Kerr

[markp]

and we have plenty to offer as trade bait.

We do? Who?

WC will not takea dud for Kerr.

How bout 2 duds?!

I think you put aside your non-negotiables and go for gold.....

[saintsRrising]

and we have plenty to offer as trade bait.

We do? Who?

WC will not take a dud for Kerr.

How bout 2 duds?!

I think you put aside your non-negotiables and go for gold.....

So if WC say give us Armo + Steven, would you?


I think WC will want low picks or quality youth...and not players in their prime years and certainly not any older players.


If you look at the players they already have at the club who are 22 or younger they havea pretty handy pool. This years early pick/s will only make it better.

Trading Kerr would be used to increase the quality of their youth coming through IMO...

Lecras, Mark 36 22yr 30 Aug 1986 182cm 82kg West Perth Forward
24 Rosa, Matthew 48 21yr 9mth 23 Nov 1986 189cm 82kg North Ballarat Rebels Midfield
27 McKinley, Benjamin 19 21yr 6mth 4 Mar 1987 184cm 82kg Northern Knights Forward
30 Spangher, Matthew 7 21yr 4mth 23 Apr 1987 193cm 90kg Eastern Ranges Defender
17 Kennedy, Joshua 29 21yr 25 Aug 1987 196cm 99kg East Fremantle Forward
25 Hurn, Shannon 36 21yr 4 Sep 1987 186cm 96kg Central District Defender
33 Thomson, James 0 20yr 6mth 18 Feb 1988 194cm 91kg Claremont Defender
12 McNamara, Jamie 13 20yr 6mth 6 Mar 1988 183cm 87kg East Fremantle Midfield
16 MacKenzie, Eric 8 20yr 3mth 19 May 1988 196cm 94kg Claremont Defender
36 Wilson, Callum (R) 0 20yr 2mth 9 Jun 1988 191cm 94kg South Fremantle Defender
Forward
1 Brown, Mitchell 5 19yr 8mth 17 Dec 1988 194cm 95kg Nth Ballarat Forward
31 Schofield, Will 12 19yr 7mth 24 Jan 1989 195cm 88kg Geelong Falcons Defender
19 Houlihan, Tim 8 19yr 6mth 10 Feb 1989 189cm 79kg Nth Ballarat Defender
48 McGinnity, Patrick 0 19yr 6mth 18 Feb 1989 184cm 78kg Claremont Midfield
43 Arrowsmith, Ashley (R) 0 19yr 4mth 12 Apr 1989 188cm 82kg Calder Cannons Midfield
13 Masten, Chris 9 19yr 4mth 2 May 1989 180cm 76kg East Fremantle Midfield
45 Davis, Ryan (R) 11 19yr 3mth 7 Jun 1989 189cm 82kg North Shore Forward
47 Stevenson, Lewis (R) 0 19yr 1mth 30 Jul 1989 185cm 79kg Claremont Midfield
40 Sullivan, Will (R) 0 19yr 24 Aug 1989 202cm 94kg Western Jets Ruck
28 Selwood, Scott 9 18yr 5mth 27 Mar 1990 185cm 80kg Bendigo Pioneers Defender
Midfield
18 Ebert, Bradley 15 18yr 5mth 2 Apr 1990 188cm 83kg Port Adelaide Magpies Midfield
34 Notte, Tony 2 18yr 4mth 15 Apr 1990 194cm 71kg Swan Districts Forward

[Richter]

So if WC say give is Armo + Steven, would you?

In a heartbeat - Armo is a pick 8 who is performing as a mid 20s pick. Steven picked up at 42 and has not even debuted yet.

They'd want at least our first pick too though.

[WayneJudson42]

Who's to say that a 3 way deal won't happen? Oour player to a 3rd club in exchange for a draft pick... on traded to WCE?

[St Igmata]

Who's to say that a 3 way deal won't happen? Oour player to a 3rd club in exchange for a draft pick... on traded to WCE?

What do you propose?

[markp]

Who's to say that a 3 way deal won't happen? Oour player to a 3rd club in exchange for a draft pick... on traded to WCE?

That was my thinking too... or kosi and our first pick, but I was always crap at footy card trading.

[The Saintsational Man]

St Kilda send Nick Dal Santo to Essendon.

Essendon send picks to West Coast.

West Coast send us Daniel Kerr.

[St Igmata]

Not much depth around and an ageing list without too much elite talent coming through and the club should hand over the first pick and a player for a guy that played 10 games this year?
Is this a denial of where the club is at ?
Would Kerr minus Kosi and our first round draft pick help the club win a premiership against the likes of Geelong and Hawthorn?

[St Igmata]

St Kilda send Nick Dal Santo to Essendon.

Essendon send picks to West Coast.

West Coast send us Daniel Kerr.

What picks ?

[WayneJudson42]

St Kilda send Nick Dal Santo to Essendon.

Essendon send picks to West Coast.

West Coast send us Daniel Kerr.

And you took the words right out of my mouth... it must have been while you were kissing me

Kosi to the Dees? Take a look at lower 8 clubs and see what they need. And then see if we have it to offer them.

I'm actually reluctant to trade Dal unless he wants to go. I think he can do a great Mcleod type role for us down back.

Lenny and Ball will remain our insiders... Joey?

Keep Gram as an outsside runner... adds pace.

[The Saintsational Man]

St Kilda send Nick Dal Santo to Essendon.

Essendon send picks to West Coast.

West Coast send us Daniel Kerr.

What picks ?

Doesn't concern us.....all we worry about is getting Kerr in exchange for one of our players.

[The Saintsational Man]

St Kilda send Nick Dal Santo to Essendon.

Essendon send picks to West Coast.

West Coast send us Daniel Kerr.

And you took the words right out of my mouth... it must have been while you were kissing me

Kosi to the Dees? Take a look at lower 8 clubs and see what they need. And then see if we have it to offer them.

I'm actually reluctant to trade Dal unless he wants to go. I think he can do a great Mcleod type role for us down back.

Lenny and Ball will remain our insiders... Joey?

Keep Gram as an outsside runner... adds pace.

Joey is going no where, he'll be fine, will be very valuable.

Should be interesting.

[kaos theory]

IF we are to trade to get Kerr, then we must NOT trade away quality mids to get him. This will leave us back to where we started from.

I would not trade any of:

- Lenny
- Ball
- Dal
- Monty
- Gram
etc...

We need to ADD to this with more QUALITY mids.

Getting Kerr to add to this would be great, Getting Kerr & Cousins would be even better....

[SainterX]

One would think this may be a roundabout kind of deal where we send someone to a different club, they send a pick and a player to WC and we get Kerr.

A lot more possibilities that way for sure.

[WayneJudson42]

Not much depth around and an ageing list without too much elite talent coming through and the club should hand over the first pick and a player for a guy that played 10 games this year?
Is this a denial of where the club is at ?
Would Kerr minus Kosi and our first round draft pick help the club win a premiership against the likes of Geelong and Hawthorn?

And will the status quo make us any better?

Would not give a 1st round pick... unless you get one from another club.

If Kerr is out of contract, then WCE won't have much leverage IMO.

What they ask for and what they get... all talk and bluster.

Anyone who understands the first thing about negotiation will know that you start with the highest price... then work it down until you get a fair deal.

To say that there's no way we can get him... is ludicrous. If the club sees him as an important part of our future, and they believe that some of our better players are dispensible, they'll throw what they need to at WCE.

[St Igmata]

One would think this may be a roundabout kind of deal where we send someone to a different club, they send a pick and a player to WC and we get Kerr.

A lot more possibilities that way for sure.

Pick 12/14/16 and which player?

[saintsRrising]

St Kilda send Nick Dal Santo to Essendon.

Essendon send picks to West Coast.

West Coast send us Daniel Kerr.

Well at least that is plausible...

unlike the suggestions that Kosi could get you Kerr, as he would not unless there where more valuable components to the deal.

[markp]

Not much depth around and an ageing list without too much elite talent coming through and the club should hand over the first pick and a player for a guy that played 10 games this year?
Is this a denial of where the club is at ?
Would Kerr minus Kosi and our first round draft pick help the club win a premiership against the likes of Geelong and Hawthorn?

You have to ask when are we aiming to have a crack at a flag?... do we want kerr?... what would they want/take for him?... kosi has really given us sfa and wont be missed.

IF we really want Kerr, the first question should be to WC "what do you want?"... then take it from there.....

[evertonfc]

Will be officially gutted if we don't end up with one of Kerr, Didak or Cousins next year.

I'm hoping it's one of Didak or Kerr + Cousins in the PSD.

Kerr is the one I'd really love. He's got some great years of footy ahead and is just a freak.

Imagine how much it would add to our midfield...

[SainterX]

Well I am sure there are plenty of WA boys in Melbourne who might not mind going home to play
And a lot of sucker teams around who may just value our fringe players a little higher then we do

[St Igmata]

Not much depth around and an ageing list without too much elite talent coming through and the club should hand over the first pick and a player for a guy that played 10 games this year?
Is this a denial of where the club is at ?
Would Kerr minus Kosi and our first round draft pick help the club win a premiership against the likes of Geelong and Hawthorn?

And will the status quo make us any better?

Would not give a 1st round pick... unless you get one from another club.

If Kerr is out of contract, then WCE won't have much leverage IMO.

What they ask for and what they get... all talk and bluster.


Anyone who understands the first thing about negotiation will know that you start with the highest price... then work it down until you get a fair deal.

To say that there's no way we can get him... is ludicrous. If the club sees him as an important part of our future, and they believe that some of our better players are dispensible, they'll throw what they need to at WCE.

There are a few factors to consider.
1) Kerr is under contract and his only option is not StKilda.
2)Would Kerr go to a club with no home ground training facilities?
3)You're dreaming if you think WC would let Kerr go for not much.

[WayneJudson42]

Well I am sure there are plenty of WA boys in Melbourne who might not mind going home to play
And a lot of sucker teams around who may just value our fringe players a little higher then we do

CJ to Freeo?

[WayneJudson42]

Not much depth around and an ageing list without too much elite talent coming through and the club should hand over the first pick and a player for a guy that played 10 games this year?
Is this a denial of where the club is at ?
Would Kerr minus Kosi and our first round draft pick help the club win a premiership against the likes of Geelong and Hawthorn?

And will the status quo make us any better?

Would not give a 1st round pick... unless you get one from another club.

If Kerr is out of contract, then WCE won't have much leverage IMO.

What they ask for and what they get... all talk and bluster.


Anyone who understands the first thing about negotiation will know that you start with the highest price... then work it down until you get a fair deal.

To say that there's no way we can get him... is ludicrous. If the club sees him as an important part of our future, and they believe that some of our better players are dispensible, they'll throw what they need to at WCE.

There are a few factors to consider.
1) Kerr is under contract and his only option is not StKilda.
2)Would Kerr go to a club with no home ground training facilities?
3)You're dreaming if you think WC would let Kerr go for not much.

Wasn't aware of his contract TBH.

Training facilities? Non factor... I'd suggest a shot at a flag would be more incentive IMO.

Dreamimg? Not really. Time will tell. Anything can happen.

Just ask Port and Nick Stevens

[The Saintsational Man]

IF we are to trade to get Kerr, then we must NOT trade away quality mids to get him. This will leave us back to where we started from.

I would not trade any of:

- Lenny
- Ball
- Dal
- Monty
- Gram
etc...

We need to ADD to this with more QUALITY mids.

Getting Kerr to add to this would be great, Getting Kerr & Cousins would be even better....

If Kerr and maybe Cousins came in we would have to get rid of 1.

Out of the above list and in terms of playing good football throughout the year, Dal would be on the chopping block.

[evertonfc]

What will lower Kerr's value is a declaration he wants to leave. His stocks have been dented by a bad injury run and some of his off-field antics.

Also in our favour is that there is a highly increased value on draft picks this year.

But you're talking about a top three player here, so the price has to be high.

We might get him 'under the odds', so to speak. I sure hope we can broke a deal that reflects this.

I'd give away our first two picks quite assuredly, to be honest.