Saints Greatest Flops....

saintsRrising · Mon 26 Nov 2007 5:32pm

Well with Watts and Brooks now departed...not just from the Saints but from AFL footy as a whole it begs the question...

Who have been the Saints biggest flops from players secured from other AFL/VFL clubs????

Obviously they are two prime candidates..

Some others that come to mind:

David Winbanks.....shudder terrible skills and I can still not fathom why Ian Stewart thought he could play..

Michael Jez...did not play a game after coming from the Blues...not even a reserves or practice match..!!!!

Frost.... from the Dogs to waste an early draft pick in a move that caused stunned disbelief at the draft!!!!

Unfortunately I predict that forumites will be able to list many more blunders...

riccardo · Post: # 495340Post **riccardo** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 5:34pm

Brooks comes screaming to mind, as does Alan Murray.

Port had a good laugh at us over those 2.

Guerra survives 'cause he had a good first year, but is repeating his pattern at Dawks of firing at first then getting fat and lazy (only difference being he isn't bald anymore - not that its an improvement)

st_Trav_ofWA · Mon 26 Nov 2007 5:35pm

most of the timid team !!! delany, gavin mitchel ,monkhusrt

saintspremiers · Mon 26 Nov 2007 5:37pm

Rene Kinky??

The Craw · Post: # 495345Post **The Craw** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 5:38pm

Strooper.

mad saint guy · Mon 26 Nov 2007 5:50pm

riccardo wrote:Brooks comes screaming to mind, as does Alan Murray.

Port had a good laugh at us over those 2.

Murray didn't cost us anything. He was a rookie and did play a few good games in 2003. Was probably our best rookie pick from 2001-2006.

busso mick · Post: # 495361Post **busso mick** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 5:54pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:most of the timid team !!! delany, gavin mitchel ,monkhusrt

I think that Timid was also responsible for selecting Beetham.

midas_touch · Mon 26 Nov 2007 6:03pm

Tim Eliott was pretty ordinary too

The Peanut · Post: # 495365Post **The Peanut** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 6:05pm

... or is it a case of St Kilda letting drafted individual players down by not properly monitoring and developing them in the past?

Considering the people that have been put into place at the club in the past 12 months and our current attitude towards player development (especially rookies) it makes me think of what could have been.

... but I guess I am thinking of the youngsters rather than some of the wonky more mature aged players we have picked up in the past.

stinger · Post: # 495368Post **stinger** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 6:19pm

midas_touch wrote:Tim Eliott was pretty ordinary too

i thought the topic was flops we drafted from other afl/vfl clubs.....

Otiman · Post: # 495372Post **Otiman** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 6:27pm

Recent ones..

McGough
Ackland
Knobel
Brooks
Watts
(Note all over 195cm except McGough)

Offset by some recent crackers...

Gehrig
Gram

HarveysDeciple · Mon 26 Nov 2007 6:59pm

saintsRrising wrote:

Frost.... from the Dogs to waste an early draft pick in a move that caused stunned disbelief at the draft!!!!

..

And remarkably we also overlooked Fraser Gehrig in that years draft in favour of this nuffy.

TimeToShineFellas · Mon 26 Nov 2007 7:49pm

Brian Wilson, Michael Ford, Fred Campbell

See most of the late 80s/ early 90s!

Sobraz · Post: # 495405Post **Sobraz** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 7:51pm

Sean Charles from Melb to St.Kilda...

Not sure if that was the Watson timeframe, but in those surrounding years, players of the calibre of Monkhurst, Francis, Delany, Charles (as mentioned), Gale, and Powell (from richmond) are all as bad as it gets...

I absolutely HATED dean anderson as well, from hawthorn... and why we ever ever ever got jason daniels back from the swans is beyond me...

plugger66 · Post: # 495407Post **plugger66** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 7:53pm

In order and counting the position taken I think

Name number

Sims

bobmurray · Post: # 495409Post **bobmurray** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 7:58pm

Jody Arnol....

Wasn't really up to the standard....never heard anything about him after he went.....

Eastern · Post: # 495410Post **Eastern** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 7:59pm

What about Bingham?. From Hawthorn !!

plugger66 · Post: # 495411Post **plugger66** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 7:59pm

In order and including the position taken which is most important.

Name Position Games
Sims 2 0
Quirk 5 0
Arnol 3 13
Malone 12 0
Atkinson 16 2
Frost 8 4
Healy 6 38
Walton 16 22
Beetham 9 20?

Everyone of these players was our first pick in the draft. We were shocking early in the draft. Other clubs werent great but we were terrible.

TimeToShineFellas · Mon 26 Nov 2007 8:00pm

Eastern wrote:What about Bingham?. From Hawthorn !!

and don't forget Ian Aitken and Darren Flanigan too!

saint66au · Post: # 495417Post **saint66au** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 8:11pm

I reckon the Bill Barrott for Ian Stewart swap would beat anything so far

sax · Post: # 495458Post **sax** » Mon 26 Nov 2007 9:34pm

Brodie Atkinson????

Joffa Burns · Mon 26 Nov 2007 9:41pm

Stewrat for barrott - can't top that

Next worst Tony King and Mark Scott for Russell Greene

saintspremiers · Mon 26 Nov 2007 9:43pm

plugger66 wrote:In order and including the position taken which is most important.

Name Position Games
Sims 2 0
Quirk 5 0
Arnol 3 13
Malone 12 0
Atkinson 16 2
Frost 8 4
Healy 6 38
Walton 16 22
Beetham 9 20?

Everyone of these players was our first pick in the draft. We were shocking early in the draft. Other clubs werent great but we were terrible.

yep spot on, and that's why I created the thread about Top Ten picks having to perform......I guess with a shocking track record (especially recently - Ball, BJ, Dal, Kosi and Roo big exceptions of course - but they were Top 3 picks, except Dal), I'm a bit impatient re the draft, and want to see us get some value early.

super dooper · Mon 26 Nov 2007 9:56pm

Ummm Justin Plapp anyone???

i shudder at the thought of him playing football in the red white and black!!!!

johnpeterbudgefanclub · Mon 26 Nov 2007 9:56pm

Did u guys have Ian Muller? And the one from Hawthorn was Lawrence Bingham.

Don't worry Collingwood have had plenty too! We have come up with about 5 teams of hacks/draft woes et al from the early 80's.

Everyone's had them......

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