Our Culture.. something to be proud of

[howlinwolf]

After reading all the smoke and mirrors coming from The Pies over the Heath Shaw/ Allan Didak controversy I can't help but feel proud of our Club role models.

Harves.. 21 years and not a SINGLE bit of controversy. He exudes pride and dignity in himself,his club and his family.
Luke Ball.. Courageous application to a task and an inspiring role model.
Lenny Hayes .. ditto
Nick Reiwoldt .. takes less then par personal and club performance very hard.
Brendon Goddard .. ditto Nick

This is what makes me proud to be a Sainter. Not 16 flags or whatever the Pies have.
Flags at all costs seem to be the go for some Clubs. Read Carlton as well.

These guys can't win a flag on their own but by hell they can hold their heads up high.

We've had our dark days with culture but our Club is in good shape now.

[Armoooo]

We're not all clean over here but atm we are probably the best behaved team, both on and off the field, it is good to have such good members of society represent the club... Having said that though we could have the same thing happen to us next week and we will look like idiots...

[The Saintsational Man]

I see the boys out from time to time having a few cups and they are ALWAYS well behaved.

We've come a long way since the old days.

[HardSaint]

dont go patting us on the back too soon - a scandal is never too far away.

[Solar]

just need to keep focusing on the game boys

[st_Trav_ofWA]

i cant understand why these guys who are in a dream job getting payed big time $$$ flirt with danger and risk their carreer ... i mean maybe its just me but if i was an AFL footballer and i knew the media would scruitenise every slip up i had i would limit my alcohol consumption to 2 beers and make sure i was at home in bed by 1030pm each night i mean with the exception of Harvey most players have a 8-10 year window to earn as much money play as many games and win as many flags as they can surely you would be able to put you party life on hold for that time to secure your future ??

[The Oracale]

i cant understand why these guys who are in a dream job getting payed big time $$$ flirt with danger and risk their carreer ... i mean maybe its just me but if i was an AFL footballer and i knew the media would scruitenise every slip up i had i would limit my alcohol consumption to 2 beers and make sure i was at home in bed by 1030pm each night i mean with the exception of Harvey most players have a 8-10 year window to earn as much money play as many games and win as many flags as they can surely you would be able to put you party life on hold for that time to secure your future ??

"You can take the boy out of the hood, but you cannot take the hood out of the boy"

Some people don't won't/don't change - regardless of their status in society.

[GrumpyOne]

My culture is growing in the back of my fridge.

[degruch]

i cant understand why these guys who are in a dream job getting payed big time $$$ flirt with danger and risk their carreer ... i mean maybe its just me but if i was an AFL footballer and i knew the media would scruitenise every slip up i had i would limit my alcohol consumption to 2 beers and make sure i was at home in bed by 1030pm each night i mean with the exception of Harvey most players have a 8-10 year window to earn as much money play as many games and win as many flags as they can surely you would be able to put you party life on hold for that time to secure your future ??

Lots of money + 21 years old + (generally) no brains = exactly what you've mentioned. Some of these guys haven't got the smarts to realise that they're set up for life if they can just apply some self-control.

[bergsone]

Culture seems good ATM,only needs one stuff up though,

[markp]

i cant understand why these guys who are in a dream job getting payed big time $$$ flirt with danger and risk their carreer ... i mean maybe its just me but if i was an AFL footballer and i knew the media would scruitenise every slip up i had i would limit my alcohol consumption to 2 beers and make sure i was at home in bed by 1030pm each night i mean with the exception of Harvey most players have a 8-10 year window to earn as much money play as many games and win as many flags as they can surely you would be able to put you party life on hold for that time to secure your future ??

Lots of money + 21 years old + (generally) no brains = exactly what you've mentioned. Some of these guys haven't got the smarts to realise that they're set up for life if they can just apply some self-control.

Very hard to stay at home and watch a dvd if you knew you could walk into a bar and have girls all over you, and generally be treated like a superstar... especially at that age.

[degruch]

i cant understand why these guys who are in a dream job getting payed big time $$$ flirt with danger and risk their carreer ... i mean maybe its just me but if i was an AFL footballer and i knew the media would scruitenise every slip up i had i would limit my alcohol consumption to 2 beers and make sure i was at home in bed by 1030pm each night i mean with the exception of Harvey most players have a 8-10 year window to earn as much money play as many games and win as many flags as they can surely you would be able to put you party life on hold for that time to secure your future ??

Lots of money + 21 years old + (generally) no brains = exactly what you've mentioned. Some of these guys haven't got the smarts to realise that they're set up for life if they can just apply some self-control.

Very hard to stay at home and watch a dvd if you knew you could walk into a bar and have girls all over you, and generally be treated like a superstar... especially at that age.

I know Mark...gawd knows it was tough for both of us too.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

i cant understand why these guys who are in a dream job getting payed big time $$$ flirt with danger and risk their carreer ... i mean maybe its just me but if i was an AFL footballer and i knew the media would scruitenise every slip up i had i would limit my alcohol consumption to 2 beers and make sure i was at home in bed by 1030pm each night i mean with the exception of Harvey most players have a 8-10 year window to earn as much money play as many games and win as many flags as they can surely you would be able to put you party life on hold for that time to secure your future ??

Lots of money + 21 years old + (generally) no brains = exactly what you've mentioned. Some of these guys haven't got the smarts to realise that they're set up for life if they can just apply some self-control.

Very hard to stay at home and watch a dvd if you knew you could walk into a bar and have girls all over you, and generally be treated like a superstar... especially at that age.

by all means walk into the bar and have the girls all over you but stop at the 3rd drink honestly in society today there are too many people who cant just stop at one or two

[markp]

i cant understand why these guys who are in a dream job getting payed big time $$$ flirt with danger and risk their carreer ... i mean maybe its just me but if i was an AFL footballer and i knew the media would scruitenise every slip up i had i would limit my alcohol consumption to 2 beers and make sure i was at home in bed by 1030pm each night i mean with the exception of Harvey most players have a 8-10 year window to earn as much money play as many games and win as many flags as they can surely you would be able to put you party life on hold for that time to secure your future ??

Lots of money + 21 years old + (generally) no brains = exactly what you've mentioned. Some of these guys haven't got the smarts to realise that they're set up for life if they can just apply some self-control.

Very hard to stay at home and watch a dvd if you knew you could walk into a bar and have girls all over you, and generally be treated like a superstar... especially at that age.

by all means walk into the bar and have the girls all over you but stop at the 3rd drink honestly in society today there are too many people who cant just stop at one or two

Girls or drinks??

[st_Trav_ofWA]

[evertonfc]

I've gotten smashed with a player from just about every AFL team...they're young blokes having a good time - that's not a crime.

But you don't need to break to the law.

[GrumpyOne]

It's about time some senior AFL players dispelled the myth that you have to be three sheets to the wind to enjoy yourself. Grog is not the panacea to what ails you, that still remains after the grog has run out.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

It's about time some senior AFL players dispelled the myth that you have to be three sheets to the wind to enjoy yourself. Grog is not the panacea to what ails you, that still remains after the grog has run out.

well put Grumpy the way alcohol is portrayed in footy is out dated ... the drunken heros of the brownlows the stumbling fools of mad monday ... moderation guys ...

[mightysainters]

we dont want to talk about our culture as we will be in the media very soon... watch this space...

[degruch]

we dont want to talk about our culture as we will be in the media very soon... watch this space...

We always are.

[The Saintsational Man]

Some of the Collingwood supporters are now saying;

"Just wait until someone in your team stuffs up, we'll be straight on your backs"

I love it.....I just love it when they have nowhere to go with arguements on situations like this.....

IT"S GREAT!!!

[tweedaletomanning]

dont go patting us on the back too soon - a scandal is never too far away.

spot on!!

what about fraser, milne, montagna..... Lets not get carried away..

another thing...

if you are on such good money....why wouldn't you take a
T A X I !!!!

[Mr Magic]

i cant understand why these guys who are in a dream job getting payed big time $$$ flirt with danger and risk their carreer ... i mean maybe its just me but if i was an AFL footballer and i knew the media would scruitenise every slip up i had i would limit my alcohol consumption to 2 beers and make sure i was at home in bed by 1030pm each night i mean with the exception of Harvey most players have a 8-10 year window to earn as much money play as many games and win as many flags as they can surely you would be able to put you party life on hold for that time to secure your future ??

Simple answer,
Most of these 'young afl superstars' are just dumb.

They are picked up in the draft as 18 year olds with very little experience or sophistication and are expected by thier Clubs to act maturely.

They are fawned upon, idolized, given anything and everything they could ask for and some things they could never even imagine.

They are paid more money as 21 year olds than their family has probably ever seen in a decade.

They have sycophantic fans telling them they are superstars and because of their lack of experience, maturity and sphistication, they think they are indestructable.

That's why I have less of an issue with the Heath Shaw's of this world who appears to have 'stuffed up' big for the first time.

As for Didak - he is a different matter.
How many times can you keep making the same mistakes. It's not like he hasn't been warned before that the behaviour he has undertaken is not acceptable. I wonder if Heath Shaw would have gotten into trouble if he was just drinking with his brother (without the company of Didak)?

I see Didak as the next Ben Cousins. Maybe if WCE had had the balls to pull him in to line at the age of 25 he wouldn't have turned into what he has. Then agian some people just won't listen to advice.

[marksnsparks]

Let's face it, AFL players have had very little exposure to a real job with real problems that real people have to deal with.

They are a product of the system, they are conditioned to be aggressive, risk taking adrenalin junkies so it's no surprise they can't switch that off.

Reminds me of towns in the UK like Aldershot which have massive army bases near them. Saturday night is a no go zone cause of all the fighting. Soldiers not being able to turn off from being killing machines. Same thing.

[Pilgram]

My culture is growing in the back of my fridge.

i keep mine in the shower.