Which Saints player is your rough diamond????????

saintsRrising · Fri 25 Jan 2008 9:19am

One of the things about being a footy fan is that we all have a player or two who we see more in than other fans do....

Whether he be a young recruit, a flawed player, a player from another club or someone who has been at the club for a while that has not quite made it.

It is one of the fans great joys to watch a player bloom and develop.....and is alos is ingrained in most Aiussies to give the "battler" a go.

We all have a player or two that we see more in....that others just don't seem to get or fully appreciate...well at least in "our eyes" anyway.

We might see them as a future star...or we might see them as just being part of the 22 as a GOP.

Some end up "making it"....some never do.

I remember wen I was younger watching Con Gorozidis and thinking that he would be the next star...but alas not.

In recent years I hitched my wagon to Fiora when he joined the club and it was personally very satisfying to see his confidence rise last year and him become aregular player.

I remember Gram struggling at first and Riccardo his No1 fan defending him against all comers...

Currently I have a bit ofa soft spot for Clint Jones and hope he makes it, but don't know if he can...

So which player is the one that you see more in than most Saints fans do????

killa_gram · Post: # 512211Post **killa_gram** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 9:21am

Obviously saying Harvey is out?

For me Schneids and big Rixy.

Eastern · Post: # 512219Post **Eastern** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 9:46am

I have a slightly different interprutation of what "ROUGH DIAMOND" means. My version is someone who is not silky smooth but gets the job done.

For that reason I nominate SAM GILBERT !!

Otiman · Post: # 512221Post **Otiman** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 10:22am

I generally pick a low ranked player from each years draft to follow through their careers.

05/06 - Justin Sweeney (now James Gwilt)
06/07 - Robert Eddy
07/08 - Eljay Connors/Luke Miles

The Peanut · Fri 25 Jan 2008 10:51am

Chipping around the rough edges of young Clinton's foot skills and game day confidence would improve his value quite dramatically, but where I come from the meaning of 'A ROUGH DIAMOND' is someone like cranny pete or rogerwa

. Perhaps I fall into that catagory too but I doubt that any resemblence of a diamond would appear in the end - no matter how good the diamond cutter is.

St Fidelius · Fri 25 Jan 2008 10:59am

Fergs for me...

Solar · Post: # 512232Post **Solar** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 11:03am

evertonfc · Post: # 512233Post **evertonfc** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 11:05am

Eastern wrote:For that reason I nominate SAM GILBERT !!

As as I opened this thread, I immediately envisaged it turning into a another Sam Gilbert "oh he's a bit unusual but what a talent" pumping up thread.

Now that Eastern has played captain obivous, do try to think of someone else.

I reckon Geary could be the pick.

Zed · Post: # 512244Post **Zed** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 12:03pm

I called Joey after the very first intra-club game he played - I had to wait a while but he finally came through.

Called Sam Gilbert after his first couple of senior games - looks like this will be his year.

Although he's established, I'm still waiting for Leigh Fisher to step up another notch.

Raph was a top 10 pick so not really a rough diamond as such - but one that I still have high hopes for.

Cant comment on the new boys or rookies until I see them in the NAB cup.

mad saint guy · Fri 25 Jan 2008 12:13pm

evertonfc wrote:I reckon Geary could be the pick.

I don't think I'd describe Geary as a rough diamond. He doesn't seem to have any real flaws in his game and seems to be highly rated by anyone who saw him play at Casey.

bigcarl · Post: # 512247Post **bigcarl** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 12:51pm

raphael. cops a fair bit of criticism on here, some of it justifiable. still think there's something there though.

used to be ts40. was upset when he got the chop

Eastern · Post: # 512248Post **Eastern** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 1:06pm

The Peanut wrote: where I come from the meaning of 'A ROUGH DIAMOND' is someone like rogerwa .

That will get back

!!

Eastern · Post: # 512249Post **Eastern** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 1:07pm

bigcarl wrote:raphael. cops a fair bit of criticism on here, some of it justifiable. still think there's something there though.

used to be ts40. was upset when he got the chop

It's quite easy to agree with you on this one, bigcarl !!

Saints Premiers 2008 · Fri 25 Jan 2008 1:46pm

goddard - ive supported him and his aggression 100% regardless...even in his real young days...

the man himself mr michael gardiner...mg...the big unit....the big show...i just hope he gets out on the field so i dont have a rather large amount of egg on my face after talking him up big time and having him as my avatar thingy for such a long time

oh and im a newly formed fergs fan as he is such a nice guy coupled with the amazing amount of extra pre-season work he has been doing

Armoooo · Post: # 512258Post **Armoooo** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 2:29pm

Attard, love the guy...

I also don't mind Blake... there it's out in the open, feel free to flame away

esaint66 · Post: # 512270Post **esaint66** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 4:27pm

Armoooo wrote:Attard, love the guy...

yeh im right with you other clubs fans wouldnt notice him because hes one of those players that doesnt win much of the ball but stops his player from getting it and you only really notice players like him if your live and you can see the whole ground.

milney044 · Post: # 512274Post **milney044** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 4:38pm

i was a big fan of fergus watts and now look forward to jarryd allen's progress.
i'll also keep an eye on van rheenen

BAM! (shhhh) · Fri 25 Jan 2008 4:41pm

Definately Gwilt for me. Plenty of reasons why he probably won't make it, but IMO, the talent is there that if he hits the opportunity at a moment while his confidence is high, he could be an AFLer at just about any position.

Attard is definately a hard luck case to be back in the rough diamond basket after he'd brushed up pretty well.

And I can't believe he needs to be added, but Raph definately has the toolbox for big things. I don't even see him as rough, distinctly unpolished, but definately a diamond.

Armoooo · Post: # 512278Post **Armoooo** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 5:16pm

saint edward wrote:
Armoooo wrote:Attard, love the guy...

yeh im right with you other clubs fans wouldnt notice him because hes one of those players that doesnt win much of the ball but stops his player from getting it and you only really notice players like him if your live and you can see the whole ground.

What is a true shame is he actually seemed liike he was going to start progressing and start winning some of his own ball aswell as shutting down the opposition befor his knee...

Solar · Post: # 512355Post **Solar** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 10:57pm

Armoooo wrote:
saint edward wrote:
Armoooo wrote:Attard, love the guy...

yeh im right with you other clubs fans wouldnt notice him because hes one of those players that doesnt win much of the ball but stops his player from getting it and you only really notice players like him if your live and you can see the whole ground.
What is a true shame is he actually seemed liike he was going to start progressing and start winning some of his own ball aswell as shutting down the opposition befor his knee...

love his type, you can slot him in as a back pocket stopper and forget about the oppositions best small forward. Has been a position we have cried out for in the past 5 years

Dazvolt · Post: # 512368Post **Dazvolt** » Fri 25 Jan 2008 11:23pm

mine is milney, loved watching him play in his 1st season as a rookie.
Have mate who is richmond and another mate who is a blue fan and they nominated krakour and houlihan the same time i jumped on milney.

evertonfc · Post: # 512403Post **evertonfc** » Sat 26 Jan 2008 6:34am

mad saint guy wrote:
evertonfc wrote:I reckon Geary could be the pick.
I don't think I'd describe Geary as a rough diamond. He doesn't seem to have any real flaws in his game and seems to be highly rated by anyone who saw him play at Casey.

He hasn't played a single senior game and didn't even go in the national draft.

He qualifies without a shadow of doubt.

sasaint · Post: # 512433Post **sasaint** » Sat 26 Jan 2008 11:22am

My 2008 roughie is Geary and I hope he tears the competition apart. Just to wet the appetite of some of the fans, here is an edited version of his 2007 Prospectus writeup

Geary won the Bendigo TAC Cup B&F in 2006 stamping himself as one of the competitions elite ball winners. From rounds 8-14 he ranked #1 in the TAC Cup disposals, uncontested possessions, handball receives and inside 50s. He also ranked 2nd in score assists in that time and over the course of the season he had the most score assists of any midfielder.

st_Trav_ofWA · Sat 26 Jan 2008 12:20pm

BJ always holds a special spot for me ive loved the way he gos about it from day 1 even when ppl were baging him as a dud no.1 pick

im always on the WA boys bandwagon CJ, gardi and Miles

iceman · Post: # 512446Post **iceman** » Sat 26 Jan 2008 12:35pm

Mine was always Gram, saw him play for Springvale years ago, and I knew he was going to make it. When he played his first game for St. Kilda I said to my best mate 'this blokes gonna be a gun' he just laughed at me, but now actually rates gram pretty highly.

Since seeing Gram make I have turned my attention to Ferguson, similar mould but just hasn't been able to get a look in when Maxi, Maguire, Clarke brothers etc. are fit.

He deserves to be in the best 22 somewhere, I hust hope it ends up being at St. Kilda!