Rumour..Archie Fraser to go to new Gold coast Team!!!

tweedaletomanning · Sun 04 May 2008 10:42pm

I have it from a very reliable source that Archie met with the new consortium re taking the job at gold coast...

Life Long Saint · Sun 04 May 2008 10:44pm

Wouldn't be a huge loss...

Cameron Schwab is returning to this city at the end of the season...He'll be looking for a job.

SaintBot · Post: # 560918Post **SaintBot** » Sun 04 May 2008 10:45pm

He has publicly supported the expansion to Gold Coast a number of times. He isn't a Saint through and through so wouldn't surprise me at all.

bobmurray · Post: # 560937Post **bobmurray** » Sun 04 May 2008 10:56pm

Will it really matter if he goes

Mooksy · Post: # 560950Post **Mooksy** » Sun 04 May 2008 11:17pm

Life Long Saint wrote:Wouldn't be a huge loss...

Cameron Schwab is returning to this city at the end of the season...He'll be looking for a job.

Cameron Schwab is the last person I'd want. Failure seems to follow that bloke.

Life Long Saint · Sun 04 May 2008 11:33pm

Don't confuse on-field success with the lack of off field success.

This bloke has turned Fremantle around from a basket case off the field to a very powerful club.

He was also disgracefully sacked from Melbourne by "Diamond" Joe.

He is widely regarded as one of the best football administrators going around.

The Peanut · Sun 04 May 2008 11:48pm

Life Long Saint wrote:Don't confuse on-field success with the lack of off field success.

This bloke has turned Fremantle around from a basket case off the field to a very powerful club.

He was also disgracefully sacked from Melbourne by "Diamond" Joe.

He is widely regarded as one of the best football administrators going around.

What do you mean - do you mean organising the factional influences? They already had sponsorship that St Kilda could only dream of and I thought their Membership was very healthy considering the Eagles were already established and successsful. I heard him say on radio over here that there were many things in place that he was amazed by - one specific that I remember was how seamless and well organised their travelling arrangements were.

I'm not having a go at you - just interested.

saintsRrising · Mon 05 May 2008 12:38am

tweedaletomanning wrote:I have it from a very reliable source that Archie met with the new consortium re taking the job at gold coast...

Well they need some experienced people on board..
You would imagine that they would be talking toa lot of current club officials...and that Archie would be on their possibles list....along with others...

Mr Magic · Post: # 561001Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 05 May 2008 12:43am

Life Long Saint wrote: He was also disgracefully sacked from Melbourne by "Diamond" Joe.

What does that mean?
If the rumours were correct he was 'guilty' of a similar thing that saw BW leave us.
Does that mean BW was 'disgracefully sacked' by Rod Butters?

Life Long Saint · Mon 05 May 2008 8:19am

Mr Magic wrote:
Life Long Saint wrote: He was also disgracefully sacked from Melbourne by "Diamond" Joe.
What does that mean?
If the rumours were correct he was 'guilty' of a similar thing that saw BW leave us.
Does that mean BW was 'disgracefully sacked' by Rod Butters?

That means that he found out he was sacked by reading a headline in the paper out the front of a newsagent on his morning jog.

I have no idea about the rumours that you are referring to. Feel free to elaborate.

Mr Magic · Post: # 561078Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 05 May 2008 8:33am

Life Long Saint wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
Life Long Saint wrote: He was also disgracefully sacked from Melbourne by "Diamond" Joe.
What does that mean?
If the rumours were correct he was 'guilty' of a similar thing that saw BW leave us.
Does that mean BW was 'disgracefully sacked' by Rod Butters?

That means that he found out he was sacked by reading a headline in the paper out the front of a newsagent on his morning jog.

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You know that for a fact, because I would find it astonishing if it were true?

osama milne laden · Mon 05 May 2008 9:38am

<<<He is widely regarded as one of the best football administrators going around.

did great things at richmond!

hasn't been at Harvard most of the time lately?

>>>He was also disgracefully sacked from Melbourne by "Diamond" Joe.

The raids follow revelations of payments made to Lyon and allegedly hidden from the Tax Office and the AFL from 1995 to 1998. Melbourne made the payments when it breached the AFL salary cap over that four-year period and were revealed during the presidency of Joseph Gutnick.
While the football club paid a $400,000 fine to the Tax Office for more than $1 million of undisclosed payments, several former footballers, including Lyon, have remained under investigation. A cash payment of $30,000 to Lyon resulted in the Demons being fined $55,000 by the Tax Office.
On top of the tax fine, the AFL fined the Demons $350,000 for salary cap breaches and banned the club from recruiting in the 1999 national player draft - a sequence of events that culminated in the departure of former chief executive Cameron Schwab.

meher baba · Mon 05 May 2008 10:03am

I don't necessarily believe the rumour at the start of this thread. To start another rumour, AF could just as easily have been meeting with the consortium to sort out a deal for Riewoldt to finish his career there in exchange for us getting some of their priority picks or whatever (this deal is inevitable IMO: if we try to fight it, the AFL big wigs - most of whom believe that we were extremely lucky in the first place to get Riewoldt over the Lions - will simply force our hand).

If the rumour is true, it just goes to illustrate once again that AF is about as loyal and trustworthy as Wayne Carey.

If he goes, I hope he takes with him the idiotic attempt to copy the Swans which he has imposed on our club.

saintly · Post: # 561113Post **saintly** » Mon 05 May 2008 10:32am

meher baba wrote: If he goes, I hope he takes with him the idiotic attempt to copy the Swans which he has imposed on our club.

according to everyone. from coaches to all players that have been interviewed over the past few weeks. the saints are not copy copying the swans they are just not executing the game plan.

meher baba · Mon 05 May 2008 10:48am

saintly wrote:
meher baba wrote: If he goes, I hope he takes with him the idiotic attempt to copy the Swans which he has imposed on our club.
according to everyone. from coaches to all players that have been interviewed over the past few weeks. the saints are not copy copying the swans they are just not executing the game plan.

That's right, and George W Bush announced victory in Iraq on many occasions as well....................

Life Long Saint · Mon 05 May 2008 12:23pm

Mr Magic wrote:You know that for a fact, because I would find it astonishing if it were true?

Told by the man himself.

Mr Magic · Post: # 561196Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 05 May 2008 1:50pm

Did he receive a settlement from MFC for 'wrongful dismissal'?

Life Long Saint · Mon 05 May 2008 1:56pm

The disgraceful was not about the reasons rather the method.

When a president or chairman sacks a CEO it should be done face to face rather than leaked to the press.

rodgerfox · Post: # 561205Post **rodgerfox** » Mon 05 May 2008 2:17pm

Mooksy wrote:
Life Long Saint wrote:Wouldn't be a huge loss...

Cameron Schwab is returning to this city at the end of the season...He'll be looking for a job.
Cameron Schwab is the last person I'd want. Failure seems to follow that bloke.

Totally agree.

A poor man's Greg Miller (and boy, that is saying something!).

Complete dud.

Eastern · Post: # 561225Post **Eastern** » Mon 05 May 2008 2:57pm

My take is that Archie did a reasonable job in his 1st few years (made mistakes, but we all do). It is in the last 12-18 months that he has really excelled in his job and that would mean that he would be a big loss if he gets poached by the Gold Coast.

This is all purely speculation and rumour at this stage. Lets hope that Archie stays with the saints to finish the job that he started !!

evertonfc · Post: # 561237Post **evertonfc** » Mon 05 May 2008 3:09pm

rodgerfox wrote:
Mooksy wrote:
Life Long Saint wrote:Wouldn't be a huge loss...

Cameron Schwab is returning to this city at the end of the season...He'll be looking for a job.
Cameron Schwab is the last person I'd want. Failure seems to follow that bloke.
Totally agree.

A poor man's Greg Miller (and boy, that is saying something!).

Complete dud.

Neil Balme was a mindless git in the eyes of the football world for the past decade...and now he's a miracle worker.

Perspective, eh?

Saint Bev · Post: # 561639Post **Saint Bev** » Mon 05 May 2008 11:23pm

What an absolute load of bollocks, seriously where does this come from? Sure he is having a great laugh over this claim. And please, who ever said he's not "St Kilda, through and through", obviously doesn't know him.

Eastern · Post: # 561640Post **Eastern** » Mon 05 May 2008 11:24pm

3AW ran with it earlier tonight !!

stinger · Post: # 561656Post **stinger** » Mon 05 May 2008 11:56pm

Mr Magic wrote:
Life Long Saint wrote: He was also disgracefully sacked from Melbourne by "Diamond" Joe.
What does that mean?
If the rumours were correct he was 'guilty' of a similar thing that saw BW leave us.
Does that mean BW was 'disgracefully sacked' by Rod Butters?

the apple never falls far from the tree.....

saintly · Post: # 561714Post **saintly** » Tue 06 May 2008 9:05am

Eastern wrote:3AW ran with it earlier tonight !!

and? what was said?

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