Wont beat the best team while we have this forward structure
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- borderbarry
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Wont beat the best team while we have this forward structure
Wont beat the best team while we have this forward structure. We need to find a forward of Charlie Gardiner's size who has talent to give our forward line some bite. we cant rely on Rieoldt and Milne in the finals. Next week we should bring in either Ferguson or Allen. If Charlie could not fire against his old club he never will.
Gwilt or Gehrig or Ferguson or Allen then?
Personally, even though it is impossible most likely I would like to see Fraser play when we make it through to the last day in September.
Even if its just for the purpose of running over people it may make a few Cat defenders think twice about where he is
Personally, even though it is impossible most likely I would like to see Fraser play when we make it through to the last day in September.
Even if its just for the purpose of running over people it may make a few Cat defenders think twice about where he is
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Fraser isn't this type of physical 'take 'em out' player...not sure why many on here go on about this....a huge misconception!!!SainterX wrote:Gwilt or Gehrig or Ferguson or Allen then?
Personally, even though it is impossible most likely I would like to see Fraser play when we make it through to the last day in September.
Even if its just for the purpose of running over people it may make a few Cat defenders think twice about where he is
Our fwd structure today was confusing - in a T formation from the goal square to CHF...I think it gave the opportunity to double & at time triple team Roo when there was a quick kick out of the centre,,,feel we would have been better off with less numbers and isolating Roo/Kosi with Yapper/Schneider.
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Ah you read me wrong friend.Fraser isn't this type of physical 'take 'em out' player...not sure why many on here go on about this....a huge misconception!!!
Fraser on the lead in the middle of a pack, bumping a defender out of the way is how I see him running over people, not in an illegal Alastair Lynch kind of way
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Nothing wrong with the forward structure - its the delivery that was the main problem today. Secondarily some of the individuals had an off day......
Roo - poor game by his lofty standards - we are so reliant on him for 2 reasons - 1/ hes our best player 2/ Kosi and Cg not taking many marks inside 50
Kosi - anonymous up front. his poor form a worry.
Cg - tries, but only getting a gig because Allen/Ferg have not shown more.
Roo - poor game by his lofty standards - we are so reliant on him for 2 reasons - 1/ hes our best player 2/ Kosi and Cg not taking many marks inside 50
Kosi - anonymous up front. his poor form a worry.
Cg - tries, but only getting a gig because Allen/Ferg have not shown more.
Hird... The unflushable one is now... just a turd...
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Exactly what I was going to type....Richter wrote:Nothing wrong with the forward structure - its the delivery that was the main problem today. Secondarily some of the individuals had an off day......
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Charlie Gardiner is too slow in both by foot and mind to play up the half forward...
If played his best position would be FP and take some grabs
We are too one dimensional and predictable going into the forward 50 and when we're not the delivery is crap....
I would like to see Fergs given his 3rd chance for the season, he can provide another forward marking option, but I somehow doubt it....
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St Fidelius wrote:Exactly what I was going to type....Richter wrote:Nothing wrong with the forward structure - its the delivery that was the main problem today. Secondarily some of the individuals had an off day......
But....
Charlie Gardiner is too slow in both by foot and mind to play up the half forward...
If played his best position would be FP and take some grabs
We are too one dimensional and predictable going into the forward 50 and when we're not the delivery is crap....
I would like to see Fergs given his 3rd chance for the season, he can provide another forward marking option, but I somehow doubt it....
Well there wasn't too much right with the fwd structure if we only kicked 8 gls from only 8 less entries into the fwd 50!
Fair enough setting up how we did in the first half, but obviously not working so try something different. Push a few up towards the midfield, letting them run in with the flight of the ball with Roo and Kosi left 1 or 2 out and a small fwd at their feet, just mix it up a little and not play on the cats terms - they thrive on Harley, Milburn, Scarlett & Mackie's collective run off the full back & half back lines.
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Totally agree, but I think the forwards had no room to move so the mids had to pinpoint their passes....just feel we need to protect the ball carrier a little more to enable better execution....with more numbers up the ground this may be a possibility.bigcarl wrote:it came in under extreme pressure, but you have a point.Jack Daniels Magic wrote:Well there wasn't too much right with the fwd structure if we only kicked 8 gls from only 8 less entries into the fwd 50!
perhaps allen in next week?
We seemed to have to push wide on the lead and no real room to move about in our fwd 50.
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Dead right, we dropped protection of the ball carrier today and also did not protect the fringe players at contests so Geelong forced many turnovers here and at HB due to poor delivery.Jack Daniels Magic wrote:Totally agree, but I think the forwards had no room to move so the mids had to pinpoint their passes....just feel we need to protect the ball carrier a little more to enable better execution....with more numbers up the ground this may be a possibility.bigcarl wrote:it came in under extreme pressure, but you have a point.Jack Daniels Magic wrote:Well there wasn't too much right with the fwd structure if we only kicked 8 gls from only 8 less entries into the fwd 50!
perhaps allen in next week?
We seemed to have to push wide on the lead and no real room to move about in our fwd 50.
We know we haven't the same class in kicking to players as Geelong so we must become smarter at protcting the ball carriers.
Interestingly our insiders found it difficult today as Geelong players bundled them out of the way many times to get good clearances.
Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.
You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
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St Fidelius wrote:Exactly what I was going to type....Richter wrote:Nothing wrong with the forward structure - its the delivery that was the main problem today. Secondarily some of the individuals had an off day......
But....
Charlie Gardiner is too slow in both by foot and mind to play up the half forward...
If played his best position would be FP and take some grabs
We are too one dimensional and predictable going into the forward 50 and when we're not the delivery is crap....
I would like to see Fergs given his 3rd chance for the season, he can provide another forward marking option, but I somehow doubt it....
A bit of a contradiction - St Fid!!
We are too one dimensional....isn't that why you would change the fwd structure??
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