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Teflon wrote:This has me intrigued....he was struggling emotionally by playing on..the desire wasnt there...the game had gone past 1 dimensional players etc etc..........3 mths later he wants back in?
I smell a Lyon in the background here.......I also have concerns over M Gardiner here....and a requirement for a King/Kosi ruck combo in 2008...
hmmm....anyone seen Gardiner sprinting of late?
I understood he was retiring so that he could go and live with his girlfriend in Switzerland/Italy?
Maybe the relationship has broken up?
His sister apparently also quit her legal career to go live in london with her boyfriend.
This is awesome news. If we can get him with a 3rd or 4th rounder then im rapped ! He still has plenty of goals left in him, plus i love the blokes demeanour. Obviously he has found the passion to play again, which should mean he will be more effective then last season where he struggled for motivation.
Ps - Is it just me or can anybody hear the sound of Dimwit desperately trying to come up with an excuse to screw the saints over on this one (again)
Great news....I'm confident he'll tell any other club interested in him he's only committed to St.Kilda, and we should get him with our 4th round pick.
Anyone who thinks we should use pick 9 for him seriously needs to understand the drafting process........sure, not all Top 10 picks end up being useful AFL players, but a very high proportion do, and Frase has only 1 perhaps 2 years left in him.
I always thought he left the game too early, plus the money factor would be very handy for him for any other big OS trips in the future!
we would be silly to do it for 3 year, he is capable of 3 years if he puts his mind to it, but he is a 31 year old man who may have only 1 year and would be silly to give him anymore than 1 year. Didnt he still have one more year left with us anyway?
Really thought that Clayton Collard would be a great option for our last round pick but now that the G train is back I guess we know what our last selection will be...and quite happy with that
SaintBot wrote:i believe he has been in switzerland with his girlfriend. who knows...he might have become fitter
I think I have worked it out
He has been in high altitude training in the Swiss Alps and getting injected with calves blood serum in an exclusive sports clinic.
Its all been an elaborate ruse, & a very cunning plan
Welcome back the Gehrignator II
coming to a Dome near you
Trick will be to not waste too high a pick on him.
But not wait too long to grab him in case we get a "West Coast - Watson" situation.
Back in 1992 (or 91?) Watson had retired, but many felt he had gone too early.
So the Eagles picked him up with a really late pick in the draft just "in case they could talk him around".
The didn't but at such a high pick it was worth the risk.
Of course he famously did comeback in 93 to Essendon and played in their tainted Premiership.
Our risk is that if we leave it till too late to claim Frase, then another team will figure that with their last pick at 60 odd, why not take a risk on Gehrig and try to talk him into it.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
The G train is a champion talent who can look the butthole of the game right in the face. He will grab that hole and tear it wide open leaving a bloody mess.
Now there is some argument he may be finished. He was still perfectly capable this year. He needed more aggressive attack into the forwardline.
HE SHOULD NOT BE TARGET NUMBER 1. If we can have an aggressive 18 man attack into the forwardline like Geelong, Gherig becomes one of a hundred options. Icing on the cake, cherry on the top.
He is enigmatic and will entertain. The game needs more guys like this and less arrogant fuckwits like Money Whore Judd.
Very good news, shows Lyon believes we are peaking in the next couple of years. This may mean giving Riewoldt time in the midfield, allowing Kosi to play CHF while the big G gives Allen a little on the job training, much like the Westhoff / Tredrea combination.
Teflon wrote:I smell a Lyon in the background here.......I also have concerns over M Gardiner here....and a requirement for a King/Kosi ruck combo in 2008?
hope not.
anyway, it appears that the approach came from fraser, not from us.
imo kosi at ff is key to our chances in 2008, but fraser would be a handy foil for him
|Andy| wrote:however the other teams wouldnt want us with gehrig, so it may be a good price for them to get him to retire by picking him...:S
saints without fraser is not worth the 50k + to draft him
other teams arent really that concerned with frase anyway if you cut off his supply hes a dead weight in the forward line
Cut off his supply hes dead weight wouldnt that be the same for any forward? Hes kicked what close to 300 goals in four years and your doubting his value.
|Andy| wrote:however the other teams wouldnt want us with gehrig, so it may be a good price for them to get him to retire by picking him...:S
saints without fraser is not worth the 50k + to draft him
other teams arent really that concerned with frase anyway if you cut off his supply hes a dead weight in the forward line
Cut off his supply hes dead weight wouldnt that be the same for any forward? Hes kicked what close to 300 goals in four years and your doubting his value.
not doubting his value just teams are not worried about Gtrains impact they are more Roo conciouse then Frase
and as for dead weight as frase said himself the time of the one possition player is fast fading so if the supply is cut off from frase hes not going to go run up the wing to get the ball hence him being a dead weight , when he has supply hes fantastic but hes not going to go get his own ball he needs our midfeild to deliver to him .
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