Our Best 22 - Depth is Good

[ashjam]

Afte the first 2 NAB games it is obvious our depth is excellent.
If our fitness staff do their job and we have some luck it will be a difficult Thursday night each week for the selection committee:
After much deliberation here is my attempt:
Can't believe that I cannot fit Schneider or Geary in at this stage!

B: Gilbert Hudghton Baker

HB: S.Fisher Maguire Gram

C: Montagna Hayes Dal Santo

HF: C. Gardiner Riewoldt X.Clarke

F: Milne Gehrig Koschitske

R: King Harvey Ball

I/C: Goddard Blake M.Gardiner R.Clarke

Emerg: Schneider, Armitage, Birss, Dempster, Fiora, L.Fisher, Geary, Gwilt, C.Jones, Rix, J.Allen, Ferguson

[ausfatcat]

schneider would be in the top 22

[BallBanger]

Afte the first 2 NAB games it is obvious our depth is excellent.
If our fitness staff do their job and we have some luck it will be a difficult Thursday night each week for the selection committee:
After much deliberation here is my attempt:
Can't believe that I cannot fit Schneider or Geary in at this stage!

B: Gilbert Hudghton Baker

HB: S.Fisher Maguire Gram

C: Montagna Hayes Dal Santo

HF: C. Gardiner Riewoldt X.Clarke

F: Milne Gehrig Koschitske

R: King Harvey Ball

I/C: Goddard Blake M.Gardiner R.Clarke

Emerg: Schneider, Armitage, Birss, Dempster, Fiora, L.Fisher, Geary, Gwilt, C.Jones, Rix, J.Allen, Ferguson

Not bad however i would like a harder edge up forward rotating the likes of Hayes/Dalsanto/Ball/Joey/Harvey/X through hF/FP/Bench.

B: Gilbert Hudghton Baker

HB:Geary S.Fisher R.Clarke

C: Gram Hayes C.Jones

HF: Schneider Riewoldt X.Clarke

F: Ball Koschitske C.Gardiner

R: King Dal Santo Montagna

I/C: Goddard Harvey M.Gardiner Maguire

Emerg: Armitage, Dempster, Fiora, J.Allen, Ferguson

lot of hard running midfielders rotate through ff/fp/bench gives us a harder edge up forward to hold ball in.
I'm not sold on Gtrain/Milne combo as ball comes out without real effort from same.
Kossie unlike GTrain, hits pack hard opening up many opportunities.

[mad saint guy]

Assuming everyone is 100% fit

B: S.Fisher, Hudghton, R.Clarke
HB: Gram, Maguire, Goddard
C: X.Clarke, Hayes, Montagna
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, C.Gardiner
F: Gehrig, Koschitzke, Milne

Foll: King, Ball, Dal Santo
Int: Baker, Blake, Gilbert, Harvey

We now have plenty of AFL standard players outside of our best 22. Charlie Gardiner needs to keep up his good form, but he has been excellent so far and it would be incredibly tough not to name him.

Depth

B: Ferguson, Gwilt, Attard
HB: L.Fisher, Miles, Dempster
C: McQualter, Armitage, Eddy
HF: Fiora, Allen, Jones
F: Steven, McEvoy, Connors

Foll: M.Gardiner, Birss, Geary
Int: Chivers, Howard, Rix, Van Rheenen

Emg: Haretuku

Of the depth team, I would have no issue if Attard, L.Fisher, Miles, Dempster, Armitage, Eddy, Fiora, M.Gardiner, Birss or Geary played the majority of the season in the seniors. Ferguson, Gwilt, McQualter, Allen, Jones and Steven can all come in occasionally and hold their own as well.

[Armoooo]

Interesting to see a lot of love for C.Gardiner, just don't get ahead of yourselves yet guys, every Geelong supporter I know has told me the same thing, he is the sort of play that gets your hopes up, shows signs he will be something special and then lets you down, until he can play 5 solid consecutive H&A games he will not be in my starting 22 when all players are fit...

[bigcarl]

Interesting to see a lot of love for C.Gardiner, just don't get ahead of yourselves yet guys, every Geelong supporter I know has told me the same thing, he is the sort of play that gets your hopes up, shows signs he will be something special and then lets you down, until he can play 5 solid consecutive H&A games he will not be in my starting 22 when all players are fit...

you might be right, but the signs so far are good. also, don't forget allen. a decent size and seems to know where the goals are

[Ghost Like]

Obviously we have a few players that pick themselves but I do believe players like Baker and Maguire may have to work hard to be 'automatic' selections. By this I mean, if Geary or Armitage are playing well...Bakes may need some compromising pics of Ross to get back in and if Max is fit and Charlie and Dempster make the most of the first couple of rounds before Goose is fit he may have to borrow those pics.

Round 1

Gilbo Max Raph
Geary S. Fisher Gram

Joey Hayes X

Charlie Riewoldt Schneider
Milne Kosi G

King Dal Ball

Gardiner Armo Blake Harves

Fiora Allen Dempster

Baker (Susp) Maguire (Inj.) Goddard (Inj.)

[esaint66]

today i was commenting to people about our depth because when we lost midfield players in the past we didnt have any younger players that could just step in but now that they've had the expierience of nab cup i think they can come in at anytime.

[Foxer53]

why do you think Raf Clarke he hasn't done anything special so far in the NAB cup and has had some bad clangers too

[plugger66]

why do you think Raf Clarke he hasn't done anything special so far in the NAB cup and has had some bad clangers too

Played one game and that was good so not sure what you mean.

[bigcarl]

why do you think Raf Clarke he hasn't done anything special so far in the NAB cup and has had some bad clangers too

i thought he was excellent in that particular game. among our best on the day

[TwoTowers]

Interesting to see a lot of love for C.Gardiner, just don't get ahead of yourselves yet guys, every Geelong supporter I know has told me the same thing, he is the sort of play that gets your hopes up, shows signs he will be something special and then lets you down, until he can play 5 solid consecutive H&A games he will not be in my starting 22 when all players are fit...

Don't listen - they are just annoyed that we have him as he is coming into his prime. No Cat fan could have been disappointed with Gardiner's efforts last season as he played consistently well. He picked up a career high 19 disposals in rnd 2 and was then dropped to the twos where he kicked 40 goals yet couldn't make it back to the senior squad. Played in the Cats VFL premiers and named in the best 10 times

[savatage]

Interesting to see a lot of love for C.Gardiner, just don't get ahead of yourselves yet guys, every Geelong supporter I know has told me the same thing, he is the sort of play that gets your hopes up, shows signs he will be something special and then lets you down, until he can play 5 solid consecutive H&A games he will not be in my starting 22 when all players are fit...

Don't listen - they are just annoyed that we have him as he is coming into his prime. No Cat fan could have been disappointed with Gardiner's efforts last season as he played consistently well. He picked up a career high 19 disposals in rnd 2 and was then dropped to the twos where he kicked 40 goals yet couldn't make it back to the senior squad. Played in the Cats VFL premiers and named in the best 10 times

They also tried to build him up & make him into a CHF, which he clearly is not! He's fined down with us & is playing that more mobile role that he suits.

[Iceman234]

For Charlie go to >>>

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... c&start=25

I'm an unashamed fan of our Gardiners.

[Otiman]

Here's a second 22, which is what we can expect to see happen if we get injuries, as far as replacements go.

B: Blake Miles Geary
HB: Dempster Gwilt Ferguson
C: Fiora Armitage Jones
HF: C. Gardiner Allen Steven
F: Connors McEvoy Eddy
Foll: Rix, Birss, McQualter
IC: Van Rheenen, Chivers, Howard, Attard

[jackal]

My two Cents Worth

L.Fisher Maxy Goddard
S.Fisher Maguire R.Clarke
X.Clarke Ball Montagna
C.Gardiner Riewoldt Gilbert
Gehrig Kosi Schneider
King Hayes Dal Santo
I/C M.Gardiner Baker Geary Harvey

I doubt this would ever happen with Suspensions/ Injuries etc. but on the fringes Milne, Gram, Fiora. Just behind Blake, Jones.

Actually I think a long kicking, fast paced and hard tackling side will win the flag (for a change ! ). This is our best chance to win the flag in my time (I'm just under 30yo). Our gaping weaknesses look potentially covered (ruck, small forwards and Tall Defenders). The Key will be the Clarkes (esp. X.) Montagna, Dal and a fit Ball getting protected in the middle and hitting the forwards on the tit inside 50 rather than on the wings as has been the case in the past.

Still think we will lose against the Bombers next week though (cash would be nice but really couldn't give a toss!)

[Scum]

I doubt this would ever happen with Suspensions/ Injuries etc. but on the fringes Milne, Gram, Fiora. Just behind Blake, Jones.

Gram on the fringes? Are you on crack?

[terry smith rules]

I doubt this would ever happen with Suspensions/ Injuries etc. but on the fringes Milne, Gram, Fiora. Just behind Blake, Jones.

Gram on the fringes? Are you on crack?

wouldn't have put it quite like that but..................

gram is easily in the best 12 players, and is vital for the make up of the team, people are quick to dismiss

again with the milne bashers, milne to me is absolute must in our best 22

fqf

[riccardo]

I doubt this would ever happen with Suspensions/ Injuries etc. but on the fringes Milne, Gram, Fiora. Just behind Blake, Jones.

Gram and Milne are BEHIND Jones and Blake.

Surely you're kidding.

Jones is improving, and Blake isn't the deasd weight he sometimes appears to be but Milne is an absolute game winner and Gram is crucial for our current game plan.

[saintsRrising]

I doubt this would ever happen with Suspensions/ Injuries etc. but on the fringes Milne, Gram, Fiora. Just behind Blake, Jones.

Gram and Milne are BEHIND Jones and Blake.

Surely you're kidding.

.

I think he meant that just behind Gram and Fiora are Blake and Jones....

[perfectionist]

One change in original team - Max OUT Leigh Fisher IN
Don't get too carried away with our "depth". As all the teams which have won the last 111 premiership demonstrate, the best team with the least injuries wins the flag. Each year there are about four or fives teams which, given their best squads, could win the flag. Of these, the one with the least injuries, wins.

If someone can provide me with the team that had four of their top ten out and still won the flag, then I will recant.

[rexy]

Absolutely loving this debate, so far the first side did not have enough mids and the second side only had 1 genuine ruckman. Its hard isnt it?

[Hurricane]

Interesting to see a lot of love for C.Gardiner, just don't get ahead of yourselves yet guys, every Geelong supporter I know has told me the same thing, he is the sort of play that gets your hopes up, shows signs he will be something special and then lets you down, until he can play 5 solid consecutive H&A games he will not be in my starting 22 when all players are fit...

I disagree with that, a Cats fan at my work was totally gutted to lose Charlie.

BANG BANG

[hAyES]

If Charlie Gardiner were still on the Cats people would be talking about how **** he is and that he has accomplished nothing. With Roo, Kosi and Gehrig I don't think there's room for Mr. Gardiner.

[Otiman]

If Charlie Gardiner were still on the Cats people would be talking about how **** he is and that he has accomplished nothing. With Roo, Kosi and Gehrig I don't think there's room for Mr. Gardiner.

I think having Roo and Gardiner in the team will be great. It frees Riewoldt up from his duties as a linkman on the wing, and he can stay closer to goal.

C. Gardiner will play as a HFF/Wing, and may kick a few goals, but he should be focusing on goal assists and I50's.