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Changes for next week against the swans

Post: # 582807Post saint patrick »

Time to bite the bullet and swing the machete :x

In:Allen,Mcenvoy, Stevens,Baker,Gilbert,Harvey,King

Out:Gwilt,L.Fisher,Blake,Dempster,Gram,Jones,Milne


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saint patrick wrote:Time to bite the bullet and swing the machete :x

In:Allen,Mcenvoy, Stevens,Baker,Gilbert,Harvey,King

Out:Gwilt,L.Fisher,Blake,Dempster,Gram,Jones,Milne
Gram probably played his best game and Jone was one of the few that had a go.


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Post: # 582809Post True Blue Sainter »

Extremely stiff on Jones. Was one of our better players up in Brissy, looked OK against the Dees, and I thought today he played his best game for the club.

Also disagree on Gram - he has started to find some sort of form again. He's an important player. No point dropping him now after he's found the ball 50 odd times in his last 2 matches.


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Behind Play wrote:
saint patrick wrote:Time to bite the bullet and swing the machete :x

In:Allen,Mcenvoy, Stevens,Baker,Gilbert,Harvey,King

Out:Gwilt,L.Fisher,Blake,Dempster,Gram,Jones,Milne
Gram probably played his best game and Jone was one of the few that had a go.
Tell me whether you agree with the in's...and nominate other outs if Gram and Jones are to be retained...on consideration may,be Schneider deserves the chop more :x
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Post: # 582813Post saintbrat »

ruomour is Baker still didn't play full game and very sore


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Post: # 582815Post Dal_Santos_Gal »

Its easy, bring in the casey team, we then might have half a fighting chance.

Sorry St Pat.... I am just not feeling all that great.
When you see Carlton heading straight past us in the other direction is just rubbing salt into a alreadylarge gapping wound.
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Post: # 582816Post True Blue Sainter »

saint patrick wrote:
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saint patrick wrote:Time to bite the bullet and swing the machete :x

In:Allen,Mcenvoy, Stevens,Baker,Gilbert,Harvey,King

Out:Gwilt,L.Fisher,Blake,Dempster,Gram,Jones,Milne
Gram probably played his best game and Jone was one of the few that had a go.
Tell me whether you agree with the in's...and nominate other outs if Gram and Jones are to be retained.
Think Gilbo will need a week or two at Casey. Bakes needs another week also. McQualter deserves a crack - he's been BOG fairly consistently in the ressies.


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Post: # 582821Post saint patrick »

Dal_Santos_Gal wrote:Its easy, bring in the casey team, we then might have half a fighting chance.

Sorry St Pat.... I am just not feeling all that great.
When you see Carlton heading straight past us in the other direction is just rubbing salt into a alreadylarge gapping wound.
My Husband is on cloud flipping 9 about the blues win, its killing me...
Yeh I hear ya DSG...and putting up with a blue bagger would definately be salt on the wound :shock: Another tough weekend as a saint huh...hope we feel better when the sun comes up tommorrow :roll:


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saint patrick wrote:[
Yeh I hear ya DSG...and putting up with a blue bagger would definately be salt on the wound :shock: Another tough weekend as a saint huh...hope we feel better when the sun comes up tommorrow :roll:
actully I'd be MUCH happier if it was pelting down rain- water storage is down to 7.3 %


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saintbrat wrote:
saint patrick wrote:[
Yeh I hear ya DSG...and putting up with a blue bagger would definately be salt on the wound :shock: Another tough weekend as a saint huh...hope we feel better when the sun comes up tommorrow :roll:
actully I'd be MUCH happier if it was pelting down rain- water storage is down to 7.3 %
Ok brat..Lets settle on a sun shower :wink:


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saint patrick wrote:Time to bite the bullet and swing the machete :x

In:Allen,Mcenvoy, Stevens,Baker,Gilbert,Harvey,King

Out:Gwilt,L.Fisher,Blake,Dempster,Gram,Jones,Milne
Gram and Jones were fairly decent. Blake put in a decent effort.
Milne is also leading our goal kicking for this season, we do need him.

As for your ins;
Allen - kicked 2 today in the ressies - needs to do consistently well before getting into the team, has been in a rough patch of late so i've heard here on the forum.

McEvoy - Could well debut next week but, I didn't see him in the goal kicking list or the bests in the match report.

Stevens - This guy is still in school, he may even be doing mid-year exams. He's shown potential but the club seems to be taking a "softly softly" approach with him so far.

Baker - from reports seems to be restricted by his injury, needs more time.

Gilbert - needs games in the ressies before coming back, get some confidence up.

Harvey & King - Lets see how they pull up from their niggles.

As someone mentioned earlier, McQualter is demanding a spot and can't be ignored for much longer.

FWIW these are the ins i thing might happen next week, assuming that Harves and King miss another; McQualter, C. Gardiner, McEvoy (unlikely)


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saint patrick wrote:Time to bite the bullet and swing the machete :x

In:Allen,Mcenvoy, Stevens,Baker,Gilbert,Harvey,King

Out:Gwilt,L.Fisher,Blake,Dempster,Gram,Jones,Milne
Agree with Gram....His disposal count is very misleading.

He probably played one of the most selfish games I have ever seen. Absolutely no sense of team in terms of talk, shepherding, tackling and general team contributions.

He played for himself today. Let him do it at Casey for a week.

L Fisher, Jones, Blake, Dempster.....And people wonder why we lost....Half the problem is at the selection table......

Tell me: For what reason or role would you select Blake for todays clash? Ended up playing forward because there was no where else for him to go.....

Also, Snieder (*whatever) would have to be one of the biggest front runners in the AFL. Useless midfielder, good in a good team.

Obviously I am very upset with todays game....the worst display of team work ever! No shepherding (they were constantly watching and running with players instead of protecting the ball carrier), No tackling, No protecting teammates, No talk.....Selfish selfish selfish.

Until they go out there as one, willing to work and bleed together....they wont do very much.
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Post: # 582909Post Raven »

BTW, I'm not sure if this has ever been mentioned on this forum before, but it's Steven, not Stevens. 8-)


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saint patrick wrote:Time to bite the bullet and swing the machete :x

In:Allen,Mcenvoy, Stevens,Baker,Gilbert,Harvey,King

Out:Gwilt,L.Fisher,Blake,Dempster,Gram,Jones,Milne
Agree with some of these except Dempster, Jones and Blake...

Wasn't Dempster the player on Cooney and kept him quiet???

IMO Dempster played a good game


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Post: # 582940Post Winmarvellous »

Tell Gram he can come back once he's laid 20 tackles at Casey. Let him get the chance to know what it feels like.


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Post: # 582941Post Enrico_Misso »

Well Gwilt certainly proved something today.

He can't get it.
And when he does he turns it over.

I suspect that will be his last AFL game - ever.


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Post: # 582976Post Otiman »

In: X, Mini, King

Out: Fish, Armo, Gwilt


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Post: # 582980Post Spinner »

Otiman wrote:In: X, Mini, King

Out: Fish, Armo, Gwilt
Mini in for sure.....

Currently Schneider, Armitage and others who are playing through the midfield cant seem to find the ball....Mini hopefully shows some stuff.


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Post: # 582984Post Otiman »

Mini was playing better than Birss in the VFL. Another BOG this week for Casey should see him a certain selection.

Stick with Ferguson until we can get delivery into the forward line right.

If Riewoldt and Koschitzke, two of the best power forwards in the league can't get it, Ferguson doesn't have much hope. His ground level work is better than anyone else on our list not yet in the 22.

Miles could even get a gig after playing a great first up game back from injury (3 goals playing in defence). Should get Eljay's LTI spot.


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Post: # 582993Post fonz_#15 »

what about harvs oti?


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Post: # 583041Post Otiman »

I can't think of whom we can drop for Harvs. Schneider perhaps, Sydney will have his measure.


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Post: # 583044Post lennyandkarl »

Why would we bring Harvey in? I know he's played a lot of games for our club. BUt seriously, we're not going to win the flag, what is he achieving by getting embarrased by our insipid performances. Let him retire a champ - his last finals series won him a GF remember. It's on a DVD - I've got it at home.


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In:Allen, McEvoy, Stevens, Baker, Gilbert, Harvey, King

Out:Gwilt, L.Fisher, Blake, Dempster, Gram, Jones, Milne

I'm glad agreement is slowly forming that the awesome threesome of L Fisher, Blake and Dempster are not f****** good enough to play AFL football, and I put Clinton Jones there too. I'd drop Ferguson also - he has shown over the years that no matter how hard he tries he is NOT good enough - replace with X if he's ready.
So you go with Allen at FF... and Kozi CHB to get some sort of... touch

and let's forget about S King. Bring in McEvoy as ruck two and get some experience into his body.


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Re: Changes for next week against the swans

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saint patrick wrote:Time to bite the bullet and swing the machete :x

In:Allen,Mcenvoy, Stevens,Baker,Gilbert,Harvey,King

Out:Gwilt,L.Fisher,Blake,Dempster,Gram,Jones,Milne
Tell me those ins are a joke. Firstly Gilbert will start in the seconds if he plays. Allen again didnt do anything yesterday and neither did Steven in a lower comp but because we didnt see them do nothing just bring them in anyway. Bakes is still probably not fit enough and finally it has to be Ling or McEvoy as we cannot have 3 slow ruckman in an already slow side.

Now the outs. You didnt go to the footy yesterday I hope otherwise you were in a bar without a TV. I am no CJ fan but was in the best 6 yesterday and Gram in the best 3. Dempster was also good yesterday and Milne is our leading goalkicker by a margin.

So looking at your ins and outs I would say not even close.


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Post: # 583091Post saint66au »

In: Harvey, Mini, King/McEvoy (depending on fitness)

Out: L Fisher, Gwilt, Blake

Dempster did a good job on Cooney and Ferg did no worse than the rest of our forward line (and was played in defence for part of the game anyway)

CJ, Armo and Geary must be persisted with.

If King doesnt come up and Rix plays I will scream. He's livng breathing proof of the chasm of difference between AFL and VFL footy.

Oh..if X comes up he's in for Schneider.


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