Teflon wrote:Some just support themselves.....
Gotta Feel Sorry For Ross
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Now, now...do I have to separate you two?Teflon wrote:Let him post degruch........he mildly amusing...degruch wrote:Eade inherited a gun team. Ross?maverick wrote:Eade had the Swans in a GF in his first year, 1.5 years is enough to know Lyon can't coachTeflon wrote:
BTW the previous coach had 5 YEARS. This guys had 1.5. You work it out...
I mean lets sack the coach and show the world what true rabble we are??
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WTF is that, is that supposed to be a sentence?Teflon wrote:Well give your age youve just given us - how was the weather in 39' ?maverick wrote:Yeah that sort of blind support you offer was last seen back in the 30's in Germany, but hey keeps spinning your BS....Teflon wrote:Gee tks "Mav" for letting me post.....you must hold so much clout over the internet...maverick wrote:Let him post, he makes me laugh, someone's got to defend the indefensible...bergsone wrote:Giveup teflon your making a fool of yourself
I'm sure if he had his way Timmy would have been a 10 year coach with us as well....
What is indefensible is your obvious lack of support for our club - the Tiges could use a good man like you....
Have you started High School yet?
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Not according to jeff...he likes to watch....degruch wrote:Now, now...do I have to separate you two?Teflon wrote:Let him post degruch........he mildly amusing...degruch wrote:Eade inherited a gun team. Ross?maverick wrote:Eade had the Swans in a GF in his first year, 1.5 years is enough to know Lyon can't coachTeflon wrote:
BTW the previous coach had 5 YEARS. This guys had 1.5. You work it out...
I mean lets sack the coach and show the world what true rabble we are??
“Yeah….nah””
Would you like me to list them...players who are in their prime
Lenny Hayes 28
Jason Gram 24
X.Clarke 24
L.Fisher 23
S.Baker 28
L.Montagna 24
N.Riewoldt 25
A.Schnieder 24
L.ball 24
R.Clarke 22
A.Fiora 27
B.Goddard 23
Matty Ferguson 23
Shane Birss 25
J.Kosi 25
S.Dempster 23
S.Fisher 26
N.Dal Santo 24
J.Blake 27
C.Gardner 24
M.Rix 26
M.Maguire 24
A.McQualter 22
J.Gwilt 22
C.Jones 23
J.Attard 22
S.Milne 28
That is 28 on our list between the ages of 22 and 28........half of trhose (14) are automatic selections when fit....this suggests our core is in it's prime....you would add 4 vets to your bestt 22 (Max, Harvs, King, Gardy), and a couple of developing players (Gilbo, Armo, Geary)
then there is the Kids
Steven 18
Conners 18
McEvoy 18
Allen 19
Geary 19
Armitage 20
Howard 21
Eddy 20
Gilbo 21
List is NOT that old....really...
Lenny Hayes 28
Jason Gram 24
X.Clarke 24
L.Fisher 23
S.Baker 28
L.Montagna 24
N.Riewoldt 25
A.Schnieder 24
L.ball 24
R.Clarke 22
A.Fiora 27
B.Goddard 23
Matty Ferguson 23
Shane Birss 25
J.Kosi 25
S.Dempster 23
S.Fisher 26
N.Dal Santo 24
J.Blake 27
C.Gardner 24
M.Rix 26
M.Maguire 24
A.McQualter 22
J.Gwilt 22
C.Jones 23
J.Attard 22
S.Milne 28
That is 28 on our list between the ages of 22 and 28........half of trhose (14) are automatic selections when fit....this suggests our core is in it's prime....you would add 4 vets to your bestt 22 (Max, Harvs, King, Gardy), and a couple of developing players (Gilbo, Armo, Geary)
then there is the Kids
Steven 18
Conners 18
McEvoy 18
Allen 19
Geary 19
Armitage 20
Howard 21
Eddy 20
Gilbo 21
List is NOT that old....really...
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Re: Gotta Feel Sorry For Ross
Agreed.LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Ross inherited a team on the slide with no quality kids coming thru and a small group of core elite players and nothing else to work with.
This is not a anti Gt thread just a fact.
Ross got us when we was on the decline and now he has to cop our wrath.
"Now the ball is loose, it gives St. Kilda a rough chance. Black. Good handpass. Voss. Schwarze now, the defender, can run and from a long way".....
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No, no I need some amusement after watching the footy this yeardegruch wrote:Now, now...do I have to separate you two?Teflon wrote:Let him post degruch........he mildly amusing...degruch wrote:Eade inherited a gun team. Ross?maverick wrote:Eade had the Swans in a GF in his first year, 1.5 years is enough to know Lyon can't coachTeflon wrote:
BTW the previous coach had 5 YEARS. This guys had 1.5. You work it out...
I mean lets sack the coach and show the world what true rabble we are??
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Gone from a drama queen to a MORON dont let the age fool you sonTeflon wrote:Ive met plenty of 50 yr old morons. Id never be ageist in that regard....bergsone wrote:After 52 years of being a saint really dont reckon im a drama queen.definately not a foolTeflon wrote:Mate its an internet forum.....EVERYONE makes a fool of himself on here - especially the weak drama queens after a predictable loss.bergsone wrote:Giveup teflon your making a fool of yourself
The only people making fools on themselves on an internet forums are clowns who take it so seriously to think you can...
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Geezus scraping the barrel now.maverick wrote:WTF is that, is that supposed to be a sentence?Teflon wrote:Well give your age youve just given us - how was the weather in 39' ?maverick wrote:Yeah that sort of blind support you offer was last seen back in the 30's in Germany, but hey keeps spinning your BS....Teflon wrote:Gee tks "Mav" for letting me post.....you must hold so much clout over the internet...maverick wrote:Let him post, he makes me laugh, someone's got to defend the indefensible...bergsone wrote:Giveup teflon your making a fool of yourself
I'm sure if he had his way Timmy would have been a 10 year coach with us as well....
What is indefensible is your obvious lack of support for our club - the Tiges could use a good man like you....
Have you started High School yet?
Im 12 if you must know and in year 7...and find mentally I have enough to account for you...
“Yeah….nah””
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I'll try not to dad. Tks for the "tip"bergsone wrote:Gone from a drama queen to a MORON dont let the age fool you sonTeflon wrote:Ive met plenty of 50 yr old morons. Id never be ageist in that regard....bergsone wrote:After 52 years of being a saint really dont reckon im a drama queen.definately not a foolTeflon wrote:Mate its an internet forum.....EVERYONE makes a fool of himself on here - especially the weak drama queens after a predictable loss.bergsone wrote:Giveup teflon your making a fool of yourself
The only people making fools on themselves on an internet forums are clowns who take it so seriously to think you can...
“Yeah….nah””
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Yeah you're all over me, pretty quick tooTeflon wrote:Geezus scraping the barrel now.maverick wrote:WTF is that, is that supposed to be a sentence?Teflon wrote:Well give your age youve just given us - how was the weather in 39' ?maverick wrote:Yeah that sort of blind support you offer was last seen back in the 30's in Germany, but hey keeps spinning your BS....Teflon wrote:Gee tks "Mav" for letting me post.....you must hold so much clout over the internet...maverick wrote:Let him post, he makes me laugh, someone's got to defend the indefensible...bergsone wrote:Giveup teflon your making a fool of yourself
I'm sure if he had his way Timmy would have been a 10 year coach with us as well....
What is indefensible is your obvious lack of support for our club - the Tiges could use a good man like you....
Have you started High School yet?
Im 12 if you must know and in year 7...and find mentally I have enough to account for you...
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List age doesnt worry me at all.BigMart wrote:Would you like me to list them...players who are in their prime
Lenny Hayes 28
Jason Gram 24
X.Clarke 24
L.Fisher 23
S.Baker 28
L.Montagna 24
N.Riewoldt 25
A.Schnieder 24
L.ball 24
R.Clarke 22
A.Fiora 27
B.Goddard 23
Matty Ferguson 23
Shane Birss 25
J.Kosi 25
S.Dempster 23
S.Fisher 26
N.Dal Santo 24
J.Blake 27
C.Gardner 24
M.Rix 26
M.Maguire 24
A.McQualter 22
J.Gwilt 22
C.Jones 23
J.Attard 22
S.Milne 28
That is 28 on our list between the ages of 22 and 28........half of trhose (14) are automatic selections when fit....this suggests our core is in it's prime....you would add 4 vets to your bestt 22 (Max, Harvs, King, Gardy), and a couple of developing players (Gilbo, Armo, Geary)
then there is the Kids
Steven 18
Conners 18
McEvoy 18
Allen 19
Geary 19
Armitage 20
Howard 21
Eddy 20
Gilbo 21
List is NOT that old....really...
What your list does is againsupport the "overrate st kilda" theory
Who would suggest X, Kosi, Ball (last 3 yrs), Raph (you left him off),
your using age as your "prime" criteria and left of Fiora?......so age is only "prime" for some?
That aside you telling me over the last 3 yrs:
Kosi, Ball, X, Maguire and Baker have bee in "prime condition" to become elite players?
List age tells you just that and notmuch more.
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MR dad to you sonTeflon wrote:I'll try not to dad. Tks for the "tip"bergsone wrote:Gone from a drama queen to a MORON dont let the age fool you sonTeflon wrote:Ive met plenty of 50 yr old morons. Id never be ageist in that regard....bergsone wrote:After 52 years of being a saint really dont reckon im a drama queen.definately not a foolTeflon wrote:Mate its an internet forum.....EVERYONE makes a fool of himself on here - especially the weak drama queens after a predictable loss.bergsone wrote:Giveup teflon your making a fool of yourself
The only people making fools on themselves on an internet forums are clowns who take it so seriously to think you can...
In terms of the age of our list we are not necessarily that older list, yet definately not a young list. We should have a lot of our players in their prime but too many of our players seemed to peak at around 21-22 through 2004-2006. Now, these players seem to be past their peak yet our players who are approaching 21-22 are a long way off being in their prime. Theoretically, we should have the core of our group in their peak but it just isn't the case.
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whats that old saying..."men are not boys..."..hmmm...bergsone wrote:MR dad to you sonTeflon wrote:I'll try not to dad. Tks for the "tip"bergsone wrote:Gone from a drama queen to a MORON dont let the age fool you sonTeflon wrote:Ive met plenty of 50 yr old morons. Id never be ageist in that regard....bergsone wrote:After 52 years of being a saint really dont reckon im a drama queen.definately not a foolTeflon wrote:Mate its an internet forum.....EVERYONE makes a fool of himself on here - especially the weak drama queens after a predictable loss.bergsone wrote:Giveup teflon your making a fool of yourself
The only people making fools on themselves on an internet forums are clowns who take it so seriously to think you can...
“Yeah….nah””
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The bloody players peaked when the previous coach was there.nicko016 wrote:In terms of the age of our list we are not necessarily that older list, yet definately not a young list. We should have a lot of our players in their prime but too many of our players seemed to peak at around 21-22 through 2004-2006. Now, these players seem to be past their peak yet our players who are approaching 21-22 are a long way off being in their prime. Theoretically, we should have the core of our group in their peak but it just isn't the case.
Unlucky Ross.
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hahahahahahaha.matrixcutter wrote:yup apparently we are now at the perseverance stage in the level of confidence chart
I'll bet Ross has all sorts of pie charts and line graphs to explain how we lost last night.
Greg will take them home and use them as "pleasure aids".
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It had a hard tag on it too.
I know how Dal feels.
It had a hard tag on it too.
I know how Dal feels.
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5 prelims in 7 years. 40 wins from 49 games.
2009 and 2010 were 2 of the 5 best years ever by the St.Kilda FC.
Thanks for all your efforts Saints.
2009 and 2010 were 2 of the 5 best years ever by the St.Kilda FC.
Thanks for all your efforts Saints.
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I tell you its been interesting reading what people are saying, and i will say some have been spot on and some well a bit off the mark. But as the saying go's everyone is entitled to their opinon. Unfortunatley the only way things can change is when the coaching staff pull their thumbs out of their ass, and come up with a new game plan, you know like ATTACKING style of footy in which the saints did very well from 2004 to 2006. Maybe it will take time, probaly bloody will, but you dont know the saints might just shock us and win the next couple and get into the eight, or loose and finnish exactley where they they are. One thing is for sure i will always stand by the saints, always renew my membership, and see them when i can. Seeing as i live in adelaide.
PS even though i support the saints i didnt come into this season with high expectations, that way i'm not that dissopointed when we loose. Sorry about the spelling getting over that god awful gastro.
PS even though i support the saints i didnt come into this season with high expectations, that way i'm not that dissopointed when we loose. Sorry about the spelling getting over that god awful gastro.
Someone has to say this.
Teflon, reverse your signature.
Ross Lyon should never be above Robert Harvey in anything.
Teflon, reverse your signature.
Ross Lyon should never be above Robert Harvey in anything.
A true king doesn't glass his girlfriend.
A true king doesn't smear his blood on an opponent when he cannot break a tag.
A true king does not label umpires disgraceful.
A true king is Robert Harvey.
A true king doesn't smear his blood on an opponent when he cannot break a tag.
A true king does not label umpires disgraceful.
A true king is Robert Harvey.