[Hurricane]

in: My grandma

She is 78 years old but at least she is more mobile than Fraser

BANG BANG

[lefty]

I cant see us seriously being dangerous without a forward line structure.
Our gamestyle is ridiculously defensive as it is. When we go forward, we look hesistant nor look like winning at all. Too reactive.

Simply relying on Roo as our main and only target is ridiculous.

I know Schnider/Milne/Charlie can help kick a few here or there, but their not going to take the big marks. These guys crumb/kick the goals that the big targets dont mark/drop. If there's no target to kick to, there's no cruming. I think this is part of the reason why delivery into the forward line is horrible.

A. Opposition know where we are going to kick to.
B. Player's reliase its a 2on1 and get confused.

I think we've tried Kozi enough at Full Forward. He simply cannot do it. For this reason, I seriously think we need G-train there. I wonder what Roo thinks when he marks it outside the 50m arch looking for a target? Who is the target exactly?

[bigcarl]

I cant see us seriously being dangerous without a forward line structure.
Our gamestyle is ridiculously defensive as it is. When we go forward, we look hesistant nor look like winning at all. Too reactive.

Simply relying on Roo as our main and only target is ridiculous.

I know Schnider/Milne/Charlie can help kick a few here or there, but their not going to take the big marks. These guys crumb/kick the goals that the big targets dont mark/drop. If there's no target to kick to, there's no cruming. I think this is part of the reason why delivery into the forward line is horrible.

A. Opposition know where we are going to kick to.
B. Player's reliase its a 2on1 and get confused.

I think we've tried Kozi enough at Full Forward. He simply cannot do it. For this reason, I seriously think we need G-train there. I wonder what Roo thinks when he marks it outside the 50m arch looking for a target? Who is the target exactly?

agree with all that you've said. i just can't see ross going back on his decision on fraser. it's final. done and dusted.

perhaps allen comes in, though it is a lot to ask of a kid playing his fourth? game.

or (at the risk of robbing peter to pay paul) use bj at ff. would give us something aside from roo to kick to, but at the same time might leave us short of class around the ground.

[Moccha]

Might as well bring Stewie Loewe and Nicky Winmar back

[saintjake]

we cant jsut say
"oh eddy applies good pressure, lets keep him even tho his handful of touches are clangers"

jones at leasts gets a lot more ball.
we need the WHOLE team unit, to apply pressure,
and bring in players who can with the ball and dispose of it right.
geary armo and birss, espically birss,
dont know why x and eddy and prefered to them

[WayneJudson42]

Might as well bring Stewie Loewe and Nicky Winmar back

Isn't Jason Heatly still playing??

[degruch]

we cant jsut say
"oh eddy applies good pressure, lets keep him even tho his handful of touches are clangers"

jones at leasts gets a lot more ball.
we need the WHOLE team unit, to apply pressure,
and bring in players who can with the ball and dispose of it right.
geary armo and birss, espically birss,
dont know why x and eddy and prefered to them

But we dropped Geary and Armo because they applied no pressure and their handful of possesions were clangers...at least Eddy's hungry for it. Yeah, he doesn't feature in the BOG, but I haven't seen him turn in a shocker. Guys like Jones (whom I put the same arguement for about 3 weeks back in a thread protesting we should drop him) and Eddy will keep going when guys like Gram and Dal drop off...we need them, as they have the ability to pick the team up.

X is a proven player...the run against the Cats will help him get back into form. Totally agree with you re: Birss. Given his mid-season game against the Pies where he shut down Heath Shaw, he should be getting a run this week.

[saintbob]

Why would Gehrig want to play, we refuse to kick to anyone but Riewoldt. Charlie and Kosi were free on numerous occassions yesterday, but where did we kick it, to Rooy who was being double and triple team all day.

FAR TO PREDICTABLE

[St. Luke]

Interesting to hear Malthouse reckons Gehrig can still be selected. Maybe no-one has told him about the so-called retirement of the G-Train. Makes me really wonder if people know half of what they claim on here

[bigcarl]

Interesting to hear Malthouse reckons Gehrig can still be selected. Maybe no-one has told him about the so-called retirement of the G-Train. Makes me really wonder if people know half of what they claim on here

malthouse playing mind games. perhaps he's a little apprehensive about it though

[St. Luke]

If he wanted to do that, all he'd have to say was two words - Shaw, Didak

[S.A Saint]

I believe that at seasons end we should make frase our forward line coach and sack whats his face barkers. frase will be able to understand the players game more and adapt the forward set up accordingly.

just my 2 bob