Hard Facts

[SaintsRepublic]

• Saints have not produced a new good player since Sam Fisher "emerged" in 2005.
  
  
  People waiting for the mysterious Ross Lyon game plan to be stamped on this group are in la la land.
  
  We have 2 stars - Dal & Roo
  
  No players are improving
  
  Several have gone backwards (Gram, Lenny, Gilbert, Fishers x 2, Joey)
  
  Our young group are not as good as some other teams young guys.
  
  We have been stagnant for 5 years to be honest.
  
  Geary, Eddy look good

[i_luv_nick_riewoldt]

oh gosh what a load of crap!!

[Otiman]

yawn.

bring on the next troll.

[brown-coat]

Port are tanking and are playing all kids.

5 wins for the year and have nothing to play for.

[SaintsRepublic]

yawn.

bring on the next troll.

YAWN yourself. hope and fantasy arent a good policy. cos saints fans are living in fantasy-land if they reckon we tracking ok.

Face some hard facts boys and girls.

[Devilhead]

• Several have gone backwards (Gram, Lenny, Gilbert, Fishers x 2, Joey)

Gram - 34 possessions, 7 marks, 2 goals
Monty - 28 possessions, 6 marks, 5 tackles
Lenny - has been great all year
Sammy F - has been solid all year

[Spinner]

• Saints have not produced a new good player since Sam Fisher "emerged" in 2005.
  
  
  People waiting for the mysterious Ross Lyon game plan to be stamped on this group are in la la land.
  
  We have 2 stars - Dal & Roo
  
  No players are improving
  
  Several have gone backwards (Gram, Lenny, Gilbert, Fishers x 2, Joey)
  
  Our young group are not as good as some other teams young guys.
  
  We have been stagnant for 5 years to be honest.
  
  Geary, Eddy look good

Correct.

Lenny has gone backwards only because of injury. And he is a star.

Dont know how anyone can deny everything else.