Did anyone see this pic from Saturday night's game? Graphic!

johnpeterbudgefanclub · Mon 24 Mar 2008 8:25pm

Sorry guys and mods. Please delete the below thread.

If you have all seen this pic already please delete and/or disregard. Absolute courage shown here and had me shuddering. That act alone would have inspired his 21 other team mates that much more.

SaintBot · Post: # 536386Post **SaintBot** » Mon 24 Mar 2008 8:59pm

surely photoshopped

fantastic photo if not

JuanTheSydSainter · Mon 24 Mar 2008 9:07pm

Looks like contact to the head to me!

Can't believe commentators noted Mattner's bravery and suggested it wasn't even a free? Mattner had his body positioned to take the hit 5 yards out and was never making a play for the ball.

It was a good hit. I'm happy with the free. But brave?

Imagine if it was Baker on Judd? 5 weeks.......

hAyES · Post: # 536395Post **hAyES** » Mon 24 Mar 2008 9:07pm

Just saw this on On The Couch and couldn't believe my eyes. Surely it's not real?

Armoooo · Post: # 536400Post **Armoooo** » Mon 24 Mar 2008 9:10pm

Can't believe it, that is crazy!!
Earnt his spot next week with that effort...

Iceman234 · Post: # 536401Post **Iceman234** » Mon 24 Mar 2008 9:12pm

hAyES wrote:Just saw this on On The Couch and couldn't believe my eyes. Surely it's not real?

It's not Photo - shopped - it's real.

Jones took the mark, Mattners eyes were nowhere near the ball on impact, and he was braced for a hit, not a mark.

Don't tell me it was play on please.

It was a mark to CJ, a free to CJ or a free and 50 with a report.

It was NOT play on.

Life Long Saint · Mon 24 Mar 2008 9:25pm

That real photo shows two things...

1. It was a mark. Jones shows that he has the ball clutched tightly into his chest. The only reason that it comes loose and ends up on the ground is due to the contact by Mattner.

2. That it was a free kick for being too high.

I agree with Iceman, Mattner was lucky not to get a 50m penalty for that. Jones had eyes ONLY for the ball. Mattner, whilst courageous, did not.

True courage is knowing that you're going to get hit hard but still going on with the task anyway.

It's what GT always said...Everyone has to take their turn. That was CJ's turn. He took it, a goal resulted and the final margin was less than a kick.

Iceman234 · Post: # 536423Post **Iceman234** » Mon 24 Mar 2008 9:36pm

Life Long Saint wrote:That real photo shows two things...

1. It was a mark. Jones shows that he has the ball clutched tightly into his chest. The only reason that it comes loose and ends up on the ground is due to the contact by Mattner.

2. That it was a free kick for being too high.

I agree with Iceman, Mattner was lucky not to get a 50m penalty for that. Jones had eyes ONLY for the ball. Mattner, whilst courageous, did not.

True courage is knowing that you're going to get hit hard but still going on with the task anyway.

It's what GT always said...Everyone has to take their turn. That was CJ's turn. He took it, a goal resulted and the final margin was less than a kick.

How good was it being there?

We saw CJ running back - we saw him look up and see the oncoming player. We saw him keep going even though we all knew he was gonna get smashed.

And he did.

It was inspirational, even to all of us in the crowd, it was just great.

Life Long Saint · Mon 24 Mar 2008 9:39pm

Iceman234 wrote:How good was it being there?

We saw CJ running back - we saw him look up and see the oncoming player. We saw him keep going even though we all knew he was gonna get smashed.

And he did.

It was inspirational, even to all of us in the crowd, it was just great.

The applause just seemed to go on for ever...It fired the crowd up (or was that woke the crowd up?)

Iceman234 · Post: # 536427Post **Iceman234** » Mon 24 Mar 2008 9:41pm

Life Long Saint wrote:
Iceman234 wrote:How good was it being there?

We saw CJ running back - we saw him look up and see the oncoming player. We saw him keep going even though we all knew he was gonna get smashed.

And he did.

It was inspirational, even to all of us in the crowd, it was just great.
The applause just seemed to go on for ever...It fired the crowd up (or was that woke the crowd up?)

It was silent for a short time, ala Kosi, but then when he moved it became a wave of emotion.

I love this game.

matrix · Post: # 536431Post **matrix** » Mon 24 Mar 2008 9:46pm

damn i hate living interstate sometimes

it was pretty good on the box tho.

just noticed this thread is on the front page twice

ace · Post: # 536514Post **ace** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 12:11am

That low life Carlscum Robert Walls said it was no free kick because Mattner was going for the ball

there was no head contact

ignores the fact that CJ took the mark

and then implies that the resulting goal kicked by Schneider should not have occured

with the implication that it was a charity and St Kilda did not deserve the win.

Put simply Robert Walls is a lying maggot.
He hates St Kilda more than any other team.
He has never forgotten a game against St Kilda at Princes Park where Jimmy O'Dea had avoided being tackled by him, Walls gave O'Dea a coat hanger as O'Dea ran past him.
O'Dea was carried off unconscious on a stretcher around the boundary.

Later in the day the pack went for a mark, Barry Lawrence's spoil was perfect.
Walls was carried off unconscious on a stretcher down the middle of the ground, delaying the game.
Oh how all the filth of Carlscum did not like it.
It was OK for their players to king hit there opponents out of the game but oh did they howl when it happened to one of their thugs.
Robert Walls has hated St Kilda ever since.
How dare a St Kilda player have the audacity to retaliate against his royal highness.

Saint Bev · Post: # 536517Post **Saint Bev** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 12:16am

Yes I saw that in todays paper. Really gutsy mark, especially considering he knew what he was in for. Well done CJ.

Quixote · Post: # 536519Post **Quixote** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 12:20am

Keep in your minds how fast both of those players are moving when the contact depicted in that picture occurs.

That HURTS.

riccardo · Post: # 536544Post **riccardo** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 7:18am

Was fantastic being there and seeing his courage, I'm certain he knew he was going to be collected, but went for the mark anyway - that courage personified.

Will the AFL sight Mattner over the forceful, high contact? If the roles were reversed, I'm certain Jones would be in deep trouble.

my les foote · Tue 25 Mar 2008 7:43am

I thought it was a great effort by Mattner. He gave himself every chance to mark the ball until he realised at the very last moment that Jones wasn't pulling out and would get there first.

If he hadn't protected himself it probably would have been a head clash which would have been worse for both players.

Mark / free kick? Yes

50m? I don't think so

Reportable? No way

esaint66 · Post: # 536873Post **esaint66** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 5:24pm

that is absoloute courage.

shows how much he wants to be in the side and how little he thinks of himself over the team great stuff.

would earn anyones respect for that.

mattner didnt run through him or anything so well done by him so well done.

Solar · Post: # 536881Post **Solar** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 5:45pm

this is why we love this game, was a free/mark but no way was it a 50 or a report.

Was a little silly IMO looking up to see what was coming but didn't let the sight of mattner charging at him put off keeping his eyes on the ball. Awesome courage and hopefully this is his moment to step up.

snoopygirl · Post: # 536897Post **snoopygirl** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 6:21pm

Perhaps he was just checking to make sure it wasn't a team mate he was about to collide with Solar. Not so silly if that was the case.

Solar · Post: # 536921Post **Solar** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 7:39pm

snoopygirl wrote:Perhaps he was just checking to make sure it wasn't a team mate he was about to collide with Solar. Not so silly if that was the case.

yeah good point, more thinking it's better to not know whats coming?

just made the whole mark even more couragous!

btw snoopygirl, told you lenny was in for a big one, no-one ever mentions the amount of work lenny does! 7 clearances!

saint66au · Post: # 536923Post **saint66au** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 7:42pm

Yep...Mattner got him with a very legal hip and shoulder I thought.

Barry Hall would have tried to put him in a wheelchair

ausfatcat · Post: # 536925Post **ausfatcat** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 7:49pm

Solar wrote:
snoopygirl wrote:Perhaps he was just checking to make sure it wasn't a team mate he was about to collide with Solar. Not so silly if that was the case.
yeah good point, more thinking it's better to not know whats coming? just made the whole mark even more couragous!

btw snoopygirl, told you lenny was in for a big one, no-one ever mentions the amount of work lenny does! 7 clearances!

But then i t wouldn't be bravery would it?

Isn't bravery still doing something even thou you are afraid???

â€œBravery is the capacity to perform properly even when scared half to death.â€

Solar · Post: # 536930Post **Solar** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 7:55pm

ausfatcat wrote:
Solar wrote:
snoopygirl wrote:Perhaps he was just checking to make sure it wasn't a team mate he was about to collide with Solar. Not so silly if that was the case.
yeah good point, more thinking it's better to not know whats coming? just made the whole mark even more couragous!

btw snoopygirl, told you lenny was in for a big one, no-one ever mentions the amount of work lenny does! 7 clearances!

But then i t wouldn't be bravery would it?

Isn't bravery still doing something even thou you are afraid???

â€œBravery is the capacity to perform properly even when scared half to death.â€

linz · Post: # 536936Post **linz** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 8:13pm

If players show guts like Jones did; there's a good chance he'll be a good footballer. Didn't he come 3rd in the Sandover medal count a couple of years ago? If so, he has SOME talent. It's up to our training staff to add the polish to play AFL. He's raw but well worth persisting with IMO.

dcstkfc · Post: # 536937Post **dcstkfc** » Tue 25 Mar 2008 8:14pm

Almost sickening. But so couragesous. Well done CJ, you brought the crowd to its feet.