YOUR OVERRATED AFL PLAYER CHOICES

Winmar7Fan · Post: # 564214Post **Winmar7Fan** » Sun 11 May 2008 1:07am

Iâ€™m sure we all have players we believe are overrated to their reputations they have been given by commentators , journos etc not saying they arenâ€™t good players but maybe not to the standard theyâ€™ve been built up to. Or you may think their a complete dud. Would be interesting to see your choices and WHY. Iâ€™ll start with my first 3 off the top of my head

Andrew Mcleod - Has the ability to do exciting things and has been a good player over the years but I believe heâ€™s been very patchy and inconsistent and not to the superstar pedestal heâ€™s been put on

Matthew Lloyd â€“ Sorry but this guy irritates me he was going to be the next Dunstall , Lockett powerhouse full forward and Iâ€™m still trying to work out the thing with the grass to calculate the wind drift of a 3 pound football and he still misses most of the time.

Anthony Rocca - The only player I know who can average around 3 marks and half a dozen kicks per game but can bluff everyone and redeem himself to superstar status with one or two 60 metre bomb goals. The experts always say before the game that hes the most important player and "IF" he plays to his potential . Then I hear about all the one percenters he does to cover his arse but im sorry I can't see them all. I believe people have been waiting for him to become something thatâ€™s never going to happen.

I know we wont all agree its just our own opinions would be curious to hear others.

Saints Premiers 2008 · Sun 11 May 2008 1:21am

llyod, james kelly, leon davis, josh fraser

Armoooo · Post: # 564224Post **Armoooo** » Sun 11 May 2008 1:51am

I'm amazed you have McLeod up there, I actually have him as underrated, I believe he is not far behind the likes of Hird, Riccutio etc.

Solar · Post: # 564231Post **Solar** » Sun 11 May 2008 2:30am

agreed armoo, mccloud has been a champion. In fact he and goodwin are both underated.

I think mooney is overated. I actually think buddy is a little overated as well. He is currently being helped by getting lots of good ball from his midfielders. Very much a downhill skier.

Armoooo · Post: # 564236Post **Armoooo** » Sun 11 May 2008 3:47am

Solar wrote:agreed armoo, mccloud has been a champion. In fact he and goodwin are both underated.

I think mooney is overated. I actually think buddy is a little overated as well. He is currently being helped by getting lots of good ball from his midfielders. Very much a downhill skier.

Def agree on Goodwin, star of the game, was robbed of the '06 brownlow IMO...

ausfatcat · Post: # 564240Post **ausfatcat** » Sun 11 May 2008 7:58am

Well and truely Mooney, he is slightly above a average player ability.

After last night Waite I still can't understad how he got a big V guernsey he is not even close to being the best Vic defender on Carlton's list let alone among the best in the state and he proved it last night even the commentators were saying he was struggling.

And just about every player to play for Collingwood seems overated.

plugger66 · Post: # 564250Post **plugger66** » Sun 11 May 2008 10:00am

For the Saints Kosi is very overated. Hasnt really done anything since his first year. I know he has had injuries but not in the last 2 years and hasnt done anything of note since. Time to step up to the plate.

mcadam05 · Post: # 564257Post **mcadam05** » Sun 11 May 2008 11:15am

Garry Hocking!

bobmurray · Post: # 564258Post **bobmurray** » Sun 11 May 2008 11:16am

plugger66 wrote:For the Saints Kosi is very overated. Hasnt really done anything since his first year. I know he has had injuries but not in the last 2 years and hasnt done anything of note since. Time to step up to the plate.

Kosi is overrated ,he has good quaters but not good games,he needs to
shine now that Roo is injured and Gehrig is passed it.....

Ralphy · Post: # 564261Post **Ralphy** » Sun 11 May 2008 11:31am

adam cooney.!

Lloyd,

Tredrea -

Winmar7Fan · Sun 11 May 2008 11:46am

Armoooo wrote:I'm amazed you have McLeod up there, I actually have him as underrated, I believe he is not far behind the likes of Hird, Riccutio etc.

I cant see how someone that already has superstar status can be underrated but i just think that yes he has superstar skills when he gets the ball but doesnt get enough of it to be too damaging over four quarters week in week out and yes i agree im more concerned about the damage Simon Goodwin could do to us with 30 damaging posessions over 4 quarters than someone whos capable of producing a couple of brilliant passages of play.

gooner · Post: # 564264Post **gooner** » Sun 11 May 2008 12:05pm

Maxy Hudgton constantly gets big wraps without really showing any form.

Constantly playing taller than you really are, playing from behind and spoiling without giving away frees, keeping so called gun forwards to zero goals.

I mean, come on Max show some form!

Winmarvellous · Sun 11 May 2008 12:11pm

Pretty much our entire squad on paper. Would have to be one of the most over-rated team in recent memory. We really haven't achieved anything, and yet are constantly mentioned as the big threat at the start of every season. Thank God for Hawthorn stealing that moniker.

Ralphy · Post: # 564266Post **Ralphy** » Sun 11 May 2008 12:12pm

gooner wrote:Maxy Hudgton constantly gets big wraps without really showing any form.

Constantly playing taller than you really are, playing from behind and spoiling without giving away frees, keeping so called gun forwards to zero goals.

I mean, come on Max show some form!

before he got injured he was showing peak form.

had 3 of the biggest forwards in 3 weeks they didnt kick any got dragged etc ,

Winmar7Fan · Sun 11 May 2008 12:17pm

gooner wrote:Maxy Hudgton constantly gets big wraps without really showing any form.

Constantly playing taller than you really are, playing from behind and spoiling without giving away frees, keeping so called gun forwards to zero goals.

I mean, come on Max show some form!

Unfortunately due the circumstances and confidence all our star players are overrated at the moment but we know their true form is very different and theyll bounce back again im just counting players generally over their career how ever long that may be or was.

ace · Post: # 564272Post **ace** » Sun 11 May 2008 12:45pm

The brilliant Nicky Winmar may have had other things on his mind but McLeod ripped him to shreds in that Grand Final.
The best players are those who play best when it REALLY counts.

ace · Post: # 564273Post **ace** » Sun 11 May 2008 12:51pm

Matthew Lloyd picks grass because unlike his nose it can't retaliate.
He is so dumb that he has yet to work out that when the Telstra Dome roof is closed, there is no wind.

danners · Post: # 564286Post **danners** » Sun 11 May 2008 1:56pm

most overated player in the AFL:

adam goodes.

do not know how he has as many brownlows as r.harvey.

does not come close to the great man

gooner · Post: # 564289Post **gooner** » Sun 11 May 2008 2:06pm

ralphysaints35 wrote:
gooner wrote:Maxy Hudgton constantly gets big wraps without really showing any form.

Constantly playing taller than you really are, playing from behind and spoiling without giving away frees, keeping so called gun forwards to zero goals.

I mean, come on Max show some form!
before he got injured he was showing peak form.

had 3 of the biggest forwards in 3 weeks they didnt kick any got dragged etc ,

Erm, yeh, that's kinda the point.
Is there an emoticon for irony. I feel its much needed here.

Winmar7Fan · Post: # 564298Post **Winmar7Fan** » Sun 11 May 2008 2:48pm

ace wrote:The brilliant Nicky Winmar may have other things on his mind but McLeod ripped him to shreds in that Grand Final.
The best players are those who play best when it REALLY counts.

I thought every game counts and if they dont why are we so concerned about whos not performing well for us at this time of the season they may as well all rest themselves till it REALLY counts and as for singling out a game to make comparisons on players you obviously werent around following throughout Winmars whole career and what he was able to do week in week out . Can Mcleod go to full forward and kick 6 goals if needed up to 60 metres out ,take spectacular high marks consistently , be reliable to gather high effective disposals week in week out over the whole of his career and pinpoint a team mate at any distance by foot fluently off EITHER foot? Mcleod is a very good player but very one sided catch him out on his left and hes in trouble he wont even attempt to kick left foot.Get some old st kilda video tapes out because i think once players are gone we forget how good they really were as to players currently playing now.

Top4King · Post: # 564303Post **Top4King** » Sun 11 May 2008 2:52pm

barry hall LOL

Eastern · Post: # 564304Post **Eastern** » Sun 11 May 2008 2:57pm

When you also consider the salary package;

CHRIS TARRANT !!

Top4King · Post: # 564306Post **Top4King** » Sun 11 May 2008 3:00pm

Eastern wrote:When you also consider the salary package;

CHRIS TARRANT !!

hard to go past tarrant isnt it hahahaha he HAS been ordinary *knod*

Winmar7Fan · Post: # 564310Post **Winmar7Fan** » Sun 11 May 2008 3:04pm

Eastern wrote:When you also consider the salary package;

CHRIS TARRANT !!

Actually i think that one leads at the moment

esaint66 · Post: # 564365Post **esaint66** » Sun 11 May 2008 4:54pm

Like a few before me it is hard to go past tarrant doesnt look happy/settled at the dockers.

Also i may get shot down for this but buddy franklin in a way. He deserves most of the accolades he recieves but his kicking lest him down and i wouldnt be playing him up to be one of the top players of the comp when he is only young and obviously shaky at sometimes.

Also ....

* the Carr brothers
* Daniel Kerr
* Adam Goodes
* Matthew Lloyd
* Josh Fraser.