Alex Silvagni

Batnoe · Post: # 598578Post **Batnoe** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 7:47pm

What are our chances of picking this lad up?

He plays the position where we lack genuine depth, is he likely to attract attention from other clubs with his good form at Casey?

I want him as a back up Full Back, at 192cm and fairly athletic he can play on a lot of powerful FF's

If we do get him, what draft pick would he still be available at? If he was available at pick 40 would you pick him up or would it be a smokey pick only in the 70's?

Also, is he relation to SOS?

saintbrat · Post: # 598587Post **saintbrat** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 8:08pm

he is a second cousin

see the casey Vs Willi thread
for a video link

Eastern · Post: # 598592Post **Eastern** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 8:17pm

How old is he? Why has he been overlooked thus far? Does he have the tools to make it at AFL level?

These, and more/other questions need to be answered before we can really form an opinion on him !!

Batnoe · Post: # 598597Post **Batnoe** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 8:28pm

he is 20, was overlooked in 06 and he nearly gave up on his dream but he has come back very well so far and has held some other AFL listed players very well...

i like the look of him, at 192cm is a good height for a FB- Max is 191cm.

jill · Post: # 598598Post **jill** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 8:28pm

Great VFL player - NOT AFL!

rogerwa · Post: # 598604Post **rogerwa** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 8:49pm

since when have we taken age,ability,background etc etc into account with our recruiting..some of the crap we have picked up over the yrs hasnt been worth the paperwork

if hes related grab him with a 1st rnd pick..he can join r.clarke & watts when we debate related 1st rnd duds

adobe · Post: # 598608Post **adobe** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 8:59pm

jill wrote:Great VFL player - NOT AFL!

Has great potential with his speed,tackling and spoiling reads the play well and plays with a lot of passion.

plugger66 · Post: # 598611Post **plugger66** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 9:00pm

adobe wrote:
jill wrote:Great VFL player - NOT AFL!
Has great potential with his speed,tackling and spoiling reads the play well and plays with a lot of passion.

No Jill is right. He is a VFL player and shouldnt be considered but he plays for Scorps so lets draft him.

mick13 · Post: # 598613Post **mick13** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 9:03pm

F***, who cares if he turns out to be a dud at AFL, we've wasted that many picks Im sure another one won't matter.

Take him like 4th of 5th round.

plugger66 · Post: # 598619Post **plugger66** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 9:12pm

mick13 wrote:F***, who cares if he turns out to be a dud at AFL, we've wasted that many picks Im sure another one won't matter.

Take him like 4th of 5th round.

Why. Have you seen him play. A mate of mine is a good fullback lets get him. Only for a 4th or 5th rounder who cares.

mick13 · Post: # 598622Post **mick13** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 9:21pm

Sure, whats your mates name?

plugger66 · Post: # 598628Post **plugger66** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 9:31pm

mick13 wrote:Sure, whats your mates name?

Patrick Hernandez. He was born born to be alive.

Otiman · Post: # 598637Post **Otiman** » Fri 04 Jul 2008 9:59pm

Yeah, stop talking him up or other clubs will poach him.

mick13 · Post: # 598748Post **mick13** » Sat 05 Jul 2008 12:27am

plugger66 wrote:
mick13 wrote:Sure, whats your mates name?
Patrick Hernandez. He was born born to be alive.

Good on him, I'll tell Luke Beveridge next training to tell his dad to have a look at the bloke.

Thanks for the heads up.

Solar · Post: # 598754Post **Solar** » Sat 05 Jul 2008 12:32am

one of the best defenders in the VFl, is only 20, is getting better and has been awesome in combo with wall....

been better then some of our rookies, but hell he's a VFL player, jill has spoken....

personally I think that talls and rucks take longer to develop and silvagni would be a beauty to rookie list at the least. But don't be suprised if someone pinches him late in the national draft.

In fact you know who he reminds me of when watching the crows tonight, bassat. Not the most skilled by foot, but reads the play well, spoils and marks very well and is getting better and better.

Develop him along with gilbert as our future backline talls.

vacuous space · Sat 05 Jul 2008 1:04am

Miles was a WAFL player - now he's on the Saints rookie list. SD Thompson and Shane Valenti were VFL listed last year, now they're on AFL lists. Matt Egan, Matt Stokes, Sam Mitchell and Simon Taylor were all VFL listed players before being drafted. I'm not saying Silvagni or Wall are at the level of these guys, but you can't rule a guy out just because he's mature age and playing at a lower level.

Since we're going to have some rookie spots open anyway, I can't see the problem with rewarding Sivagni or Wall with a spot. After 70-80 draft picks 5-10 PSD picks and bunch of rookie picks, there isn't going to be a lot of talent left. At worst, we take a good VFL defender to Sandy and send the message to the VFL guys that if you perform, you could get a shot.

Red · Post: # 598864Post **Red** » Sat 05 Jul 2008 1:30pm

I'm not saying take him but just because he wasn't drafted doesn't mean

he wouldn't make a good honest defender. Recruiters often get it wrong,

look at Clint Jones 18 months on an Afl list has improved him in a lot of

aspects - skills improving, decision making getting better.

I don't think you can write someone off because they missed out in the draft.

Batnoe · Post: # 598873Post **Batnoe** » Sat 05 Jul 2008 1:41pm

Andrew Thomphson- 24 before debut, played over 200 games

i also remember Troy Wilson, although only playing 2 good seasons, i think he was 28 before he was drafted

skeptic · Post: # 598904Post **skeptic** » Sat 05 Jul 2008 2:51pm

i only go by what i've read here but one benefit with Silvagni is that we need a kid that can start playing in the backline... NOW'ish

if u draft a new KPP ur looking at at least 2-3 seasons of devolpment (by playing in the VFL) and that means that Maxy, who is clearly past his best and should be winding down his career by playing on the opposition's #2 forward (shutting them out completely)... freeing Sam Fisher up, still has to be the main man.

esaint66 · Post: # 598932Post **esaint66** » Sat 05 Jul 2008 3:57pm

I say definatly have a look at him, max IMO doesn't have much time left and his game style doesn't really suit that of the game of football nowdays. Gives away to many free kicks IMO

Saintschampions08 · Sat 05 Jul 2008 4:01pm

saint edward wrote:I say definatly have a look at him, max IMO doesn't have much time left and his game style doesn't really suit that of the game of football nowdays. Gives away to many free kicks IMO

Yeah ... blokes who hold the opposition full forward to less then 2 goals almost every week, gathers 12 disposals a week....

And gives away 1 free kick a week, isn't really playing the 'game of football nowdays'

Junior · Post: # 598939Post **Junior** » Sat 05 Jul 2008 4:47pm

Would kill us at AFL level is a shocking kick of the football and would turn the ball over too much.

Like Rix an outstanding VFL level player.

esaint66 · Post: # 598943Post **esaint66** » Sat 05 Jul 2008 5:05pm

Saintschampions08 wrote:
saint edward wrote:I say definatly have a look at him, max IMO doesn't have much time left and his game style doesn't really suit that of the game of football nowdays. Gives away to many free kicks IMO
Yeah ... blokes who hold the opposition full forward to less then 2 goals almost every week, gathers 12 disposals a week....

And gives away 1 free kick a week, isn't really playing the 'game of football nowdays'

Ok if you wish, but i am intitaled to my opinion. He does do his job, but he doesn't look comfortable.

esaint66 · Post: # 598946Post **esaint66** » Sat 05 Jul 2008 5:12pm

saint edward wrote:
Saintschampions08 wrote:
saint edward wrote:I say definatly have a look at him, max IMO doesn't have much time left and his game style doesn't really suit that of the game of football nowdays. Gives away to many free kicks IMO
Yeah ... blokes who hold the opposition full forward to less then 2 goals almost every week, gathers 12 disposals a week....

And gives away 1 free kick a week, isn't really playing the 'game of football nowdays'

Ok if you wish, but i am intitaled to my opinion. He does do his job, but he doesn't look comfortable.

But then again i have been his biggest critic right through his career and he is playing decent football at the moment. I'm still thinking of him a few years ago so i apologise.

midas_touch · Sat 05 Jul 2008 5:25pm

Haven't seen Silvagni play, but a late round pick/rookie pick wouldn't be wasted on him.