Clinton Lightning Jones

woooosaints · Tue 18 Sep 2007 2:43pm

maybe we might redraft him in the rookie draft

mad saint guy · Tue 18 Sep 2007 2:43pm

woooosaints wrote:we will delist ferguson and elevate jones hes shown more then ferguson has in 5 years

No way has Jones shown more than Ferguson. Ferg has been a victim of having numerous quality flankers ahead of him and has only came into the side as an emergency key defender. As a 20-year old in 2004 he came in and did a serviceable job as our fill-in CHB for a month or so. Now this doesn't mean that he is or ever will be a gun, but it is a bloody good effort and he showed that he has all the signs of an AFL player. He has been toughing it out in the reserves ever since, but those few games alone put him ahead of Jones.

Jones has shown everyone that he does not possess any basic skills of the game, but is fit and has bright hair. Surely that doesn't warrant a spot on the list.

Ross Young was a similar case and performed far better than Jones. He was drafted by Carlton as a 23 year old rookie, promoted mid-season and showed that he could get plenty of the footy and was a tough tackler (managing 9 tackles in one game). He also managed 3 goals from his 6 games. Young was then delisted by Carlton at the end of the season because he just wasn't good enough to make a genuine impact and was only going to stall the development of the younger midfielders.

woooosaints · Tue 18 Sep 2007 2:56pm

in 1 year jones has nearly played as many games as ferguson you talk about his 2004 spell where was his recall after that??

Dan Warna · Post: # 458929Post **Dan Warna** » Tue 18 Sep 2007 3:00pm

woooosaints wrote:in 1 year jones has nearly played as many games as ferguson you talk about his 2004 spell where was his recall after that??

and all of them he has turned over the ball with 50% of his 10 possessions a game

at the moment the evidence against CJ's senior form is quite damning.

now his magoos form is reported to be decent, perhaps it is a case of stage fright (ie. TIm allen) and I hope with coaching he might be a decent player, but his 2007 form, he was a liaibility in the seniors.

saintsRrising · Sat 01 Mar 2008 1:56pm

Well after 3 NAB games and completely recovered from his collarbone injury Cinton's form in the NAB has been very good.

Indeed if his kicking had been a mite better he could well have racked up some BOGs.

woooosaints · Sat 01 Mar 2008 1:58pm

i proved you all wrong

Spinner · Post: # 525609Post **Spinner** » Sat 01 Mar 2008 2:15pm

woooosaints wrote:i proved you all wrong

On the back of a NAB game in which none of our regular midfielders played an entire match in the midfield.

Long long long way to go.

woooosaints · Tue 22 Jul 2008 7:10pm

hahha told u so suckers

bigred · Post: # 608070Post **bigred** » Tue 22 Jul 2008 7:33pm

stinger wrote:
rogerwa wrote:not a footballers bootlace...never will be

gone
hope so....

lol

OWNED.

Otiman · Post: # 608071Post **Otiman** » Tue 22 Jul 2008 7:33pm

Some red faces in this thread.

In fairness to most, his '07 was quite poor, but to Jones' credit, he worked his arse off over the preseason and put quite a number on here back in their box.

123 · Post: # 608073Post **123** » Tue 22 Jul 2008 7:39pm

Otiman wrote:Some red faces in this thread.

In fairness to most, his '07 was quite poor, but to Jones' credit, he worked his arse off over the preseason and put quite a number on here back in their box.

in fairness? stuff that no one spoke in fairness about cj last year. they who could not see the talent as raw as it may be no less about football than my 8yr old sister

saintsRrising · Wed 23 Jul 2008 12:47am

Otiman wrote:Some red faces in this thread.

In fairness to most, his '07 was quite poor, but to Jones' credit, he worked his arse off over the preseason and put quite a number on here back in their box.

Actually pre-broken collarbone he was quite ok.

midas_touch · Wed 23 Jul 2008 1:25am

This thread was quite an amusing read, considering how much CJ has improved since the time this thread was created.

casey scorp · Wed 23 Jul 2008 1:44am

battye wrote:He's not all that quick.

And with RL at the helm he probably will be a 150 gamer... RL certainly does like him...

Ask Buddy if he's not all that quick.

Teflon · Post: # 608280Post **Teflon** » Wed 23 Jul 2008 2:12am

Some geniuses in this thread....

Hi Baba...

rodgerfox · Post: # 608295Post **rodgerfox** » Wed 23 Jul 2008 9:40am

casey scorp wrote:
battye wrote:He's not all that quick.

And with RL at the helm he probably will be a 150 gamer... RL certainly does like him...
Ask Buddy if he's not all that quick.

Franklin had almost stopped to a walk when Jones tackled him.

It was a great effort to persevere with the chase, but he hardly ran down a full pace Franklin.

BAM! (shhhh) · Wed 23 Jul 2008 10:59am

Otiman wrote:Some red faces in this thread.

In fairness to most, his '07 was quite poor, but to Jones' credit, he worked his arse off over the preseason and put quite a number on here back in their box.

Jones '08 deserves so much credit.

Players very, very rarely improve their fundamentals after their early 20s. He's done it. On occasion it's still not pretty, but his kicking has improved a long way... which also shouldn't detract from noting that he's winning a lot of ball, laying tackles, and never stops running.

150 would be a great achievement for him (he's at 17 games now? 23 by eoy games by end of year means 127 more games) it will take > 5 years if he stays health not counting finals, which would take him to ~30.

Wouldn't bet against him based on his improvement this year.

mordi · Post: # 608362Post **mordi** » Wed 23 Jul 2008 12:54pm

gotta love that unique left-foot kicking style he uses on the run.......but hey , he's getting the job done.

saintsRrising · Wed 23 Jul 2008 1:29pm

I still maintain that CJ's pre-broken collarbone games were not as bad as many make out.

Otiman · Post: # 608380Post **Otiman** » Wed 23 Jul 2008 1:52pm

mordi wrote:gotta love that unique left-foot kicking style he uses on the run.......but hey , he's getting the job done.

It looks like he's trying out for the birdman rally every time he kicks, I love it

spert · Post: # 608384Post **spert** » Wed 23 Jul 2008 1:56pm

His tackling and second efforts are causing positive plays for the team and showing a few others how it's done..as he pretty much was doing when he first started with us pre injury.

mordi · Post: # 608393Post **mordi** » Wed 23 Jul 2008 2:17pm

Otiman wrote: It looks like he's trying out for the birdman rally every time he kicks, I love it

exactly, or those kids at school who had never been taught to kick and would throw the ball at their foot !

aussiejones · Wed 23 Jul 2008 3:12pm

I reckon he is doing fine .....he is in our future

bob__71 · Post: # 608427Post **bob__71** » Wed 23 Jul 2008 3:27pm

Haha thats such a funny read.....So many of the experts on here know sweet FA about football.....let alone what makes a good footballer

Thanks for the bump

westy · Post: # 608480Post **westy** » Wed 23 Jul 2008 4:52pm

I can't the utter crap that some of you people come up with. I imagine the that the the Clinton Jones bashers are also Jason Blake bashers!