Changes vs Essendon

Devilhead · Post: # 546415Post **Devilhead** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 5:54pm

Out Fiora in C. Gardiner or Armitage
Out Blake in M. Gardiner

craigfox · Post: # 546430Post **craigfox** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 5:59pm

If Schnieder is ok he will definently be back

terry smith rules · Sat 12 Apr 2008 6:02pm

of course call for the same old scalps

blake was not nearly the worst saint

Devilhead · Post: # 546439Post **Devilhead** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 6:04pm

terry smith rules wrote:of course call for the same old scalps

blake was not nearly the worst saint

Yeah but he is slow slow slow to make a decision - enough is enough

forgot about Schneider - out X Clarke give him a break from the knock and get him into the damn weight room

Wollongong_saint · Sat 12 Apr 2008 6:06pm

I wan't M. Gardiner back which tall player makes way? Fraser Gehrig is the only one I can think of but he just has that potential to break games.

meher baba · Post: # 546446Post **meher baba** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 6:09pm

Devilhead wrote: out X Clarke give him a break from the knock and get him into the damn weight room

Is there anything anyone can do in the weight room that would ensure that they could get up right away from a massive elbow to the head??

Otiman · Post: # 546524Post **Otiman** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 6:50pm

Out: Blake, Clarke, Harvey, S. Fisher
In: C. Gardiner, Armitage, Birss, M. Gardiner

sassy · Post: # 546532Post **sassy** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 6:53pm

I think we need to make several changes and look to player development.

We have had loyal players- who are no longer going to take us to the next level and so we need to look to player development. We do have a core though.

This means out:

Gehrig, Hudgeton, Clarke and Blake, Harvey

In:

C Gardiner, Schnieder, Armitage, M. Gardiner, Ferguson

Also C Jones is not up to it (yes great endeavour but not skillful enough) and if we learn anything from today from Geelong is that you must be skill ful to win.

We must also change our structure. At the moment our style is not giving a chance to win

Saint_in_SA · Sat 12 Apr 2008 6:54pm

Out: C. Jones - clearly can't use it unfortunately

The_Dud · Post: # 546537Post **The_Dud** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 6:55pm

Saint_in_SA wrote:Out: C. Jones - clearly can't use it unfortunately

you MUST be kidding.....

SaintBot · Post: # 546546Post **SaintBot** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 6:58pm

In: M.Gardiner, A.Schneider, (Best Player Tonight From Casey), Geary

Out: J.Blake, A.Fiora, M.Maguire/C.Jones/X.Clarke

Gardiner and Schneider are no brainers if fit - Hopefully Armitage or Birss has a real solid game tonight and can push themselves into the side.

Blake was just woeful, Fiora did nothing...Maguire wont have an opponent next week, even if Lloyd is back/If they want to leave him in for match time then Jones even though he did fairly well or Clarke are the likely exclusions.

Geary could also return if he does well tonight

st_Trav_ofWA · Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:01pm

Saint_in_SA wrote:Out: C. Jones - clearly can't use it unfortunately

why the heck do people always wanna cut the guys who get the ball the most ? who actually put in an effort ? serioulsy on that performance lenny deserves to be cut b4 Blake or jones but heck we cant diss one of our "stars" can we

to be honest i would drop Fizz and L Fisher next week for Shnides and Charlie

and if Gardi is right to come back then charlie misses again

evertonfc · Post: # 546555Post **evertonfc** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:02pm

Out:
Jason Blake - Tries, but so did Tim Elliott. Is about VFL reserves level in skill, pace and decision making. Nowhere near good enough, even if the uber-optimists will support him to the death.

Clinton Jones - Geary's better at this stage.

Robert Harvey - if injured.
Xavier Clarke - if injured.
Sam Fisher - if injured.

In:

Adam Schneider - returning from injury.
Michael Gardiner - returning from injury.

Charlie Gardiner - Not the best kick but now so far ahead of Blake that it's impossible to compare the two. Allows us much more flexibility with Riewoldt and Koschitzke if we need to throw one into defence or the ruck.

David Armitage - because we need a midfielder to step up. Showed in the NAB Cup he's capable.

Jarryn Geary - Ahead of Jones. Offers more. Reliable.

Otiman · Post: # 546573Post **Otiman** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:08pm

See what the casey game returns before making judgements on Geary and Armitage.

Hawkesbury Saint · Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:30pm

Birss semed to really have a go in NAB Cup. I'd like to see him get his chance. I think he could surprise.

Beno88 · Post: # 546630Post **Beno88** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:34pm

Fiora has to go. Last year, we had no depth (due to injuries) and he played. Now we have depth and good kids. He is not in our best 30, let alone 22. I cannot understand how he continues to get a game.

Sam23 · Post: # 546633Post **Sam23** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:35pm

OUT: Gehrig
IN: Gardiner

SaintBot · Post: # 546634Post **SaintBot** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:36pm

Otiman wrote:See what the casey game returns before making judgements on Geary and Armitage.

i agree

important night for geary, armitage, cgardiner and birss

The_Dud · Post: # 546636Post **The_Dud** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:38pm

like someone has already said, Gehrig and Milne weren't the problem

matrix · Post: # 546639Post **matrix** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:39pm

if birss gets a game i really wont be happy.

SaintBot · Post: # 546643Post **SaintBot** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:40pm

matrixcutter wrote:if birss gets a game i really wont be happy.

he wins contested footy, he has a fairly good disposal, he can kick goals on the run, he can run-with an opposition midfielder

id be pleased to see him or armitage come in. even more pleased to see both

Sobraz · Post: # 546644Post **Sobraz** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:40pm

Out: Fiora, Blake, X.
In: Schnides, Armo, Gards (M.) - If Schnides and Gards arnt up and about)

In: Armo, C.Gards, Raph (yes Raph, and play him in X's role, forward of the centre)

The Sainter · Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:46pm

How could anyone want to retain Gehrig or Fiora???????? Name one team in the eight at the moment that either would get a game with? It would be a joke to even consider them again this year. Replace them with a couple of goers whoever that may be. What we need is 22 players who will play hard contested football, not carry these two passengers week after week.

The_Dud · Post: # 546670Post **The_Dud** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:51pm

The Sainter wrote:How could anyone want to retain Gehrig or Fiora???????? Name one team in the eight at the moment that either would get a game with? It would be a joke to even consider them again this year. Replace them with a couple of goers whoever that may be. What we need is 22 players who will play hard contested football, not carry these two passengers week after week.

If Gehrig was playing for the Dogs, hawks or Cats, he'd be nearly winning the Coleman medal

If we keep feeding him (Roo and Kosi also) rubbish, you can't expect him to kick you bags of goals

Sobraz · Post: # 546673Post **Sobraz** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:53pm

The_Dud wrote:
The Sainter wrote:How could anyone want to retain Gehrig or Fiora???????? Name one team in the eight at the moment that either would get a game with? It would be a joke to even consider them again this year. Replace them with a couple of goers whoever that may be. What we need is 22 players who will play hard contested football, not carry these two passengers week after week.
If Gehrig was playing for the Dogs, hawks or Cats, he'd be nearly winning the Coleman medal

If we keep feeding him (Roo and Kosi also) rubbish, you can't expect him to kick you bags of goals

SPOT ON... i cant stand it when posters blame G for losses... Any forward these days is only as good as their midfield supply... The forward entries ae rubblish at the moment, and that makes life very hard for G, Roo, Kos etc...

G-train is not the problem.