Where are all the Lyon supporters now ?

[degruch]

So we support Lyon because he's not GT or because GT was worse?

Some logic there.

We are currently the worst coached side in the league.

We are also the worst prepared team in the league.

Despite 2 preseasons, 2 drafts & 31 games in charge, it's GT's fault we played like we did today?

FFS, that's the sort of spin I expect from political parties, not supporters of a football team.

So...what's the solution. I wouldn't have thought any supporter in their right mind would want a rudderless club less than half-way through a season, sitting on the verge of the eight, no matter how cruddy their performance.

[Saints43]

Ross Lyon is to smart to be coaching our list we play dumb football and it's the players fault not the coach's.

Poor Ross has very little to work with atm.


MMM i wonder why he has so little to work with?

Our list has been going backwards since 2004 and now poor Ross is getting it in the neck.

100 PERCENT ROSS LYON 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then why did he take the f'n job?

Just because Walls offered it to him?

If the players are that crap then he should have told the previous board we need to rebuild. Does our drating/trading suggest he was rebuilding?

Can't he judge talent?

[JeffDunne]

So...what's the solution. I wouldn't have thought any supporter in their right mind would want a rudderless club less than half-way through a season, sitting on the verge of the eight, no matter how cruddy their performance.

Unfortunately we are stuck with him until at least seasons end.

[degruch]

So...what's the solution. I wouldn't have thought any supporter in their right mind would want a rudderless club less than half-way through a season, sitting on the verge of the eight, no matter how cruddy their performance.

Unfortunately we are stuck with him until at least seasons end.

That we are...chin up.

[Saints43]

Refreshing to hear A Thompson say on radio today how much he respected Lyon after playing under him and that he WILL get his chance to mould this side.

Andrew Thompson stated TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

TWICE

"respected him as a person"

Not as a coach. Not as a tactician. Not as a leader.

as a person.

[Teflon]

The crap I and many others had to listen to from you over analysing naval gazing drop kicks about our 'tactical' messiah from Sydney being the icing on an otherwise well baked cake makes me sick.

Im here Kenny - only gutless squibs like your or Jeffery and co jump off and call for the coach to be sacked less than 2 yrs in.

Refreshing to hear A Thompson say on radio today how much he respected Lyon after playing under him and that he WILL get his chance to mould this side.

Turn the heat up on soft, underperforming players and lets at least identify and cut the loafers from this list.

Teflon, name the them, the ones you think they are.

Ill make it easy for you...

My only players exempt from some heat would be Lenny, Harvey Max, S Fisher.

Id delist the following:

Fiora
Gwilt
Rix
Mqualter
Raph

For a start......id trade some names also but thats for another day..

[saintsRrising]

Does our drating/trading suggest he was rebuilding?

Don't forget that with last years selections that:

*McEvoy as a ruckmen was a pick for the future...not this year

*That Steven and Eljay were both lower age picks...so again were never players for this year.

Realistically all three picks are for not this year, or even next...but to deliver value from 2010 on.

With this lot being long term picks...one can understand why he also did the other trades....though realistically this was one pick...

[saintsRrising]

I would not cut them from the list....but Dal and Joey only landed one tackle between them.

[Teflon]

I would not cut them from the list....but Dal and Joey only landed on tackle between them.

That is a disgrace.

[Saints43]

Does our drating/trading suggest he was rebuilding?

Don't forget that with last years selections that:

*McEvoy as a ruckmen was a pick for the future...not this year

*That Steven and Eljay were both lower age picks...so again were never players for this year.

Realistically all three picks are for not this year, or even next...but to deliver value from 2010 on.

With this lot being long term picks...one can understand why he also did the other trades....though realistically this was one pick...

I wasn't writing specifically about drafting.

If you want to address a post - address the WHOLE post.

It's not Trevor Grant day every day...

Ross Lyon is to smart to be coaching our list we play dumb football and it's the players fault not the coach's.

Poor Ross has very little to work with atm.


MMM i wonder why he has so little to work with?

Our list has been going backwards since 2004 and now poor Ross is getting it in the neck.

100 PERCENT ROSS LYON 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then why did he take the f'n job?

Just because Walls offered it to him?

If the players are that crap then he should have told the previous board we need to rebuild. Does our drating/trading suggest he was rebuilding?

Can't he judge talent?

[degruch]

I would not cut them from the list....but Dal and Joey only landed one tackle between them.

That makes me grind my teeth. And this is RL's fault? It's these guys who should be getting a canning on this forum...I don't care how 'depressed' they get...they can go sit in the car and have a good hard think about why we think they're as hard as a bunch of netballers.

RL's right to have pointed this problem out publically, so these guys know they're on notice, not only within the club, but to their entire supporter base. It's how RL deals with it I'll be very interested to see.

[JeffDunne]

If players are instructed to run to space rather than attack the player with the pill . . . then yes it is the coaches fault.

[saintsRrising]

Saints 43 I was not having a go.

However you asked a question...so I gave an answer.

[degruch]

If players are instructed to run to space rather than attack the player with the pill . . . then yes it is the coaches fault.

Given his recent comments, and those today, I'd say it's not his fault then.

[Teflon]

Refreshing to hear A Thompson say on radio today how much he respected Lyon after playing under him and that he WILL get his chance to mould this side.

Andrew Thompson stated TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

TWICE

"respected him as a person"

Not as a coach. Not as a tactician. Not as a leader.

as a person.

you left the bit off where he also said he has to be given his chance??????

or is it easier just to selectively quote?

[Saints43]

Refreshing to hear A Thompson say on radio today how much he respected Lyon after playing under him and that he WILL get his chance to mould this side.

Andrew Thompson stated TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

TWICE

"respected him as a person"

Not as a coach. Not as a tactician. Not as a leader.

as a person.

you left the bit off where he also said he has to be given his chance??????

or is it easier just to selectively quote?

No.

You said that Andrew Thompson said "how much he respected Lyon after playing under him"

That's quite different to him saying TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

We both agree that he said that the coach would be given his chance.

[JeffDunne]

If players are instructed to run to space rather than attack the player with the pill . . . then yes it is the coaches fault.

Given his recent comments, and those today, I'd say it's not his fault then.

What commente were they?

Do you mean his "don't blame me the players are soft" comment?

[Teflon]

Refreshing to hear A Thompson say on radio today how much he respected Lyon after playing under him and that he WILL get his chance to mould this side.

Andrew Thompson stated TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

TWICE

"respected him as a person"

Not as a coach. Not as a tactician. Not as a leader.

as a person.

you left the bit off where he also said he has to be given his chance??????

or is it easier just to selectively quote?

No.

You said that Andrew Thompson said "how much he respected Lyon after playing under him"

That's quite different to him saying TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

We both agree that he said that the coach would be given his chance.

Oh f@rk me.

he respects the guy - are trying to INTIMATE that he thinks hes a cr@p coach? cause he didnt say that and I wont support that.

Geezus some have no nerve in this joint

Why dont you use some of that energy and point the finger at some soft c@ck players who take the cash and cant lay a friggin tackle FFS!

[Saints43]

Refreshing to hear A Thompson say on radio today how much he respected Lyon after playing under him and that he WILL get his chance to mould this side.

Andrew Thompson stated TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

TWICE

"respected him as a person"

Not as a coach. Not as a tactician. Not as a leader.

as a person.

you left the bit off where he also said he has to be given his chance??????

or is it easier just to selectively quote?

No.

You said that Andrew Thompson said "how much he respected Lyon after playing under him"

That's quite different to him saying TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

We both agree that he said that the coach would be given his chance.

Oh f@rk me.

he respects the guy - are trying to INTIMATE that he thinks hes a cr@p coach? cause he didnt say that and I wont support that.

Geezus some have no nerve in this joint

Why dont you use some of that energy and point the finger at some soft c@ck players who take the cash and cant lay a friggin tackle FFS!

He respects him "as a person"

Why would he TWICE specifically add "as a person' when people were ringing SEN complaining about his coaching before the game?

You know what? This is a f'all issue.

Here we go:

I reckon Ross Lyon is a useless coach.

Why do you believe he isn't?

Here's my openeing argument:

We are below Carlton.

I reckon our list management from 2004 onwards might just be better than theirs.

[degruch]

If players are instructed to run to space rather than attack the player with the pill . . . then yes it is the coaches fault.

Given his recent comments, and those today, I'd say it's not his fault then.

What commente were they?

Do you mean his "don't blame me the players are soft" comment?

His comments in regard to increasing forwardline pressure, hard ball gets, too many passengers, blah, blah, blah...it's been going on for weeks now, so I'd imagine the game plan to a free running side line Brisbane wouldn't have been to leave them unaccounted. The fact that that happened, it was a nice sunny day and a few of the boys needed a tan.

They're mentally soft and it's tough for the coach to turn that around mid-season, especially with our record in Brissy. I'm looking forward to the culling of the weak and a home match against a competitive Demons.

[maverick]

Refreshing to hear A Thompson say on radio today how much he respected Lyon after playing under him and that he WILL get his chance to mould this side.

Andrew Thompson stated TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

TWICE

"respected him as a person"

Not as a coach. Not as a tactician. Not as a leader.

as a person.

you left the bit off where he also said he has to be given his chance??????

or is it easier just to selectively quote?

No.

You said that Andrew Thompson said "how much he respected Lyon after playing under him"

That's quite different to him saying TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

We both agree that he said that the coach would be given his chance.

Oh f@rk me.

he respects the guy - are trying to INTIMATE that he thinks hes a cr@p coach? cause he didnt say that and I wont support that.

Geezus some have no nerve in this joint

Why dont you use some of that energy and point the finger at some soft c@ck players who take the cash and cant lay a friggin tackle FFS!

Here's a couple I will point a finger at.

Dempster - absolute spud, who an't kick to position, beat his man one on one, lay a tackle or even hit a team mate with a handball

Schneider - disinterested, one sided, slow minded, overrated, can't tackle and massive downhill skier

Are they part of the Lyon stamp on his list?

[JeffDunne]

If Ross told us the world was flat would we believe him too?

[Teflon]

Refreshing to hear A Thompson say on radio today how much he respected Lyon after playing under him and that he WILL get his chance to mould this side.

Andrew Thompson stated TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

TWICE

"respected him as a person"

Not as a coach. Not as a tactician. Not as a leader.

as a person.

you left the bit off where he also said he has to be given his chance??????

or is it easier just to selectively quote?

No.

You said that Andrew Thompson said "how much he respected Lyon after playing under him"

That's quite different to him saying TWICE that he "played under Ross Lyon and respected him as a person."

We both agree that he said that the coach would be given his chance.

Oh f@rk me.

he respects the guy - are trying to INTIMATE that he thinks hes a cr@p coach? cause he didnt say that and I wont support that.

Geezus some have no nerve in this joint

Why dont you use some of that energy and point the finger at some soft c@ck players who take the cash and cant lay a friggin tackle FFS!

He respects him "as a person"

Why would he TWICE specifically add "as a person' when people were ringing SEN complaining about his coaching before the game?

You know what? This is a f'all issue.

Here we go:

I reckon Ross Lyon is a useless coach.

Why do you believe he isn't?

Thats your problem - youd sack a coach less than 2 years in and let EVERY soft player off the hook.

F@rk me will we ever hold them accountable?

[JeffDunne]

The only person letting players off the hook is our coach.

But hey, I bet he's popular with the players.

[n1ck]

Players are to blame, no doubt about that.

Coach has to take alot of the brunt of the blame though. Its obviousl his 'message' isnt getting through to the players. He has to cop it for that.