Curious question.Harvey related :P

[saintbrat]

Musing last evening and this morning as I realised that many that harves Played against are doing a myriad of activities.

Harves Started in 1988-
is there a record of who else started in 1988?
what are they doing now?
how long did they last in the game?

My first up search hasn't found a source

[Enrico_Misso]

Brett BOWEY great rover
Jayson DANIELS great tackler and handballer
Mark DWYER very good midfielder
Gordon FODE good average player
Peter FREEMAN looked like a superstar in the reserves
Rodney GLADMAN don't remember him
Robert HARVEY no comment
Bob JONES Tasmanian aboriginal ruckman
Glenn MacMILLAN don't remember him
Ian MULLER Carlton reject
Sean SIMPSON went to Geelong and played well
Steve TURNER good average player

All started their VFL careers in 1988 along with Banger, and played for us.

[TimeToShineFellas]

IIRC Brett Bowey also debuted the same game as Harvs.........

Can't entirely remember when he finished up at the Saints and have no idea what he's doing now.

So I guess 1 out of those 3 answers isn't too bad!

[saintbrat]

what about players who may have started in all teams at that point?

the info I did find said South were already sydney?
and Westcoast and Brisbane in existance- by barely 12 mths

[rodgerfox]

Jayson DANIELS great tackler and handballer

Funny you say that.

I remember when I was a wee lad, I was down at training one night when Peter Hudson was assistant coach to Kenny.

He had to pull Jack aside about his handballing. He was explaing to him that when you handball, you don't just whack it with your fist and let it float through the air.

You need the ball to spin correctly (like a drop punt) so the bloke you're handballing it to to can catch it easily.

If it's floating like a helicopter, it can be difficult to receive.

I was about 13 at the time, and was perplexed that an AFL footballer had to be pulled aside at training to have this pointed out to him!

In hindsight, now I'm perplexed that none of his previous coaches had actually told him this!

[saint66au]

Was responsible for one of the most famous handballs in the Club's history I reckon...a FLOATING 30m effort to Cuz that set up Plugger to kick that goal v Carlton in 1989

[rodgerfox]

Was responsible for one of the most famous handballs in the Club's history I reckon...a FLOATING 30m effort to Cuz that set up Plugger to kick that goal v Carlton in 1989

Ha!!

Exhibit A You Honour!!

That was before Hudson got hold of him!

[GrumpyOne]

IIRC Brett Bowey also debuted the same game as Harvs.........

Can't entirely remember when he finished up at the Saints and have no idea what he's doing now.

So I guess 1 out of those 3 answers isn't too bad!

Bowser was coaching one of the bayside suburb teams last I heard.

[Pwoit]

Was responsible for one of the most famous handballs in the Club's history I reckon...a FLOATING 30m effort to Cuz that set up Plugger to kick that goal v Carlton in 1989

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Ahh the memories - I was there what a game that was

[Otiman]

A more mindblowing list would be a list of players who retired in 1988.

[Enrico_Misso]

A more mindblowing list would be a list of players who retired in 1988.

Here's 5 ...

Andrew MANNING
Tony R. EVANS
Warren JONES
John PETER-BUDGE
Alex MARCOU

[Joffa Burns]

Rodney GLADMAN don't remember him
Ballarat Boy who never managed a senior match to memory. Went to Collingwood after Saints and played twos the back home to the Ballarat league I think. I worked out with him (gym) a couple of times, he was a hard worker and a gun at local level but just not VFL standard.

Ian MULLER Carlton reject
Knee problems hampered this guy, he could really play in his early years and was as tough as nails. Currently grows garpes and (I think makes wine) up in the Shepparton district. Married a gorgeous woman. Was a hit with the ladies at the Saints Disco as he was a bit of a Christopher Reeves lookalike.

No offence Enrico but I think you use the word great a little freely!

[saintbrat]

ok all I found were more questions;
I know Harves was recruited from Seaford
how was the recruiting/drafting- (ok regions being fazed out) organised apart from regions.

below are the list of Draftees from 1986,1987 and 1988. Was this drafting process seperate to recruiting?

1986Pre-Draft Selections
Player Recruited from Club
Matthew Campbell North Adelaide Brisbane Bears
Stephen Connelly Central District Brisbane Bears
Ben Harris Port Adelaide Brisbane Bears
Neil Hein Norwood Brisbane Bears
Colin McDonald Woodville Brisbane Bears
Mark Mickan West Adelaide Brisbane Bears

National Draft Selections
Round Pick Player Recruited from Club
1 1 Martin Leslie Port Adelaide Brisbane Bears
1 2 Steven Sims West Torrens St Kilda
1 3 Steven Febey Devonport Melbourne
1 4 Richard Anderson Norwood Richmond
1 5 Michael Taylor Port Fairy Geelong
1 6 Richard Cousins Central District Footscray
1 7 Chris Lindsay West Torrens North Melbourne
1 8 Grantley Fielke West Adelaide Collingwood
1 9 Andrew Payze West Torrens Essendon
1 10 John Brinkkotter Barooga Sydney
1 11 Jason Taylor New Norfolk Fitzroy
1 12 Dominic Fotia West Torrens Carlton
1 13 Clayton Lamb West Adelaide Hawthorn
2 14 Scott Adams Clarence Brisbane Bears
2 15 Andrew Wickham Latrobe St Kilda
2 16 Matthew Febey Devonport Melbourne
2 17 Trent Nichols Sandy Bay Richmond
2 18 Mark O'Keefe Warrnambool Geelong
2 19 Matthew Mansfield Glenorchy Footscray
2 20 Brenton Harris South Adelaide North Melbourne
2 21 David Robertson North Adelaide Collingwood
2 22 Kieran Sporn West Adelaide Essendon
2 23 Lyndon Dakin Lonford Sydney
2 24 Mathew Armstrong Hobart Fitzroy
2 25 Doug Smart North Adelaide Carlton
2 26 Darrin Pritchard Sandy Bay Hawthorn
3 27 Adam Garton Glenelg Brisbane Bears
3 28 Darren Mansell Penola St Kilda
3 29 Craig Walker North Hobart Melbourne
3 30 Matthew Sexton Sandhurst Richmond
3 31 Glen Keast North Gambier Geelong
3 32 Wayne Mahoney Port Adelaide Footscray
3 33 Malcolm Shippen Moulamein North Melbourne
3 34 Craig Kelly Norwood Collingwood
3 35 Peter Reid Sturt Essendon
3 36 Donald Thompson Albury Sydney
3 37 Chris Duthy Glenelg Fitzroy
3 38 Simon Minton-Connell North Hobart Carlton
3 39 Matthew Queen Glenorchy Hawthorn
4 40 Stephen Williams Port Adelaide Brisbane Bears
4 41 Brett Jaffray Latrobe St Kilda
4 42 Anthony Lovell Glenorchy Melbourne
4 43 Andrew Gray St Patricks, Ballarat Richmond
4 44 Tim Britt Dunnstown Geelong
4 45 James Pyke Norwood Footscray
4 46 Gary Brooker Casterton North Melbourne
4 47 Brendan Hogan Assumption College Collingwood
4 48 Stephen Riley North Adelaide Essendon
4 49 Craig Elias Eastlake Sydney
4 50 Alastair Lynch Hobart Fitzroy
4 51 Andrew Herring Wynyard Carlton
4 52 Robin McKinnon West Adelaide Hawthorn
5 53 Michael Templeton Woodville Brisbane Bears
5 54 Paul Page Kennington St Kilda
5 55 Darren Jarman North Adelaide Melbourne
5 56 Greg Whittlesea Sturt Richmond
5 57 Michael Billman Boort Geelong
5 58 Perry Meka Lemnos Footscray
5 59 Wayne Morrissey Northern United North Melbourne
5 60 Wayne Tanner Norwood Collingwood
5 61 Andrew Underwood Sturt Essendon
5 62 Laurie Menhenut Tocumwal Sydney
5 63 Peter Winter West Adelaide Fitzroy
5 64 Darren Newlan Golden Square Carlton
5 65 Tony Symonds Glenelg Hawthorn

1987National Draft Selections
Round Pick Player Recruited from Club
1 1 Richard Lounder Central District Richmond
1 2 Chris McDermott Glenelg Brisbane Bears
1 3 Graham Wright East Devonport Collingwood
1 4 Andrew Brockhurst South Adelaide Fitzroy
1 5 Michael Quirk Myrtleford St Kilda
1 6 Andrew Rogers Woodville Essendon
1 7 Darren Davies North Hobart Footscray
1 8 Darren Jones Moe Geelong
1 9 Michael Murphy Glenelg North Melbourne
1 10 Michael Parsons North Adelaide Sydney
1 11 Tim McNeil Norwood Melbourne
1 12 Grant Williams Sandy Bay Hawthorn
1 13 Peter Bubner Central District Carlton
2 14 Wayne Peters Morwell Richmond
2 15 Andrew Jarman North Adelaide Brisbane Bears
2 16 Chris Grumley Sale Collingwood
2 17 Chris Waterson Cohuna Fitzroy
2 18 Patrick Browne North Albury St Kilda
2 19 Jamie Cox Wynyard Essendon
2 20 Stuart Wigney Leongatha Footscray
2 21 Shane Korth Natimuk Geelong
2 22 Scott Christie Strathmerton North Melbourne
2 23 Scott Salisbury Glenelg Sydney
2 24 Mark Ducker Norwood Melbourne
2 25 Damien Trezise Union Hawthorn
2 26 Stephen Oliver Castlemaine Carlton
3 27 Brendon Gale Burnie Richmond
3 28 Andrew Bishop Ainslie Brisbane Bears
3 29 Andrew Pascoe Norwood Collingwood
3 30 Ashley Byrne Boort Fitzroy
3 31 Jamie Keane Koroit St Kilda
3 32 John Cook Hamilton Imperials Essendon
3 33 Rod Gunn Hamilton Footscray
3 34 Stephen Hewitt Warracknabeal Geelong
3 35 Craig Patrick Wangaratta Rovers North Melbourne
3 36 Tony Virgona Jerilderie Sydney
3 37 Andrew Obst Port Adelaide Melbourne
3 38 John Polkinghorne North Ballarat Hawthorn
3 39 David Kernahan Glenelg Carlton
4 40 Bevan Cox Wodonga Richmond
4 41 Michael Kennedy Queanbeyan Brisbane Bears
4 42 Tim Wilson North Launceston Collingwood
4 43 Darren Wheildon Newborough Fitzroy
4 44 Bob Jones Devonport St Kilda
4 45 David Grenvold Glenelg Essendon
4 46 Gary Gunn Hamilton Footscray
4 47 Stephen McQueen North Hobart Geelong
4 48 Liam Pickering Stawell North Melbourne
4 49 Jim Silvestro Traralgon Sydney
4 50 Stephen Tingay Shepparton Melbourne
4 51 Anthony Dessent Maffra Hawthorn
4 52 Stephen Gemmill Cobram Carlton
5 53 Andrew Wisken Hastings Richmond
5 54 Adam Ladbrook Pakenham Brisbane Bears
5 55 Brendan Tranter Maryborough Collingwood
5 56 Keith Allan Central District Fitzroy
5 57 Damien Kischke Sturt St Kilda
5 58 Peter Bennett North Adelaide Essendon
5 59 Simon Tregenza Port Adelaide Footscray
5 60 Pat Gribble Traralgon Geelong
5 61 Darren Read Leongatha North Melbourne
5 62 David Querzoli West Torrens Sydney
5 63 Jay Viney Sturt Melbourne
5 64 Peter Nunn Koo Wee Rup Hawthorn
5 65 Dean Adams Shepparton Carlton

1988Pre-Draft Selections
Round Player Recruited from Club
1 Stevan Jackson South Fremantle West Coast Eagles
2 Don Pyke Claremont West Coast Eagles
3 Peter Sumich South Fremantle West Coast Eagles
4 Craig Turley West Perth West Coast Eagles
5 Scott Watters South Fremantle West Coast Eagles


[edit] National Draft
Round Pick Player Recruited from Club
1 1 Alex McDonald Ballarat Hawthorn
1 2 Todd Breman Subiaco West Coast Eagles
1 3 Carl Dilena Sturt Fitzroy
1 4 John McNamara Port Fairy North Melbourne
1 5 Chris Naish Wangaratta Richmond
1 6 Ray Sterrett East Fremantle Geelong
1 7 Leon Cameron South Warrnambool Footscray
1 8 Dion Scott Devonport Sydney
1 9 Michael Werner West Torrens Essendon
1 10 Peter Higgins Claremont West Coast Eagles
1 11 Mark Bayliss South Fremantle Collingwood
1 12 Brad Fox Perth Essendon
1 13 Darren Bennett East Fremantle Melbourne
1 14 Stephen Byers New Norfolk Hawthorn
2 15 Danny Craven Wangaratta St Kilda
2 16 David Bain East Perth Brisbane Bears
2 17 Brad Edwards Perth Fitzroy
2 18 Anthony Stevens Shepparton North Melbourne
2 19 Matthew Francis Ballan Richmond
2 20 Adrian Fletcher Glenorchy Geelong
2 21 Anthony Reynolds Wodonga Footscray
2 22 Paul Holdsworth Clarence Sydney Swans
2 23 Michael Long St Marys Essendon
2 24 David Hynes Port Adelaide Magpies West Coast Eagles
2 25 Colin Alexander Clarence Collingwood
2 26 David Regan East Ballarat Essendon
2 27 Rod Keogh Castlemaine Melbourne
2 28 Chris Martin Seymour Hawthorn
3 29 Tim Allen Mornington St Kilda
3 30 Richard Champion Woodville Brisbane Bears
3 31 Brenton Klaebe Norwood Fitzroy
3 32 Brad Shoil Horsham North Melbourne
3 33 Bruce Lennon Sturt Richmond
3 34 Daryn Cresswell Glenorchy Geelong
3 35 John Georgiades Subiaco Footscray
3 36 Nick Chidwidden Glenelg Sydney Swans
3 37 Michael Strickland Glenorchy Essendon
3 38 Jeremy Crough South Bendigo West Coast Eagles
3 39 Scott Russell Sturt Collingwood
3 40 Glen Johnson North Launceston Carlton
3 41 Michael Hobbes Eastlake Melbourne
3 42 Dion Rhook Hamilton Imperials Hawthorn
4 43 Daryl Griffiths North Launceston St Kilda
4 44 Scott Williamson Wangaratta Rovers West Coast Eagles
4 45 Damian Simmonds Wangaratta Fitzroy
4 46 Simon McCarthy Rochester North Melbourne
4 47 Glen Leaf Mildura Imperials Richmond
4 48 Scott Jordon South Launceston Fitzroy
4 49 Shannon Corcoran Glenelg Footscray
4 50 Jim West Glenelg Sydney Swans
4 51 Adrian Burns Dromana Essendon
4 52 Darren Bartsch West Adelaide West Coast Eagles
4 53 Michael Smith Devonport Collingwood
4 54 Michael Sexton Sandhurst Carlton
4 55 Andrew Ford North Ballarat Melbourne
4 56 Justin McGrath Ballarat Hawthorn
5 57 Pat Lambert Manangatang St Kilda
5 58 Lachlan Sim Moe Brisbane Bears
5 59 Matthew Dundas Assumption College Fitzroy
5 60 Derek Kickett Central District North Melbourne
5 61 Julian Moloney Mildura Imperials Richmond
5 62 David Welsby Sturt Geelong
5 63 Scott Davies North Launceston Footscray
5 64 Andrew Bishop Ainslie Sydney Swans
5 65 Rod Saunders Mooroopna Essendon
5 66 Matt Richardson Warracknabeal West Coast Eagles
5 67 Peter Divenuto Sandy Bay Collingwood
5 68 Grant Povey Claremont Carlton
5 69 Matthew Mahoney Eastlake Melbourne
5 70 Russell Wilding Lexton Hawthorn
6 71 Graeme Kettle South Launceston St Kilda
6 72 Chris O'Sullivan Coralynn Brisbane Bears
6 73 Stephen Walker North Hobart Fitzroy
6 74 Stephen Hamilton North Adelaide North Melbourne
6 75 Ty Esier Koo-Wee-Rup Richmond
6 76 David Preston Bairnsdale Geelong
6 77 Robert Bloom Ulverstone Footscray
6 78 Jamie Bond Beaufort Hawthorn
6 79 Simon Jorgensen Castlemaine Essendon
6 80 Damian Berto St Marys West Coast Eagles
6 81 Nick Probert Burnie Hawks Collingwood
6 82 Anthony Loone Deloraine Carlton
6 83 Brian Stynes Ireland Melbourne
6 84 Justin Crough Bungaree Hawthorn
7 85 Ian Dargie Subiaco St Kilda
7 86 Ben Sexton Sandhurst Footscray
7 87 Dwaine Kretschmer North Gambier Fitzroy
7 88 Justin Staritski Norwood North Melbourne
7 89 Adam Crudden Nar Nar Goon Richmond
7 90 Kym Nicholls Norwood Glenelg
7 91 Matthew Queen Glenorchy Footscray
7 92 Stephen Vizy Queanbeyan North Melbourne
7 93 Paul Hills North Ballarat Essendon
7 94 Andrew Gedden Mornington St Kilda
7 95 Tony Francis Norwood Collingwood
7 96 (F/S) Michael James Ballarat Carlton
7 97 Tom Grehan Ireland Melbourne
7 98 Michael Barrett Morwell Tigers Hawthorn
8 99 Dermott McNicholl Ireland St Kilda DID we precursor the Irish experiment??
8 100 David Kupsch North Adelaide Brisbane Bears
8 101 Leigh Funcke Minyip Fitzroy
8 102 Shaun Holloway Ballarat North Melbourne
8 103 (F/S) Sean Bowden Mildura Imperials Richmond
8 104 Andrew Gribble St Peters Geelong
8 105 Chris Grant Daylesford Footscray
8 106 (F/S) Gareth John Gisborne Sydney Swans
8 107 Darren Mead Port Adelaide Magpies Essendon
8 108 Peter Melesso Claremont West Coast Eagles
8 109 (F/S) Heath Shephard Robinvale Collingwood
8 110 (F/S) Chris Mulcair Bendigo Carlton
8 111 (F/S) Tom Kavanagh Castlemaine Melbourne
8 112 Troy Reid Woorinen Hawthorn

[GrumpyOne]

below are the list of Draftees from 1986,1987 and 1988. Was this drafting process seperate to recruiting?

Gee.... some class recruiting by us there...... NOT.

[HSVKing]

below are the list of Draftees from 1986,1987 and 1988. Was this drafting process seperate to recruiting?

Gee.... some class recruiting by us there...... NOT.

Remember... it was zoning back then.

[GrumpyOne]

below are the list of Draftees from 1986,1987 and 1988. Was this drafting process seperate to recruiting?

Gee.... some class recruiting by us there...... NOT.

Remember... it was zoning back then.

How did the draft and zoning work in conjunction?

[bozza1980]

below are the list of Draftees from 1986,1987 and 1988. Was this drafting process seperate to recruiting?

Gee.... some class recruiting by us there...... NOT.

Remember... it was zoning back then.

How did the draft and zoning work in conjunction?

I think zoning took precedence, ie Harvey was selected by St Kilda as he was withing their zone, this selections, and others like it, took place prior to the draft taking place.

I think this meant that the draft was for those players outside of the clubs zones and those overlooked, delisted or retired etc...

[Brian Collis]

Musing last evening and this morning as I realised that many that harves Played against are doing a myriad of activities.

Did u have a mouthful of cornflakes when u wrote this?