Wednesdays training photos link

[Batnoe]

Few things to note

Schnedier looks a lot thinner and meaner, but also toned up. At Syndey i always thought he could have been overweight but he is looking ready to go

Maguire - i now know why he shaves his head, i swear he is going gray in some of that, that foot must carry a lot of stress with it. no wonder they call it a stress fracture

Ltn16- Change your picture lol

[claystreet]

King is a giant compared to Kosi
King looks fit............ very fit.

[karnak]

Of course King looks massive compared to Kosi,

that's what 5 or so preseasons extra will do to ya! However; Kosi is very strong and isn't carrying any fat,


One thing I did notice though is how big Milne's Quads are looking, he obvioulsy wants to work on his leg strength, interesting for forward pressure.

[snoopygirl]

New training tops look great. Not sure, but I think the Frankston Dolphins play in a very similar style jumper. It's a few years since I've seen Frankston play.

[midas_touch]

The training tops look pretty good. Is it me, or is Ross Lyon balding in those pics?

[LTN16]

Ltn16- Change your picture lol

Why whats wrong ??

I think it's sexy

[savatage]

Of course King looks massive compared to Kosi,

that's what 5 or so preseasons extra will do to ya! However; Kosi is very strong and isn't carrying any fat,


One thing I did notice though is how big Milne's Quads are looking, he obvioulsy wants to work on his leg strength, interesting for forward pressure.

Milne's always had the tree trunk legs, upper body has always left a little to be desired

[Bernard Shakey]

Training tops are gross.

[saintsRrising]

Of course King looks massive compared to Kosi,

that's what 5 or so preseasons extra will do to ya! However; Kosi is very strong and isn't carrying any fat,


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Plus king is 4cm taller....

[Teflon]

Kudos on the training gear - I hope it translates to a jumper design I reckon it also looks clean and sharp....

Anything but the urine stained acid washed clash cr@p from 07....

please let it be Lord...

[Batnoe]

I just went to West of moorabbin where there are more photos

Looking at the contraption on Bakers hand, it looks as though he has done a tendon injury in his finger, but possibly on the back of his hand


Who is the guy with red boots? he looks like a young Brett Voss!! Has Brett's dad been busy?

[LTN16]

Who is the guy with red boots? he looks like a young Brett Voss!! Has Brett's dad been busy?

He is definitely from the AIS because he is wearing AIS socks.

He's a tall kid when you see him standing next to Rix in the WOM pics.

[Armoooo]

apparently they are stilll taking it slowly with Goose, but he keeps surprising with what he can handle.

If Goose can have a relatively injury free season and play 20+ games I will become Misson's biggest fan, I like his approach, a lot better than our previous guys (from an outsider's point of view)

[saintly]

apparently they are stilll taking it slowly with Goose, but he keeps surprising with what he can handle.

If Goose can have a relatively injury free season and play 20+ games I will become Misson's biggest fan, I like his approach, a lot better than our previous guys (from an outsider's point of view)

not that this is a GT against the rest, but i was sure that in GT stated somewhere that each player had individual programs?

was i wrong?

[The Peanut]

apparently they are stilll taking it slowly with Goose, but he keeps surprising with what he can handle.

If Goose can have a relatively injury free season and play 20+ games I will become Misson's biggest fan, I like his approach, a lot better than our previous guys (from an outsider's point of view)

not that this is a GT against the rest, but i was sure that in GT stated somewhere that each player had individual programs?

was i wrong?

Yep, GT did start the individual player data collection process and the club spent some money on software in his reign to obtain well-being and other data. I am not sure of the details but speaking to Fizz the other day, he mentioned the data collection in the same breath as Ross Lyon's reign - so perhaps they are either using the data more or have taken the data collection a step further.

[saintm]

apparently they are stilll taking it slowly with Goose, but he keeps surprising with what he can handle.

If Goose can have a relatively injury free season and play 20+ games I will become Misson's biggest fan, I like his approach, a lot better than our previous guys (from an outsider's point of view)

not that this is a GT against the rest, but i was sure that in GT stated somewhere that each player had individual programs?

was i wrong?

Yep, GT did start the individual player data collection process and the club spent some money on software in his reign to obtain well-being and other data. I am not sure of the details but speaking to Fizz the other day, he mentioned the data collection in the same breath as Ross Lyon's reign - so perhaps they are either using the data more or have taken the data collection a step further.

Wasn't it after the collection of data at training one day that they made that now infamous trip to the movies??

[Oh When the Saints]

I have been told that there are no complete records of fitness or training management at the club for each player prior to 2006 ...

[plugger66]

I have been told that there are no complete records of fitness or training management at the club for each player prior to 2006 ...

All players have been given individual training programs for at least 5 years but it could even be longer. My memory isnt that good.

[The Peanut]

... Wasn't it after the collection of data at training one day that they made that now infamous trip to the movies??

You have triggered my memory and touched a nerve I believe.

[saintsRrising]

The wellness survey was not an individual training program......it just surveyed how each individual play fealt...and recorded it over time.

Ok as a tool for monitoring where players headspace is at....but it is in no way a proper player conditioning monitoring system.

From The Peanut's report on WOM..

Aaron Fiora Chat by 'The Peanut' (WoM Ed)
I caught up with Aaron Fiora for a chat over the fence.
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We spoke about the fitness and coaching staff. He said that the structured training is so much better than he has previously experienced and no matter where you are there is always a coaching staff member close-by. He said that the individual training programs were 'smart' and that the big men don't have to do all of the same training tasks as he does because they have different roles in the game.
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I think that there is individual training and there is individual training...

From people that I have spoken too including an ex-club Doc some players had individual traing, particularly injured ones...but by and larger all players were lumped in together wityh some tailoring.


Difference is now that EVERY player hasa fully individualised program and more importantly a completely individual assessement that the program is based on for a variety of factors from current fitness, past history...through to position that the player will be playing.




A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing......and previously our fitness and player conditioning was being run by guys who thought they knew...but did not.

Take Banger's foot. He jumped off a table and was lucky not to permanently injure himself, though reportedly now has a flat foot from it.

So what does that tell you when the Club's greatest ever player chooses to self-medicate ina dangerous way???? Complete lack of faith and respect for the so called professionals who were meant to be looking after his fitness and conditioning.

[stinger]

who is that running with goose?

your joking ofr course.......????


the fullback of the century is who.....

[rogerwa]

all sporting bodies since the days of charlie chaplin take breaks from training routines & have movie nights or other such get togethers

bet my leftie the bears during their 4 g/final yrs had a movie night

dont tell me the great hawthorn sides didnt do something "different"

we made one mistake we didnt have a training session BLINDFOLDED as the eagles did during their premiership season

imagine the chyt hiting the fan if we held a training session blindfolded

its all in the eyes of the beholder

[Oh When the Saints]

I have been told that there are no complete records of fitness or training management at the club for each player prior to 2006 ...

All players have been given individual training programs for at least 5 years but it could even be longer. My memory isnt that good.

Were records kept of the specific times and performances of players at training sessions and of when and after what activity certain injuries occurred? No, and it is this data that is critical.


Our fitness and injury department wasn's a shambles, but it was a LONG way from AFL best practice over the period 2004-2007.

It cost us a premiership. Period.

[plugger66]

I have been told that there are no complete records of fitness or training management at the club for each player prior to 2006 ...

All players have been given individual training programs for at least 5 years but it could even be longer. My memory isnt that good.

Were records kept of the specific times and performances of players at training sessions and of when and after what activity certain injuries occurred? No, and it is this data that is critical.


Our fitness and injury department wasn's a shambles, but it was a LONG way from AFL best practice over the period 2004-2007.

It cost us a premiership. Period.

Yes records were kept and that I can remember is from as far back as 10 years ago.

[Oh When the Saints]

Well, David Misson lamented missing records when he got to the club, so someone stuffed up somewhere.