Why do Victoria have a Monopoly on State Footy????

sax · Post: # 495947Post **sax** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 12:16am

According to Kevin Sheedy, the best 50 players in the AFL will be playing in "the game of footy he's been waiting for", middle of next year.
What a load of CRAP.
This means that 25, of the best footy players in the country, are VICS!!!!
That's BULLS**T!!!!
I have to say guys, I love the Saints, but I also love SA!

Have a look at this team, and tell me how they'd go!

SA State of Origin!!!

B: G. Johncock, B. Rutten, S. Fisher
HB: R. Griffen, C. Cornes, S. Burgoyne
C: A. Cooney, C. Enright, P. Burgoyne
HF: M. O'Loughlin, M. Pavlich, A. Didak
F: B. Ebert, W. Tredrea, B. Ottens
R: B. Lade, T. Edwards, K. Cornes
Int: D. Pearce, S. Burns, B. Burton, B. Waters
Emg: J. Crouch, N. Fosdike, J. Westhoff, S. Hurn, B. Gibbs

(Sorry, I think the Saints only have 1 SA player)

nathan000 · Post: # 495949Post **nathan000** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 12:18am

no. it's the vic (anyone born in victoria). vs the rest of australia.

so franklin \ riewoldt \ pavlich, will be the forward line of the rest of aus

sax · Post: # 495950Post **sax** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 12:22am

NO CRAP!!!!!!
THIS IS JUST A HYPOTHETICAL SA TEAM!!!!!

sax · Post: # 495951Post **sax** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 12:23am

Who gave Victoria the right to think they're the best footballing state anyway???

Otiman · Post: # 495952Post **Otiman** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 12:31am

I don't see any history of VFL clubs wanting to join the SA(N)FL or WAFL.

nathan000 · Post: # 495954Post **nathan000** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 12:33am

it's being held to celebrate 150 years of football, seeing as victoria started football, i think they should have there own team, especially when 10 of the 16 league teams are from vic anyway.

i'm excited about the match, do you know of any possible lineups?

i've heard jonathon brown will be captaining victoria and andrew mcleod will be captaining the rest of australia.

The_Dud · Post: # 495958Post **The_Dud** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 12:43am

its the interstate teams who don't want SA and WA to be in it, as they say that too many of there players (Port, Crows, Freo, Eagles) would be playing

so go yell at them!

Quixote · Post: # 495965Post **Quixote** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 1:20am

sax wrote:According to Kevin Sheedy, the best 50 players in the AFL will be playing in "the game of footy he's been waiting for", middle of next year.
What a load of CRAP.
This means that 25, of the best footy players in the country, are VICS!!!!
That's BULLS**T!!!!
I have to say guys, I love the Saints, but I also love SA!

Have a look at this team, and tell me how they'd go!

SA State of Origin!!!

B: G. Johncock, B. Rutten, S. Fisher
HB: R. Griffen, C. Cornes, S. Burgoyne
C: A. Cooney, C. Enright, P. Burgoyne
HF: M. O'Loughlin, M. Pavlich, A. Didak
F: B. Ebert, W. Tredrea, B. Ottens
R: B. Lade, T. Edwards, K. Cornes
Int: D. Pearce, S. Burns, B. Burton, B. Waters
Emg: J. Crouch, N. Fosdike, J. Westhoff, S. Hurn, B. Gibbs

(Sorry, I think the Saints only have 1 SA player)

Ok I'll tell you then -

that team would get WHIPPED

Is that you there Graham?

evertonfc · Post: # 495979Post **evertonfc** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 6:21am

Top 25 Victorians > Top 25 rest of Australia.

This match will prove it. I can't wait.

I don't know what the other states are complaining about - the US plays Europe in the Ryder Cup, and then they take on the whole world in the President's Cup.

It makes for the biggest and best to take on the rest.

sax · Post: # 495982Post **sax** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 7:18am

You Vics are all the same, seriously!!!
The other teams didn't join the VFL, they joined the AFL, & if they didn't, the VFL would've gone broke!

Richter · Post: # 495983Post **Richter** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 7:30am

Er, because football was created in Victoria.

Of the players you name in your SA team only a few would be in the best 50 players in the AFL IMO.....

S. Fisher - maybe
C. Cornes - yes
S. Burgoyne - yes
P. Burgoyne - maybe
M. Pavlich - yes
W. Tredrea - yes
B. Ottens - yes
B. Lade - maybe
K. Cornes - yes

And that is being generous. SA would get absolutely creamed.

jack · Post: # 495998Post **jack** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 8:27am

sax wrote:Who gave Victoria the right to think they're the best footballing state anyway???

It has nothing to do with the Vics thinking they are the best footbal state. It has to do with the fact 48% of all players in the AFL come from Victoria, and 52% of all players come from the rest of Australia and overseas. Please give us a better sugestion of how a one off game can be played that includes all players in the AFL.

Mr Magic · Post: # 496004Post **Mr Magic** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 8:49am

sax wrote:You Vics are all the same, seriously!!!
The other teams didn't join the VFL, they joined the AFL, & if they didn't, the VFL would've gone broke!

Have you been listening to KG and Cornesy too much?

Seriously, contrary to the popular opinion floated over there, the world generally and football specifically doesn't have Adelaide at its epicentre.

The AFL is celebrating 150 years of football which officially started in Victoria.

buzfromgronggrong · Wed 28 Nov 2007 8:58am

sax wrote:You Vics are all the same, seriously!!!
The other teams didn't join the VFL, they joined the AFL, & if they didn't, the VFL would've gone broke!

Of course they would have gone broke - just as has the SANFL, WAFL, TFL etc etc

Bears joined the VFL

Sydney joined the VFL

West Coast joined the VFL

In any historical reference the current competeion is referred to as the VFL/AFL.

The other states still have the SANFL, WAFL etc - where is the VFL?

The interstate clubs joined a victorian based competetion - it's a fact!

Get over it Victoria is the major football market hence it being home of 10 of 16 clubs.

Stop whining and whinging it just demeans you.

PS: I am a South Australian!

saintspremiers · Wed 28 Nov 2007 9:17am

sax wrote:You Vics are all the same, seriously!!!
The other teams didn't join the VFL, they joined the AFL, & if they didn't, the VFL would've gone broke!

Who started the comp?

It was the VFL.

Did the VFL join the SANFL or WAFL??

No, they joined US.

Get a clue FFS.

Victoria rules and is the best state in Australia.

Saints43 · Post: # 496034Post **Saints43** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 9:49am

sax wrote:You Vics are all the same, seriously!!!
The other teams didn't join the VFL, they joined the AFL, & if they didn't, the VFL would've gone broke!

The first interstate teams did join the VFL. The VFL was renamed the AFL in 1990. A very dark year for football. Collingwood... Libba...

Thank you to all the interstate teams who chucked in 6 million dollars to get a share of Waverly Park and the right to make multi-million dollar profits in their monopolised marketplace. Victoria salutes you.

saint66au · Post: # 496045Post **saint66au** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 10:15am

I see now that the AFL have put a proviso in thqat allows them to ban plyers from the next H&A game if they dont front for this game.NOW we might see something closer to 2 good sides..wish we were playing Geelong the week after it though..as half their side will be involved!!

As for you interstaters getting a bit precious...well..its like this

1. The game has to be at the MCG (Origins of footy..check Wikipedia)

2. Victoria therefore have to play, or your crowd is halved straight away. Noone will go to "Dreamteam A vs Dreamteam B"

3. We can only have one game...but you want the most amount of players to be eligible. This is the best fit scenario

sax....lets hear you alternative plan eh instead of getting so defensive about poor lil ol SA eh?

ttufc7 · Post: # 496178Post **ttufc7** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 4:16pm

OK lets have a Vic vs SA game.....The SA team selections can be at the mercy of how many players Port and the Crows will allow to participate.....Should be a real competitive and entertaining game

bozza1980 · Post: # 496187Post **bozza1980** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 4:47pm

I think it's a great idea.

48% of players in the AFL come from Victoria, 52% from outside.

Victoria think they are better than everybody else, and everybody else loves to kick a Vic.

How about the interstaters get behind their best chance of seeing the Big V humbled.

It'll be a pretty handy match up....

bozza1980 · Post: # 496190Post **bozza1980** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 4:53pm

oops, I doubled up

st_Trav_ofWA · Wed 28 Nov 2007 5:02pm

i gotta agree in part with sax but i cant see any other way of doing it would SA sit aside while WA play the vics next year in the one off game ??? hell no they wouldnt so would WA sit aside heck no then the nsw wouldnt be able to feild a team Qld would be struggleing and tassie would struggle the NT would be a bit too short to be competitive . so we cant do it state by state

it sucks cause the "dream" team will not have any link to their jumper no history ect ect but heck the AFL has that with Freo

sax · Post: # 496202Post **sax** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 5:05pm

I only put this post up coz I like "fishing"! Looks like I got a catch!
To be honest, I'd rather see Vic vs SA, more passion, more history!!!
But I'd probably follow Vic anyway (More Saints, less Crows)!
I just hope it's a good game & players make themselves available!
And as for an earlier poster asking if I'm Graham Cornes, please don't insult me, I'm still a Saints fan & I can't stand the prick!!!!
A few of you guys really need to lighten up.
I didn't get abusive to anyone! (except Graham Cornes)

GrumpyOne · Post: # 496204Post **GrumpyOne** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 5:11pm

Poor knee-jerk response to an historical milestone by people without the balls to organise a State of Origin comp.

Can't wait to see the 50 top footballers in the country playing tiggy-tag excuse-me-mate football.

They'll be so scared about getting injured that there will be 36 fringe-pack-dancers on the field at any time.

The game Sheeds been waiting for..... don't make me laugh.

midas_touch · Wed 28 Nov 2007 5:22pm

I think the problem here is guys like Graham Cornes aren't aware of the fact that this is not a State of Origin game. Whilst Victoria is being represented in the game, it is only logical since this is where footy originated. The AFL simply wants to commemorate 150 years of football with (ideally) a match which has the best players in the competition playing against one another. That therefore leaves the second side to be made up of the best players from the rest of the country. Whilst their jumper will have no historical significance, it isn't a state of origin game so this is a non issue. The new rule imposed by the AFL will make things interesting, but I have a feeling that players and clubs will pull out all sorts of tricks if they dont want to risk injury in this match.

F_Q_F · Post: # 496217Post **F_Q_F** » Wed 28 Nov 2007 5:26pm

I don't care about who are in the teams or what the result of the game will be but I just think its a joke that the AFL thinks that Victoria are the only state worthy of representation.
It should be more about giving players the opportunity to play for their state, considering it is now the AUSTRALIAN Football League, not the Victorian Football League anymore.

(For what its worth anyway i think that WA would give the Vics a run for their money anyway)

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