Three Hawks Reported

Darren · Post: # 523140Post **Darren** » Sun 24 Feb 2008 11:48am

Those three include Campbell Brown (charging), Josh Kennedy (forceful contact), and Buddy Franklin (wrestling)!!

More here: http://afl.com.au/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsid=55569

saintbrat · Post: # 523142Post **saintbrat** » Sun 24 Feb 2008 11:49am

goes with the three they already have out- do they serve during NAB or during season proper?

mad saint guy · Sun 24 Feb 2008 11:52am

Nothing should come out of any of them.

The Cambpell Brown incident was just a late bump on a guy going for a mark (50m), Josh Kennedy could do nothing to stop his opponent from ducking his head and running into him (play on) and the Franklin wrestle was nothing.

Life Long Saint · Sun 24 Feb 2008 12:17pm

mad saint guy wrote:Nothing should come out of any of them.

The Cambpell Brown incident was just a late bump on a guy going for a mark (50m), Josh Kennedy could do nothing to stop his opponent from ducking his head and running into him (play on) and the Franklin wrestle was nothing.

Deary me!

Campbell didn't go the spoil at all...He just played the man. The AFL have been hot on this and should continue to be so...I also don't think his record will help him.

mad saint guy · Sun 24 Feb 2008 3:24pm

Life Long Saint wrote:Campbell didn't go the spoil at all...He just played the man. The AFL have been hot on this and should continue to be so...I also don't think his record will help him.

That is something that happens in pretty much every game of footy. It was a dumb thing to do (and there is a chance he'll be suspended for it), but there no was high contact, no elbows sticking out and all that came of it was Kruezer getting a bit winded. Shoudn't be suspended for that, but then again you never know with the tribunal.

Life Long Saint · Sun 24 Feb 2008 4:12pm

mad saint guy wrote:That is something that happens in pretty much every game of footy. It was a dumb thing to do (and there is a chance he'll be suspended for it), but there no was high contact, no elbows sticking out and all that came of it was Kruezer getting a bit winded. Shoudn't be suspended for that, but then again you never know with the tribunal.

I don't recall stating anything indicating that the contact was high. It was late and he had no intent for the footy. Hence, it is reportable...And he should go.

Armoooo · Post: # 523259Post **Armoooo** » Sun 24 Feb 2008 5:25pm

I can't comment on these incidents because I didn't see the game however as of late Hawthorn have been an extremely dirty team, I am really beginning to dislike them!!

Bevan Shorluey · Sun 24 Feb 2008 8:32pm

Brown will go, probably a couple fo weeks given his record I'd say. Never looked at the ball.

saintbrat · Post: # 523669Post **saintbrat** » Mon 25 Feb 2008 4:21pm

Brown 2 weeks and no chance or reduction due to poor record

they always come down hard early in the season.

savatage · Post: # 523670Post **savatage** » Mon 25 Feb 2008 4:22pm

Brown is an undisciplined idiot. Should definitely go for his charge on Kruezer. No eyes for the ball.

saintbrat · Post: # 523674Post **saintbrat** » Mon 25 Feb 2008 4:26pm

http://footyheads.com.au/index.php/2008 ... rown-gone/
BROWN GONE
Monday, February 25th, 2008 at 3:39 pmBY SHANE POTTER

Hawthorn defender Campbell Brown is set for some time on the sidelines after being offered a two week suspension from the AFL match review panel.

Brown was charge with a level two charging offence against Calrtonâ€™s Matthew Kreuzer in the fourth quarter of the round two NAB Cup clash at Telstra Dome on Saturday night. Due to his previous poor record an early guilty plea will not reduce Brownâ€™s sanction.

In other charges laid Carltonâ€™s Jarrod Waite was a bit luckier as he was offered a reprimand for striking Hawk Tim Clarke.

savatage · Post: # 523681Post **savatage** » Mon 25 Feb 2008 4:31pm

As far as I know, if you get suspended during the NAB cup, then missing games during that series tick off your games served, so even if he gets 2 weeks & the Hawks make it to the GF, then he'll be able to play Round 1. At least that was my understanding, as stupid as it seems.

terry smith rules · Tue 26 Feb 2008 7:45am

can't believe comments saying nothing in the brown hit

it was as cheap and cowardly as anything you could see on the field, yes he was only winded that is not the point, we don't want to see that in the game

if it was a saints player he had hit we would be screaming for his head.

lucky to get two, nothing tough or rugged about that bit of play

anyone who has played footy knows how easy it is too make that type of hit, but you don't because it is soft

HarveysDeciple · Tue 26 Feb 2008 10:33am

If we win friday night, it's a high likelihood of being off to Adelaide for the Granny

riccardo · Post: # 523872Post **riccardo** » Tue 26 Feb 2008 10:44am

terry smith rules wrote:can't believe comments saying nothing in the brown hit

it was as cheap and cowardly as anything you could see on the field, yes he was only winded that is not the point, we don't want to see that in the game

if it was a saints player he had hit we would be screaming for his head.

lucky to get two, nothing tough or rugged about that bit of play

anyone who has played footy knows how easy it is too make that type of hit, but you don't because it is soft

Case in poinmt: Giansira-loser on Kosi a few years back. How many weeks did he get for that?

Seriously, a front on bump that was hard and a little bit physical, but the kid got strait up and there seemed little malicious intent.

If this trend continues, our midfielders will have to change to Wing Attack.

Life Long Saint · Tue 26 Feb 2008 12:26pm

riccardo wrote:Case in poinmt: Giansira-loser on Kosi a few years back. How many weeks did he get for that?

Seriously, a front on bump that was hard and a little bit physical, but the kid got strait up and there seemed little malicious intent.

If this trend continues, our midfielders will have to change to Wing Attack.

Nothing at all similar.

Brown hit the guy from behind with no intent but to inflict harm.

The hit on Kosi was a shepherd that caused an acidental head clash. Comparable to Luke Ball - Matthew Whelan last season.

The only scrutiny that would come under is the head high contact. Ball and Kosi should have expected to be shepherded in those situations. It is not reasonable to expect Kruzer to have his back cannoned into by a player that is not intent on spoiling the football.

TimeToShineFellas · Tue 26 Feb 2008 12:46pm

savatage wrote:Brown is an undisciplined idiot. Should definitely go for his charge on Kruezer. No eyes for the ball.

Wouldn't have fancied his chances at the tribunal - IIRC last time he blatantly lied when he appeared (on the Judd eye-gouge charge.)

savatage · Post: # 523919Post **savatage** » Tue 26 Feb 2008 1:34pm

TimeToShineFellas wrote:
savatage wrote:Brown is an undisciplined idiot. Should definitely go for his charge on Kruezer. No eyes for the ball.
Wouldn't have fancied his chances at the tribunal - IIRC last time he blatantly lied when he appeared (on the Judd eye-gouge charge.)

How many appearances would this be for Brown? Be getting close to 10 surely...?

*BaLLy iS BeST* · Tue 26 Feb 2008 3:12pm

ok so, because he got suspended in NAB, his suspension can be served in the NAB comp.

but cos bakes was suspended in the home-and-away season, he has to serve it from round 1 onwards.

yes?

bit confused here lol.

TimeToShineFellas · Tue 26 Feb 2008 3:21pm

*BaLLy iS BeST* wrote:ok so, because he got suspended in NAB, his suspension can be served in the NAB comp.

but cos bakes was suspended in the home-and-away season, he has to serve it from round 1 onwards.

yes? bit confused here lol.

If you read what you just wrote, you shouldn't be confused.

Suspension in NAB Cup = suspended games to be served in NAB Cup if the team keeps winning, the rest of the suspension to be served during H & A. Therefore if Hawthorn gets knocked off in Adelaide, then Brown will miss Round 1

Suspension in H&A = suspended games to be served in H & A Season (also carries to finals if suspension incurred at end of H & A season)

Bevan Shorluey · Tue 26 Feb 2008 3:24pm

TimeToShineFellas wrote:
*BaLLy iS BeST* wrote:ok so, because he got suspended in NAB, his suspension can be served in the NAB comp.

but cos bakes was suspended in the home-and-away season, he has to serve it from round 1 onwards.

yes? bit confused here lol.
If you read what you just wrote, you shouldn't be confused.

Suspension in NAB Cup = suspended games to be served in NAB Cup if the team keeps winning, the rest of the suspension to be served during H & A. Therefore if Hawthorn gets knocked off in Adelaide, then Brown will miss Round 1

Suspension in H&A = suspended games to be served in H & A Season (also carries to finals if suspension incurred at end of H & A season)

Another silly AFL inconsistency. Why should it be considered not as bad to belt someone in a NAB Cup game?

*BaLLy iS BeST* · Tue 26 Feb 2008 3:29pm

ok cheers for that

jus making sure i was understanding it all lol. all these AFL rules can be confusing...hard to know what is going on half the time

TimeToShineFellas · Tue 26 Feb 2008 3:37pm

Bevan Shorluey wrote:Another silly AFL inconsistency. Why should it be considered not as bad to belt someone in a NAB Cup game?

I have done some research.

The following are the heaviest pre-season suspensions.......

Farmer, Jeff - Eye Gouging - 6 weeks - 2007
Pickett, Byron - Rough Conduct - 6 weeks - 2005
Alessio, Steven - Stepping on opponent - 5 weeks - 1994
Scott, Don - Striking - 4 weeks - 1979
Athorn, Mark - Striking - 4 weeks - 1989
Cox, Berkley - Striking - 4 weeks - 1963
Crosswell, Brent - Striking - 4 weeks - 1980
Doolan, Ben - Striking - 4 weeks - 1991
Dorotich, Jon - Striking - 4 weeks - 1992
Johnson, Michael - Forceful Contact From Front On - 4 weeks - 2007
Sierakowski, David - Striking - 4 weeks - 1997
Stokes, Mathew - Forceful Contact From Front On - 4 weeks - 2007

(Source: http://stats.afl.com.au/public/statisti ... ltyIndex=0)

Bevan Shorluey · Tue 26 Feb 2008 3:41pm

TimeToShineFellas wrote:
Bevan Shorluey wrote:Another silly AFL inconsistency. Why should it be considered not as bad to belt someone in a NAB Cup game?
I have done some research.

The following are the heaviest pre-season suspensions.......

Farmer, Jeff - Eye Gouging - 6 weeks - 2007
Pickett, Byron - Rough Conduct - 6 weeks - 2005
Alessio, Steven - Stepping on opponent - 5 weeks - 1994
Scott, Don - Striking - 4 weeks - 1979
Athorn, Mark - Striking - 4 weeks - 1989
Cox, Berkley - Striking - 4 weeks - 1963
Crosswell, Brent - Striking - 4 weeks - 1980
Doolan, Ben - Striking - 4 weeks - 1991
Dorotich, Jon - Striking - 4 weeks - 1992
Johnson, Michael - Forceful Contact From Front On - 4 weeks - 2007
Sierakowski, David - Striking - 4 weeks - 1997
Stokes, Mathew - Forceful Contact From Front On - 4 weeks - 2007

(Source: http://stats.afl.com.au/public/statisti ... ltyIndex=0)

Little doubt that they hand out tough penalties, my point is that players of a team travelling well in the pre-season are effectively punished less (eg Brown) as they get to serve it in the pre-season and not the H&A, which is stupid.