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St Fidelius wrote:
Still failed to explain your heart and soul comment after I (and others) pointed out some examples...
Pull yer head in
Yep, great come back
Do I need to? You don't get it? Really?!
Your 'examples'? Sticks- after a YEAR... Kane Johnson- ??!... and Barassi- captain/coach, Jezza- captain/coach (and both in the dark ages)... killer examples.
Do you really think you're worth attempting to engage rationally?
You're the one behaving like a petulant '17 year old'... My advice stands.
Yep I guess you're right...
Sticks, Kane Johnson both had the heart and soul of the club after playing just one season...
FAIR DINKUM...
I just know who is a 17 year old clown
Your "hatred" of just one club is really showing IMO
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
St Fidelius wrote:
Still failed to explain your heart and soul comment after I (and others) pointed out some examples...
Pull yer head in
Yep, great come back
Do I need to? You don't get it? Really?!
Your 'examples'? Sticks- after a YEAR... Kane Johnson- ??!... and Barassi- captain/coach, Jezza- captain/coach (and both in the dark ages)... killer examples.
Do you really think you're worth attempting to engage rationally?
You're the one behaving like a petulant '17 year old'... My advice stands.
Yep I guess you're right...
Sticks, Kane Johnson both had the heart and soul of the club after playing just one season...
FAIR DINKUM...
I just know who is a 17 year old clown
Your "hatred" of just one club is really showing IMO
Kane Johnson/Richmond is a joke... It may well have been true about Sticks, and a year is almost infinity compared with 5 minutes. Add that to the fact that Judd is TRYING to recover from a chronic injury and I don't see how anyone could be offended that I think it's a bad idea.... Life can be baffling.
devil saint wrote:It would have been more laughable had they not picked Judd. He is the best player in the league - everyone knows that and it would have been a big slap in the face to him. His leadership will be invaluable to Carlton.
And then we could have rubbished them for not picking him.
What some have failed to grasp is that there is great joy in bagging Carlscum - you know that Club with the silver spoon permanently stuck up its collective ar$e and who never grow tired of belittling the rest of us.
I've often thought that they should be forced to adopt a new logo - an airline sickness bag.
It would represent everything they stood for:-
to remind us of the way they like to conduct business and the fact that they make us all want to vomit.
And to be honest if we won the flags they have I wouldnt care how we behaved either.
To each his own Plugger.
Personally I've always thoght humility was better than arrogance.
I also thought 16 flags was better than 26 wooden spoons.
plugger66 wrote:I also thought 16 flags was better than 26 wooden spoons.
You may cop some flak for that line... some may suggest (unkindly perhaps) that if you think carlton are better than us you should go support carlton.... not me mind, just some.
devil saint wrote:It would have been more laughable had they not picked Judd. He is the best player in the league - everyone knows that and it would have been a big slap in the face to him. His leadership will be invaluable to Carlton.
And then we could have rubbished them for not picking him.
What some have failed to grasp is that there is great joy in bagging Carlscum - you know that Club with the silver spoon permanently stuck up its collective ar$e and who never grow tired of belittling the rest of us.
I've often thought that they should be forced to adopt a new logo - an airline sickness bag.
It would represent everything they stood for:-
to remind us of the way they like to conduct business and the fact that they make us all want to vomit.
And to be honest if we won the flags they have I wouldnt care how we behaved either.
To each his own Plugger.
Personally I've always thoght humility was better than arrogance.
I also thought 16 flags was better than 26 wooden spoons.
So, only the result matters?
AN if that is the case then why bother following us when we are so obviously an 'inferior club'?
Last edited by Mr Magic on Wed 20 Feb 2008 3:39pm, edited 1 time in total.
devil saint wrote:It would have been more laughable had they not picked Judd. He is the best player in the league - everyone knows that and it would have been a big slap in the face to him. His leadership will be invaluable to Carlton.
And then we could have rubbished them for not picking him.
What some have failed to grasp is that there is great joy in bagging Carlscum - you know that Club with the silver spoon permanently stuck up its collective ar$e and who never grow tired of belittling the rest of us.
I've often thought that they should be forced to adopt a new logo - an airline sickness bag.
It would represent everything they stood for:-
to remind us of the way they like to conduct business and the fact that they make us all want to vomit.
And to be honest if we won the flags they have I wouldnt care how we behaved either.
To each his own Plugger.
Personally I've always thoght humility was better than arrogance.
I also thought 16 flags was better than 26 wooden spoons.
devil saint wrote:It would have been more laughable had they not picked Judd. He is the best player in the league - everyone knows that and it would have been a big slap in the face to him. His leadership will be invaluable to Carlton.
And then we could have rubbished them for not picking him.
What some have failed to grasp is that there is great joy in bagging Carlscum - you know that Club with the silver spoon permanently stuck up its collective ar$e and who never grow tired of belittling the rest of us.
I've often thought that they should be forced to adopt a new logo - an airline sickness bag.
It would represent everything they stood for:-
to remind us of the way they like to conduct business and the fact that they make us all want to vomit.
And to be honest if we won the flags they have I wouldnt care how we behaved either.
To each his own Plugger.
Personally I've always thoght humility was better than arrogance.
I also thought 16 flags was better than 26 wooden spoons.
So, only the result matters?
Pretty much within reason.
Ends justify the means?
Do anything to win?
cheat
lie
steal
use performance enhancing drugs
nobble opponents
devil saint wrote:It would have been more laughable had they not picked Judd. He is the best player in the league - everyone knows that and it would have been a big slap in the face to him. His leadership will be invaluable to Carlton.
And then we could have rubbished them for not picking him.
What some have failed to grasp is that there is great joy in bagging Carlscum - you know that Club with the silver spoon permanently stuck up its collective ar$e and who never grow tired of belittling the rest of us.
I've often thought that they should be forced to adopt a new logo - an airline sickness bag.
It would represent everything they stood for:-
to remind us of the way they like to conduct business and the fact that they make us all want to vomit.
And to be honest if we won the flags they have I wouldnt care how we behaved either.
To each his own Plugger.
Personally I've always thoght humility was better than arrogance.
I also thought 16 flags was better than 26 wooden spoons.
So, only the result matters?
Pretty much within reason.
Raises so many questions!! The Saints should just follow Carlton's lead and do anything to win?? Is winning with integrity less important than just winning?? You obviously have admiration for the "success" levels of the Blues - and scorn for our club's history?? Hmmm, I want our mob to win the thing more than anything but I also want that win to be completely untainted!! Earned through good talent selection, excellent preparation, team spirit and whatever luck is required. Not through cheating the system or bribery or any type of dodgy actions.
I want to stand for something. I'm a loyal person and I think at the end of my career it will be great to look back and know that I'm a St Kilda person for life.
- Nick Riewoldt. May 19th 2009.
plugger66 wrote:Not sure if you read what i said. Within reason. Drugs no. Cheating well depends what it is. Steal no. nobble openents no.
I read it - was just trying to understand your thinking?
What do you define as CHEATING?
(the following are hypotheticals, some of which are obviously ridiculous)
Rorting the Salary Cap?
'Paying off' the Umpires?
Lengthening/shortening the final quarter when you are behind/in front?
Surreptitiously paying clubs ahead of you in the Draft not to select certain players?
Spiking your opponents drink bottles to affect their performance?
yipper wrote:
Raises so many questions!! The Saints should just follow Carlton's lead and do anything to win?? Is winning with integrity less important than just winning?? You obviously have admiration for the "success" levels of the Blues - and scorn for our club's history?? Hmmm, I want our mob to win the thing more than anything but I also want that win to be completely untainted!! Earned through good talent selection, excellent preparation, team spirit and whatever luck is required. Not through cheating the system or bribery or any type of dodgy actions.
I for one would not be happy if our club went down this 'win at any cost' path. But then maybe I'm just a typical 'Saints loser'?
yipper wrote:
Raises so many questions!! The Saints should just follow Carlton's lead and do anything to win?? Is winning with integrity less important than just winning?? You obviously have admiration for the "success" levels of the Blues - and scorn for our club's history?? Hmmm, I want our mob to win the thing more than anything but I also want that win to be completely untainted!! Earned through good talent selection, excellent preparation, team spirit and whatever luck is required. Not through cheating the system or bribery or any type of dodgy actions.
I for one would not be happy if our club went down this 'win at any cost' path. But then maybe I'm just a typical 'Saints loser'?
Maybe so, but you wouldn't be alone....
ROBERT HARVEY A.K.A The Great Man, Banger, Harves, Ol' Man River...
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?
Our history may not be one overflowing with accolades, but it led us to who we are and where we are now, and to what we will soon achieve... something I think worth celebrating and being proud of.
Carlton have no integrity, they can jam their tainted flags.
