Do we have any game busters?

3rd generation saint · Sun 27 Apr 2008 2:33pm

Can somebody please advise who on our list is capable of busting a game apart.

Look at Geelong, they have Ablett, Johnson, Mooney and probably others who can swing a game in 5 minutes of brilliance.

I look through our list and the last guy we had who could do that was G Train of 2004-05.

Also, a lot is made of our second half of the season last year, yes we won games, but we never absolutely smashed a team, we just won.

In the 2nd half of 2003 we not only started winning, we smashed and other teams in the competition started to fear us a little. I don't believe anyone fears us anymore because they all know we are beatable.

saintsRrising · Sun 27 Apr 2008 2:46pm

No....though Roo can have patches approaching it.

Kosi sometimes threatens......but does not deliver.....

Grammy had one goldern year....

We win (against good teams) by having the majority of the team playing well for most of the game..........which at present is a rare event.

sunsaint · Post: # 555856Post **sunsaint** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 4:46pm

Sadly the last one I can remember was Mr Magic Winmar

MikeSheahan · Sun 27 Apr 2008 4:55pm

Certainly do have a game buster! Fraser Gehrig! Just a question of whether he is still up for more?

groupie1 · Post: # 555922Post **groupie1** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 6:45pm

Gehrig, Kosi, potentially Goose and Goddard

Bernard Shakey · Sun 27 Apr 2008 6:48pm

Goose? No way.

groupie1 · Post: # 555940Post **groupie1** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 6:59pm

you don't remember Goose of 04 / 05?

The_Dud · Post: # 555955Post **The_Dud** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 7:21pm

our current gameplan doesn't give anyone a chance to attack and bust open a game

saintsRrising · Sun 27 Apr 2008 7:43pm

The_Dud wrote:our current gameplan doesn't give anyone a chance to attack and bust open a game

Cats game we had 29 scoring shots against the cats...the highest by any team for quite some time.

Dogs game saw plenty of ball to the big forwards in the first quarter....

Gameplan gives players plenty of chances to shine if the players are good enough....

...thing is when passes are kicked to the advantage of the opposition it is pretty hard for anyone to star.

The_Dud · Post: # 555982Post **The_Dud** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 7:48pm

saintsRrising wrote:
The_Dud wrote:our current gameplan doesn't give anyone a chance to attack and bust open a game
Cats game we had 29 scoring shots against the cats...the highest by any team for quite some time.

Dogs games saw plenty of ball to the big forwards in the first quarter....

Gameplan gives players plenty of chances to shine if the players are good enough....

...thing is when passes are kicked to the advantage of the opposition it is pretty hard for anyone to star.

when your continaull kicking to a 3 on 1 in your forward line, ur gonna find an opposition most of the time.....

saintsRrising · Sun 27 Apr 2008 7:52pm

The_Dud wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
The_Dud wrote:our current gameplan doesn't give anyone a chance to attack and bust open a game
Cats game we had 29 scoring shots against the cats...the highest by any team for quite some time.

Dogs games saw plenty of ball to the big forwards in the first quarter....

Gameplan gives players plenty of chances to shine if the players are good enough....

...thing is when passes are kicked to the advantage of the opposition it is pretty hard for anyone to star.
when your continaull kicking to a 3 on 1 in your forward line, ur gonna find an opposition most of the time.....

That is the stupidity of the passer....

Scoring shots result when the players do what they are meant to

troube is too many of our players cannot seem to nail goals on the run.

Armo is a welcome change in this regard.

The_Dud · Post: # 555991Post **The_Dud** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 7:56pm

i'm not saying that our goal kicking isn't a big problem

but when we continually move the ball slowly, chipping around, flooding up the ground, allowing the oppositon to play one or two men loose in defence, and bomb it in long after theres no other option, i'd say that thats the gameplan, not the players

if we played like the Hawks, Dogs or Cats, we'd be up that end of the ladder atm, with the Hawks, Dogs and Cats.....

saintsRrising · Sun 27 Apr 2008 8:06pm

The_Dud wrote:i'm not saying that our goal kicking isn't a big problem

but when we continually move the ball slowly, chipping around, flooding up the ground, allowing the oppositon to play one or two men loose in defence, and bomb it in long after theres no other option, i'd say that thats the gameplan, not the players

if we played like the Hawks, Dogs or Cats, we'd be up that end of the ladder atm, with the Hawks, Dogs and Cats.....

I actually do not think it is all the gameplan...

Some yes...

I think it is mainly that the players lack the confidence and workrate to enact the gameplan as it is meant to be...,,

The coach needs to find a way to engage them...as they are not on Roo's bus at present.

The_Dud · Post: # 555998Post **The_Dud** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 8:07pm

saintsRrising wrote:
The_Dud wrote:i'm not saying that our goal kicking isn't a big problem

but when we continually move the ball slowly, chipping around, flooding up the ground, allowing the oppositon to play one or two men loose in defence, and bomb it in long after theres no other option, i'd say that thats the gameplan, not the players

if we played like the Hawks, Dogs or Cats, we'd be up that end of the ladder atm, with the Hawks, Dogs and Cats.....
I actually do not think it is all the gameplan...

Some yes...

I think it is mainly that the players lack the confidence and workrate to enact the gameplan as it is meant to be...

so whats the solution? change 44 players, or change 1 gameplan.....

saintsRrising · Sun 27 Apr 2008 8:09pm

The_Dud wrote:

so whats the solution? change 44 players, or change 1 gameplan.....

Ii don't think changing the gameplan in itself would make a difference....

Poor execution is poor execution....

Poor kicking is poor kicking...

The_Dud · Post: # 556002Post **The_Dud** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 8:11pm

saintsRrising wrote:
The_Dud wrote:

so whats the solution? change 44 players, or change 1 gameplan.....
Ii don't think changing the gameplan in itself would make a difference....

Poor execution is poor execution....

Poor kicking is poor kicking...

then devise a gamplan that doesn't revolve around precise kicking across the backline....

use run, link up handballs, use long attacking kicks

give the team the BEST CHANCE to succeed

WaggaSaint · Post: # 556016Post **WaggaSaint** » Sun 27 Apr 2008 8:26pm

Whatever happened to midfielders having shots from 50?

seems that they just want to put it to a forward without having a crack themselves?

You look at all other teams who are playing well (and most that are playing average), they all have shots from on or outside 50.

You don't necessarily need a game buster, if you have 5 other players who can fire it in - in particular BJ, Dal, Goose, Gram, Lenny, et al.

By all means, you should pass it to the forwards, but not unless they are on a decent lead, or double teamed.

We use to do this, and we would post big scores, seems that we've slunk into a posession gameplan. Stupid.